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Post by SticknStones on Aug 23, 2019 17:02:07 GMT -5
Yeah, you’re going to want to read the last few months of this thread. Don’t do it Reggie, just get an XMC-2 and be done with it!!!  I just got off the phone with Grayson and that's what he recommended as I have not purchased the board $425, + shipping renders the XMC-2 new money would be roughly $600 and that seems worthwhile. My warranty lapsed in June as well. Thanks for the update guys! |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Aug 23, 2019 18:44:44 GMT -5
If you want to save yourself a lot of headaches, buy Certified cables or if you have long runs, fiber hybrid cables. I use Monoprice thin certified cables for interconnects and Ruipro fiber to the LG 77C9. - Rich I must say that I had my doubts about these Monoprice "Thin" Certified Premium cables, but they work...!!! If you want a thin cable shorter than the 6' recommended length (for thicker cable), then these come highly recommended by me...!!! I'm now using the 3' and 4' lengths from every source and they work splendidly... Agreed, they’re all I’ve used with the V3 board. I like that they’re thin and easy to route, that they come in 1’ increments, that they’re black — and of course that they work. I have 8’ and 4’, and they’ve always passed all the ATV4K tests. They’re not as pretty as those thick Emo cables, but I don’t want to have that much bulk to manage. |
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Post by bolle on Sept 7, 2019 2:18:28 GMT -5
Will there be another firmware for the XMC-1, based on the improvements from the last 1.5 firmware for the RMC-1? Also will the "flickering" of the OSD as described several times by me, ever be fixed? Any feedback from Emotiva would be nice - or will the XMC-1 now be dropped like a hot potatoe regarding support since the XMC-2 and RMC-1 are out? |
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Post by cawgijoe on Sept 7, 2019 6:30:16 GMT -5
My thoughts are that Emotiva will continue to support the XMC-1 with any firmware updates that are possibly needed due to selling the trade in units beginning in October. I will be trading mine in as soon as they give me the word.
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Post by xyvyx on Sept 9, 2019 14:28:10 GMT -5
Did you (or anyone else) ever get the Vertex working downstream from the XMC-1? I'm considering picking up a Vertex to put right before my JVC X790r to adjust gamma curves based on content from ALL sources. No splitting or stripping, just automating gamma curve selection. Thanks! Sorry thrillcat , didn't see your question until just now. (pretty certain there wasn't any kind of notification until recently either...) Nope, I gave up before, but it might be worth a shot w/ the latest firmware. I can't remember exactly which XMC & Vertex versions I was using in ~ mid-July, but it's very possible it behaves better today. I've also got one of those No-Hassle AV HDMI switches in the middle, but it hasn't been very reliable either. (at least when using the HDMI over HDbaseT, works better via my Ruipro fiber cables) So my "simple" goal of one 4k source going to multiple TVs of different capability has been on hold for quite a while. And maybe it'll work better through an XMC-2 !! Hopefully it doesn't take toooo long to get one. |
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Post by thrillcat on Sept 9, 2019 22:34:11 GMT -5
Did you (or anyone else) ever get the Vertex working downstream from the XMC-1? I'm considering picking up a Vertex to put right before my JVC X790r to adjust gamma curves based on content from ALL sources. No splitting or stripping, just automating gamma curve selection. Thanks! Sorry thrillcat , didn't see your question until just now. (pretty certain there wasn't any kind of notification until recently either...) Nope, I gave up before, but it might be worth a shot w/ the latest firmware. I can't remember exactly which XMC & Vertex versions I was using in ~ mid-July, but it's very possible it behaves better today. I've also got one of those No-Hassle AV HDMI switches in the middle, but it hasn't been very reliable either. (at least when using the HDMI over HDbaseT, works better via my Ruipro fiber cables) So my "simple" goal of one 4k source going to multiple TVs of different capability has been on hold for quite a while. And maybe it'll work better through an XMC-2 !! Hopefully it doesn't take toooo long to get one. Are you able to see if the display is receiving the metadata from a UHD disc when routed through the Vertex? I only need a single display, I just want to use it to trigger tone mapping / gamma preset changes in the JVC based on the data provided from the disc. |
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Post by bolle on Sept 23, 2019 1:10:34 GMT -5
I had a 5.4 beta for a while which worked quite ok but had problems with input switching. After updating to 5.8 a week ago I now twice had the situation that the picture and handshake went away while watching something and I had to switch inputs back and forth to get a picture again.
Both times that happended while using the Fire TV pendant. I can´t change that cable and the other ohne is a UGreen hybrid fiber cable to my projector.
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Post by bolle on Sept 27, 2019 1:36:23 GMT -5
5.8 is definitely worse than the 5.4 beta I had before. I now also had the situation 3 times this week, that I had no picture after turning everything on and had to switch inputs to have it working. My wife now again refuses to use the system... Thank you Emotiva.  |
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Post by brado on Sept 27, 2019 7:39:52 GMT -5
I had a 5.4 beta for a while which worked quite ok but had problems with input switching. After updating to 5.8 a week ago I now twice had the situation that the picture and handshake went away while watching something and I had to switch inputs back and forth to get a picture again. Both times that happended while using the Fire TV pendant. I can´t change that cable and the other ohne is a UGreen hybrid fiber cable to my projector. FWIW, Mine has never worked properly on initial startup if in video standby mode. I always have to switch inputs to reset and then back. Not the end of the world but it is annoying. If I use the power save mode, where it reboots on every powerup, it behaves much better. But, it takes a bout a year to start up, so I live with having to switch inputs. I'm on the list for a trade up to the XMC-2. Generally, I'm very happy with the XMC-1, video switching notwithstanding. I don't have any reason to believe the video board would be any different on the XMC-2, but hopefully the firmware will be better sorted. To be fair, it is likely that the XMC-1 and my projector's interaction isn't completely right, so part of the problem might be the projector (Optoma 4K). |
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Post by bolle on Sept 27, 2019 10:22:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip. Sadly I never ever used video standby mode, so that won´t help me in this regard.
My projector is quite similar, an Acer VL7860 (so also faux 4K DLP).
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Post by stratos on Oct 9, 2019 12:59:05 GMT -5
5.8 is definitely worse than the 5.4 beta I had before. I now also had the situation 3 times this week, that I had no picture after turning everything on and had to switch inputs to have it working. My wife now again refuses to use the system... Thank you Emotiva. For what it's worth, if you turn the source device on before the XMC the video switching process shouldn't be needed. The video switching issue has plagued my system ever since the v3 board upgrade and the girlfriend was extremely upset with things. I had her doing the switch input process which she was not happy about. Powering on source device first made a big difference and she's good now. Hopefully the same works for you. |
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Post by 127tmc on Oct 22, 2019 13:16:21 GMT -5
I have read the last 50 or so pages of this thread trying to figure out if I should purchase and install the 2.0b board and still haven't been able to answer the question. I don't want to exercise everyone and/or rehash all that folks have gone through and written, but would like some input to make a decision. My situation is:
- I have no interest in or need for the XMC-2 or bigger Emotiva processor as I have no plans to go larger than a 5.2 system and I use the 7 channel analog inputs to the XMC-1. The XMC-1 works fine for my needs, I like the way it sounds, and it works without issue for me. I have the unit with single HDMI 2.0 input / output.
- I want to watch 4K HDR/Dolby Vision content, currently on Samsung TV, with DirecTV receiver, BluRay player, AppleTV 4K
- I currently use ARC from my TV for streamed content and it works fine. I also have cabled an unused optical connection from TV to XMC if the ARC didn't work.
- I use all Blue Jeans / Belden FE high speed certified HDMI cablez but could change them for Monoprice or something else if necessary.
- I am an electrical engineer by trade, so installing the board is no issue for me, but perhaps there is value in sending it to Emotiva as they would "check it out" prior to sending it back.
- I suppose I am OK with occasionally having to switch inputs if there is an HDMI sync problem, but don't want to have to endlessly fiddle with the thing to watch TV.
So my question is, should I buy and install the upgrade board or just forget about it and try to find a way to cable everything to my TV instead of the XMC-1 Many of the issues I have read on this thread SEEM to be associated with choosing the "right" cable, but perhaps I'm wrong. No one ever posts to a forum if something works, so maybe the folks who have posted on this 158 page thread with problems are the minority of customers/users? No real way to know. So thanks in advance for any input you can provide and my apologies if I am wasting anyone's time.
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Post by ttocs on Oct 22, 2019 14:52:17 GMT -5
I have read the last 50 or so pages of this thread trying to figure out if I should purchase and install the 2.0b board and still haven't been able to answer the question. I don't want to exercise everyone and/or rehash all that folks have gone through and written, but would like some input to make a decision. My situation is:
- I have no interest in or need for the XMC-2 or bigger Emotiva processor as I have no plans to go larger than a 5.2 system and I use the 7 channel analog inputs to the XMC-1. The XMC-1 works fine for my needs, I like the way it sounds, and it works without issue for me. I have the unit with single HDMI 2.0 input / output.
- I want to watch 4K HDR/Dolby Vision content, currently on Samsung TV, with DirecTV receiver, BluRay player, AppleTV 4K
- I currently use ARC from my TV for streamed content and it works fine. I also have cabled an unused optical connection from TV to XMC if the ARC didn't work.
- I use all Blue Jeans / Belden FE high speed certified HDMI cablez but could change them for Monoprice or something else if necessary.
- I am an electrical engineer by trade, so installing the board is no issue for me, but perhaps there is value in sending it to Emotiva as they would "check it out" prior to sending it back.
- I suppose I am OK with occasionally having to switch inputs if there is an HDMI sync problem, but don't want to have to endlessly fiddle with the thing to watch TV.
So my question is, should I buy and install the upgrade board or just forget about it and try to find a way to cable everything to my TV instead of the XMC-1 Many of the issues I have read on this thread SEEM to be associated with choosing the "right" cable, but perhaps I'm wrong. No one ever posts to a forum if something works, so maybe the folks who have posted on this 158 page thread with problems are the minority of customers/users? No real way to know. So thanks in advance for any input you can provide and my apologies if I am wasting anyone's time.
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Post by Gary Cook on Oct 22, 2019 14:56:38 GMT -5
I have read the last 50 or so pages of this thread trying to figure out if I should purchase and install the 2.0b board and still haven't been able to answer the question. I don't want to exercise everyone and/or rehash all that folks have gone through and written, but would like some input to make a decision. My situation is: - I have no interest in or need for the XMC-2 or bigger Emotiva processor as I have no plans to go larger than a 5.2 system and I use the 7 channel analog inputs to the XMC-1. The XMC-1 works fine for my needs, I like the way it sounds, and it works without issue for me. I have the unit with single HDMI 2.0 input / output.
- I want to watch 4K HDR/Dolby Vision content, currently on Samsung TV, with DirecTV receiver, BluRay player, AppleTV 4K
- I currently use ARC from my TV for streamed content and it works fine. I also have cabled an unused optical connection from TV to XMC if the ARC didn't work.
- I use all Blue Jeans / Belden FE high speed certified HDMI cablez but could change them for Monoprice or something else if necessary.
- I am an electrical engineer by trade, so installing the board is no issue for me, but perhaps there is value in sending it to Emotiva as they would "check it out" prior to sending it back.
- I suppose I am OK with occasionally having to switch inputs if there is an HDMI sync problem, but don't want to have to endlessly fiddle with the thing to watch TV.
So my question is, should I buy and install the upgrade board or just forget about it and try to find a way to cable everything to my TV instead of the XMC-1 Many of the issues I have read on this thread SEEM to be associated with choosing the "right" cable, but perhaps I'm wrong. No one ever posts to a forum if something works, so maybe the folks who have posted on this 158 page thread with problems are the minority of customers/users? No real way to know. So thanks in advance for any input you can provide and my apologies if I am wasting anyone's time. Mine works perfectly and has from about day 3, the first 2 days were spent choosing the correct settings from the sources, there are lots of options, and getting the HDMI cabling right. Mostly reducing the lengths (total length) from source to TV. I don’t use CEC/ARC the (devil’s twins) they caused all sorts of problems, don’t need it as all streaming is done via the AppleTV4K. My Samsung TV doesn’t have Dolby Vision, do any of them? You are right there are lots of us who don’t have problems with our XMC-1 4K, most of whom simply don’t post. I do post and get picked on for posting that I don’t have any problems, it’s as if by posting that I don’t have any problems that I am somehow insulting the people that do. Which obviously is not why I post, I am simply trying to balance the natural negativity, posters are far more likely to complain than compliment on any subject. Cheers Gary |
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Post by geebo on Oct 22, 2019 16:04:15 GMT -5
Mine also works fine and I have no regrets in purchasing the V3 board. My system is fairly simple with two BD players and an XFinity DVR being the only sources that include video but they all pass HD without issue. The OSD is important to me and you don't get it if you bypass the XMC for the video portion.
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Post by ttocs on Oct 22, 2019 17:01:35 GMT -5
geebo has a very good point about passing the sources into the XMC-1 if only for having the OSD, in which case you'd need the V3 board.
Up until this past Saturday I didn't have a tv into which sources could be connected in a faux-K way (Epson projector with only 1 fake-4K input). Now I've got a panel (Sony XBR85X950G) with lots of inputs, but I still will connect into the XMC-1 because it's what I'm used to.
Since I spent so much on the new tv I'm now thinking of keeping the XMC-1/V3 instead of upgrading to the XMC-2, but, I have two fears. The first is - will the ATV4K PCM issue where 5.1 is shown as being 7.1 but the rear speakers are not on be fixed? And secondly, will the speed of switching inputs ever be improved? I can't think of any other issues.
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Post by thrillcat on Oct 22, 2019 18:36:20 GMT -5
I’m highly doubting the XMC-1 will see any updates in the future.
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Post by LCSeminole on Oct 22, 2019 19:30:02 GMT -5
I’m highly doubting the XMC-1 will see any updates in the future. I'm thinking there will be, but after the new RMC-1/RMC-1L/XMC-2 firmware is nailed down with DIRAC. Though your guess is as good as mine. |
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Post by 127tmc on Oct 22, 2019 22:19:07 GMT -5
Thanks for the info on the V3 board. All of my sources are connected via the XMC-1 so I would prefer to leave it that way. Currently I only have 4K DirecTV box so the base XMC-1 works fine. I am in process of replacing the Blu Ray player and Apple TV with 4K versions which will necessitate some change; likely to the V3 board. I was streaming via my TV prior to inclusion of the Apple TV, so as suggested by Gary Cook, I could use it for all streaming inputs and eliminate the requirement for ARC/CEC. Thanks again and if anyone else has advice I'm happy to get it.
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Post by Gary Cook on Oct 23, 2019 1:05:06 GMT -5
Thanks for the info on the V3 board. All of my sources are connected via the XMC-1 so I would prefer to leave it that way. Currently I only have 4K DirecTV box so the base XMC-1 works fine. I am in process of replacing the Blu Ray player and Apple TV with 4K versions which will necessitate some change; likely to the V3 board. I was streaming via my TV prior to inclusion of the Apple TV, so as suggested by Gary Cook, I could use it for all streaming inputs and eliminate the requirement for ARC/CEC. Thanks again and if anyone else has advice I'm happy to get it. I pretty much pass this on to anyone who asks, my suggestion is always to start with the simplest source (commonly the BD player), just connect it, nothing else, no ARC or CEC, and get it working perfectly first (yes, you might have to change some settings). Then move on to the next source. Don't start with a HTPC, they are commonly the most difficult and it's so easy to believe that there is something wrong with the new shiny Emotiva piece of hardware when it's one or more of the hundreds of settings & software possibilities. To avoid that doubt and fear, get it working perfectly with something easy first. Next, don't for 1 second believe that just because a HDMI cable works when its connected direct from the source to the TV that it will work going from the processor to the TV. There are 2 more connections plus another cable and cable length is cumulative because (unlike mass market AVR's) Emotiva processors just pass video straight through, untouched. Again, just because the HDMI cables work with an AVR/Processor that has video processing does not mean that they should work with a processor that doesn't. Personally I find setting up a processor is best done without an audience, getting it working, take the time to explain the differences to the previous gear and then show it off. Subtle training improves the WAF. Cheers Gary |
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