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Post by leftycrusher9 on Apr 7, 2018 6:54:25 GMT -5
As I am eagerly awaiting the reboot and release of the XMC-1 I do not have a dedicated processor in my current system. I am watching movies source direct and running audio out of my 7.1 digital outs on my Oppo UDP-203. It doesn’t sound bad at all but I was wondering would I expect a huge improvement in sound, imaging, and video quality once I hook up an XMC-1? The anticipation is killing me so any little taste of what to be expected would be awesome
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Post by klinemj on Apr 7, 2018 7:10:36 GMT -5
The XMC-1 sound quality is one of its greatest assets and what sets it apart from many other options. I've not heard the 203, but one thing the XMC-1 has that the Oppo does not is Dirac Room corrections - which many find makes an improvement in sound quality.
One thing you should not expect is an improvement in video quality. The XMC-1 simply has an HDMI switch. As such, it does not video processing.
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Post by leftycrusher9 on Apr 7, 2018 7:14:37 GMT -5
The XMC-1 sound quality is one of its greatest assets and what sets it apart from many other options. I've not heard the 203, but one thing the XMC-1 has that the Oppo does not is Dirac Room corrections - which many find makes an improvement in sound quality. One thing you should not expect is an improvement in video quality. The XMC-1 simply has an HDMI switch. As such, it does not video processing. Mark Geez, I wasn’t thinking. Forgot about video going unprocessed, thanks Mark |
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Post by 405x5 on Apr 7, 2018 9:41:36 GMT -5
As I am eagerly awaiting the reboot and release of the XMC-1 I do not have a dedicated processor in my current system. I am watching movies source direct and running audio out of my 7.1 digital outs on my Oppo UDP-203. It doesn’t sound bad at all but I was wondering would I expect a huge improvement in sound, imaging, and video quality once I hook up an XMC-1? The anticipation is killing me so any little taste of what to be expected would be awesome Perfectly clean, clear and accurate is what you get. This unit adds no sound of it’s own to the mix. With great source material, it’s like being there (so good) If the recording is bad it will sound that way too. It’s the quietest processor I’ve ever heard. With the volume way up and the music stops, it’s as if the thing shut itself off. You’re also benefiting from a few years of firmware tweaks. As with anything this new, some minor quirks and OSD rendering have been improved upon. Bill |
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Post by skippy1977 on Apr 13, 2018 12:07:21 GMT -5
I've had the XMC-1 for quite awhile and couldn't be happier. I have no urge to upgrade unless the next gen XMC-1 has Dirac Unison. I'm hoping there will be Dirac Unison upgrade for existing XMC-1 owners. I also find the XMC-1 to be dead quiet when using XLR connections to four Wyred 4 Sound amps. No hiss and no hum with the volume cranked with no music playing. Using Dirac for multichannel music is a huge benefit of the XMC-1.
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Post by RichGuy on Apr 13, 2018 22:30:55 GMT -5
The XMC-1 simply has an HDMI switch. As such, it does not video processing. Mark This is something I consider a plus. I usually don't care for all the video processing that is often done and typically find the less the better. Have a good source and then leave it alone. |
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Post by leftycrusher9 on Apr 14, 2018 7:36:13 GMT -5
But since I am now running audio out of the 7.1 outs on the oppo, do you think I will see a “night and day” difference in quality of detail, punch, presence, etc once I add the XMC-1? Not sure the difference between the DACs in the two or if anyone has done a A to B comparison but like I said, it sounds good now. I could be comparing apples to oranges here. Thanks for all of your responses.
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Post by routlaw on Apr 14, 2018 11:13:51 GMT -5
I will concur with the other comments but cannot answer your question as its put.
However I did what you propose with my Oppo 103 for quite a period of time before stepping up to the plate and purchasing the XMC-1. The difference between those two is night and day, not to mention the added versatility and capability of the XMC-1. Its not that the Oppo 103 with analog outs for multi channel sounded bad, it was just noticeably better with the XMC-1. Thats the good news.
Here is where it gets more complicated and unknown. I just received my Oppo 203 on Thursday afternoon and had brief listen that evening in stereo analog outs into the XMC-1 playing CD and one Blu Ray Audio. I can tell you with no reservations not only does the 203 sound and perform much different than the 103 in this vain but to me was demonstrably better. Now how this would translate into being better sounding than the XMC-1 using all 7 analog channels and bypassing a pre-pro is unknown. Suffice it to say though I found the AKM DAC chips to perform very well initially.
As others have stated, video would not change at all.
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Post by rbk123 on Apr 14, 2018 15:45:08 GMT -5
But since I am now running audio out of the 7.1 outs on the oppo, do you think I will see a “night and day” difference in quality of detail, punch, presence, etc once I add the XMC-1? Not for movies - they'll probably be too close to call, with an edge to the XMC. For 2 channel listening, the XMC should be an improvement, but not night and day. That's without Dirac. Dirac is your wild card as some have claimed huge audiophile gains and others have claimed small/subtle gains. When the new Atmos board, or the XMC-2, comes out, movies on DTS-HD/Tru HD should be an improvement due to newer/better chips (but again, not 'night and day'). However adding Atmos will then make it an apple/oranges comparison. |
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Post by Casey Leedom on Apr 14, 2018 18:13:58 GMT -5
Hhmmm, will either of the new boards coming out for the XMC-1G2 replace the DACs? I wouldn't think so. And I'm guessing that the DACs on the XMC-1G3 will be different. Probably at least for the front three channels (Left/Center/Right) since those will be fully balanced on the XMC-1G3. Perhaps even the same AK4490EN DACs being used in the RMC-1.
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Post by Loop 7 on Apr 14, 2018 18:27:10 GMT -5
I'm still using a UMC-200 and won't be moving to 4K for quite a while but I am very curious if the XMC-1 would offer another level of sound quality. It would have to be substantial for me to spend the money.
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Post by foggy1956 on Apr 14, 2018 18:50:09 GMT -5
I'm still using a UMC-200 and won't be moving to 4K for quite a while but I am very curious if the XMC-1 would offer another level of sound quality. It would have to be substantial for me to spend the money. I had the umc-200 prior to my xmc-1, in my system I felt the improvement was substantial! |
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Post by klinemj on Apr 14, 2018 20:39:26 GMT -5
Hhmmm, will either of the new boards coming out for the XMC-1G2 replace the DACs? I wouldn't think so. And I'm guessing that the DACs on the XMC-1G3 will be different. Probably at least for the front three channels (Left/Center/Right) since those will be fully balanced on the XMC-1G3. Perhaps even the same AK4490EN DACs being used in the RMC-1. Casey Maybe I am being dense here, but...it would seem clear the HDMI board upgrade won't impact the DAC's. It's just an HDMI switch, so changing it would not affect DAC's...right? As for the Atmos board, if I understand correctly, that replaces the main processing board which includes all DAC's. So, along with the board change, the chips will at least be replaced if not updated. To what? I don't know. Mark |
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Post by jdmusante on Apr 14, 2018 20:41:50 GMT -5
I'm still using a UMC-200 and won't be moving to 4K for quite a while but I am very curious if the XMC-1 would offer another level of sound quality. It would have to be substantial for me to spend the money. I had the umc-200 prior to my xmc-1, in my system I felt the improvement was substantial! +1. The XMC-1 sound quality is considerably better than UMC-200. |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 14, 2018 21:13:36 GMT -5
One time offer!
Will trade a UMC-200 even up for a XMC-1 ! This is a great deal,,,,,,,,somebody needs to take me up on it! 👍
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Post by enricoclaudio on Apr 14, 2018 21:39:31 GMT -5
The XMC-1 Gen 2 is back in stock and comes with V3 HDMI board installed.  |
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Post by RichGuy on Apr 14, 2018 21:50:01 GMT -5
One time offer! Will trade a UMC-200 even up for a XMC-1 ! This is a great deal,,,,,,,,somebody needs to take me up on it! 👍 WOW, bargain!  |
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Post by novisnick on Apr 14, 2018 22:01:37 GMT -5
One time offer! Will trade a UMC-200 even up for a XMC-1 ! This is a great deal,,,,,,,,somebody needs to take me up on it! 👍 WOW, bargain! I know, Right? |
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Post by edrummereasye on Apr 14, 2018 22:15:08 GMT -5
I'm still using a UMC-200 and won't be moving to 4K for quite a while but I am very curious if the XMC-1 would offer another level of sound quality. It would have to be substantial for me to spend the money. I concur with everyone else; I thought the UMC-200 was good... but the XMC-1 was a substantial upgrade in sound quality. And by that I mean, out of the box, even without Dirac. I actually moved my XSP-1 and XDA-2 to another room, along with the UMC-200, as I felt they offered little to no improvement over the XMC-1. Though in the case of the XSP, I don't use analog sources in the main system as much as I do in the basement system, or as much as I used to, for that matter, so that served as additional incentive to simplify the living room, and make a big improvement to the basement system at the same time. Occasionally if I'm actually spinning a physical CD, I will use the balanced outs of the Oppo 95, and once in a while I will use the analog outs of the Xonar D2X in my HTPC. Mostly just to switch things up, I don't have a strong preference among the DACs for most material. |
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Post by suffolk112000 on Apr 14, 2018 22:16:43 GMT -5
Well, I guess I'm waiting till May 1st before ordering then...!
I'll just keep saving until the time is right. 😀
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