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Post by tsalter9 on Jun 19, 2009 17:39:54 GMT -5
i have to agree with several people here , i have f3's as left and right and an rf3 for a center , so i have 6 8in.' woofers coming straight at you , i do admit that they sometimes lack a little in the midrange bgut as far as everything other than that they rock, i am sure at emofest i will drool all over the 8.3's but financially i will stick with these , unless someone will give me some k horns , that would be sweet...lol
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Post by Animo on Jun 19, 2009 20:49:05 GMT -5
For anyone really interested, there is one pair of 8.3's on the Emporium, being offered at a really great price. They are only 3 months old, and kept in meticulous care.
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Post by lwt-bo on Jun 20, 2009 8:59:36 GMT -5
For anyone really interested, there is one pair of 8.3's on the Emporium, being offered at a really great price. They are only 3 months old, and kept in meticulous care. I strongly considered it, given the price, but I think I want to have the ability to return them for a full refund if they end up not being a few marks better then some used RF-7s, which will be quite a bit cheaper.
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Post by knucklehead on Jun 23, 2009 22:46:55 GMT -5
I looked at and read reviews of many new and used speakers before I settled on the 8.3s. If I had to ship them back I was prepared to do so. It would have cost me over $100 to do so. Cheap compared to something you might buy from a dealer - and there aren't any near me - that you can't take back. Cheaper than living with something you don't like. ;D
I came close to ordering the Axiom M80s, had them in the shopping cart 2 or 3 times. Same with the AV123 850 Rockets, those are beautiful speakers. But looks aren't everything. I'm quite sure I'd have kept either had I followed through. My experience with the UPA-7 convinced me to give the 8.3s a try. The rest - as they say - is history.
Too many of them have that policy - all sales final. Bad policy in my book. But how else can you audition something in your own home when the dealer does not allow that?
Anyway, I've heard and owned more than my share of speakers over the years. Klipsch, Polk, Boston Acoustics, AR, etc etc. What you'd have found in Magnolia HiFi back then.
I haven't auditioned speakers in earnest in about 9-10 years, since buying 4 Infinity speakers. What I liked about them is the same thing I like about the 8.3s, the mids and highs are smooth. I used to play music, and frequented jazz - rock - and country bars in my (mis-spent) youth. I remember how those jazz and piano bars in Pioneer Square in Seattle sounded. I use that as my rule of thumb for sound. Based on that and a set amount of what I was willing to spend I went speaker hunting and ended up with the IL50s and IL40s. I still have the IL40s - they are on ebay now, but I'll keep them unless I get a certain offer amount. Some things are simply worth more than what someone is willing to give you. This may be the case.
Anyway, before I ended up with the Infinity speakers, I listened to many speakers - some up to the 5,000$ limit I imposed on the sales person. Some of the speakers sounded better than the Infinitys, but they all cost more or I would have bought them. Some costing twice as much sounded like they should have cost half the price of the Infinitys.
When I got the 8.3s in my home and set up, I could not believe the clarity of them - all the way from the low bass right up to the highs. Piano notes were sharp and defined - a strain on all but the best speakers. The full range of sound was there, no one part dominated! The IL40s are good with piano notes - the 8.3s are near perfect. Diana Krall really puts a smile on my face every time I spin up one of her CDs.
I don't work for Emotiva, so I'm not trying to sell anything to anyone - just relating experiences in speaker shopping. The 8.3s - with the price tag they have sound too good to be true. Well, you'll just have to decide whether the shipping costs to return them justifies the price of finding out if they are for you or not. There are better speakers out there, I'm just not willing to pay for them.
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Post by maximumkahuna on Jun 26, 2009 15:48:48 GMT -5
What is your movie/music ratio? You really need to find someone to let you audition the ERT's if at all possible. Klipsch's will be great for HT but even the RF-7's might come up short if you listen to a lot of music. Resale for RF-7's should be pretty good if you find them too bright. Horns are not for everybody.
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Post by lwt-bo on Jul 1, 2009 5:18:26 GMT -5
Finally found some reasonably priced RF-7s with the upgraded DeanG crossover for sale. Just waiting on delivery, even though I won't get to see them for another months or so.
Now I just need to figure out what amp to get. The XPA-5 seems like a popular choice for these speakers. It seems like the RPA amps would be perfect given their very low noise floor and the high efficiently of the RF-7s.
But with that XPA-1 sale going on...that's a tempting pair even if it's not needed. Any downfall to this option?
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Post by flamingeye on Jul 1, 2009 9:00:46 GMT -5
Nothing that I can think of unless to much headroom is a problem for you j/k, the only other thing I can think of is like all speakers placement is very important and with klipsch placement will dictate how bright they sound ,that and room treatments , klipsch speakers are very revealing/accurate and people misinterpret the brightness as part of the speaker which in fact it`s most likely the room and or placement so experiment with placement
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Post by lwt-bo on Jul 2, 2009 6:05:38 GMT -5
Right...too much headroom..pff.
I guess I only have two concerns.
1) Would I ever notice the difference between dual XPA-1s vs an XPA-5? If the only noticable difference is when I got it cranked at full throttle or close to it, then it's probably not a good choice. However if someone can convince me otherwise, I'm all ears. 2) I have to work it out between, me, myself and I to justify the extra cost even though it's a fine price. See the ears comment above. Basically I'm looking for someone to tell me this is the only logical decision and I'd be a fool to do otherwise and here's why...
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Post by ugn on Oct 21, 2009 14:34:59 GMT -5
Finally found some reasonably priced RF-7s with the upgraded DeanG crossover for sale. Just waiting on delivery, even though I won't get to see them for another months or so. Now I just need to figure out what amp to get. The XPA-5 seems like a popular choice for these speakers. It seems like the RPA amps would be perfect given their very low noise floor and the high efficiently of the RF-7s. But with that XPA-1 sale going on...that's a tempting pair even if it's not needed. Any downfall to this option? Any updates here? Have you tried RF-7 vs. ERT 8.3? I have ordered a set of Klipsch RF 8.3 but are thinking now on ERT 8.3 instead, since my dealer can't get a hold on enough pairs..
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Post by lwt-bo on Oct 21, 2009 19:23:08 GMT -5
Finally found some reasonably priced RF-7s with the upgraded DeanG crossover for sale. Just waiting on delivery, even though I won't get to see them for another months or so. Now I just need to figure out what amp to get. The XPA-5 seems like a popular choice for these speakers. It seems like the RPA amps would be perfect given their very low noise floor and the high efficiently of the RF-7s. But with that XPA-1 sale going on...that's a tempting pair even if it's not needed. Any downfall to this option? Any updates here? Have you tried RF-7 vs. ERT 8.3? I have ordered a set of Klipsch RF 8.3 but are thinking now on ERT 8.3 instead, since my dealer can't get a hold on enough pairs.. No, I haven't heard the 8.3's yet. I thought I'd get to hear them at the RMAF, but I didn't go due too illnesses in the house. So far I can say I like the sound of RF-7s. I'm definitely happy with the low end on them and everything else seems to come out nice a clean. My only issue is with the volume control right now. emotivalounge.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=stupid&action=display&thread=6840But I think I've found a solution to that.
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Post by RayoVac on Dec 9, 2009 17:16:13 GMT -5
I am very interested in this topic. I have been looking at all the reviews of the 8.3 as L/R, 6.3 as C and ERDs and find myself consumed. I drive a Klipsch Ref-7 setup (RB-75s L/R RC-7 and 4 RS-7s) with an MPS-1 and previously a DMC-1 now waiting for the UMC-1. I am very curious to hear comments from folks who are familiar with the Ref-7 series compared to the new Emotiva stuff. I am feeling upgrade-itis coming on.
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Post by roadrunner on Dec 10, 2009 0:33:07 GMT -5
Over the last year of so, I remember that there were a few posts from owners who had the RF-7 and replaced them with the ERT-8.3 speakers. If I recall this correctly, they preferred the Emotiva speaker because of its clarity, accuracy, imaging and sound stage -- all were better with the ERT-8.3.
One of the posts pointed out that the Emotiva speakers sounded more realistic -- life-like sound reproduction. They are both excellent speakers. Your taste in music genre will have a huge impact on which speaker you will likely prefer.
If you have the patience to search through the old posts you will be able to find the threads the comparisons are in. If you already own the RF-7 and are considering the ERT-8.3, you will need to bring in a pair of 8.3 speakers to audition side-by-side with your RF-7s. That is the only way you will ever know which is better for you. Emotiva has a 30-day trial period you can use to audition their equipment. That way you can compare them in your home using your equipment -- by far the best way to evaluate competing speakers. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by RayoVac on Dec 10, 2009 11:07:24 GMT -5
RoadRunner, Thanks for the reply. I have been reviewing old posts for quite a while. Where I struggle is HT. It sure sounds like RF-7 vs. ERT-8.3 could well show the 8.3 as a preferred solution. However, we use our system almost exclusively for TV view and watching movies. Even when we listen to music, we do it multi-channel to fill the house. My feelings of shortcoming are in the Center channel area. Just the nagging feeling over the years that I could do better then the RC-7. I would love the find someone that has used a Klipsch Ref-7 for HT with the RC-7 that did a comparison to a 8.3, 6.3 ERD setup.
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