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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 26, 2018 10:44:13 GMT -5
Background:
Running jRiver from my Mac Mini Mini is connected via USB to a Stealth DC-1 DC-1 appears, and is selected in the output sound-setup list of the Mini as "USB" (and no such USB item appeared prior to connecting the DC-1) Signal path is Mac Mini to DC-1 via USB, balanced outputs from DC-1 to XSP-2, and XSP-2 to speakers
Factoids:
When I play anything from jRiver, I can hear it (very faintly) from the internal speakers of the Mac Mini, but no music plays from the main speakers, regardless of DC-1 volume level.
I know that the analog outputs of the DC-1 are working because when I test the speakers from the MIDI Setup app in the Mac's Utilities folder, I get 100% volume white noise from the speakers. (don't want to do that again...)
I've checked the setup of the DC-1 and the settings are as follows: Input=USB, USB mode=USB-2, Volume=Variable, USB Mode=Asynchronous
So, any idea what stupid thing I'm doing wrong?
Thanks - Boomzilla
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Post by novisnick on Sept 26, 2018 11:25:27 GMT -5
Background: Running jRiver from my Mac Mini Mini is connected via USB to a Stealth DC-1 DC-1 appears, and is selected in the output sound-setup list of the Mini as "USB" (and no such USB item appeared prior to connecting the DC-1) Signal path is Mac Mini to DC-1 via USB, balanced outputs from DC-1 to XSP-2, and XSP-2 to speakers Factoids: When I play anything from jRiver, I can hear it (very faintly) from the internal speakers of the Mac Mini, but no music plays from the main speakers, regardless of DC-1 volume level. I know that the analog outputs of the DC-1 are working because when I test the speakers from the MIDI Setup app in the Mac's Utilities folder, I get 100% volume white noise from the speakers. (don't want to do that again...) I've checked the setup of the DC-1 and the settings are as follows: Input=USB, USB mode=USB-2, Volume=Variable, USB Mode=Asynchronous So, any idea what stupid thing I'm doing wrong? Thanks - Boomzilla Has to be software related.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 26, 2018 12:01:07 GMT -5
Background: Running jRiver from my Mac Mini Mini is connected via USB to a Stealth DC-1 DC-1 appears, and is selected in the output sound-setup list of the Mini as "USB" (and no such USB item appeared prior to connecting the DC-1) Signal path is Mac Mini to DC-1 via USB, balanced outputs from DC-1 to XSP-2, and XSP-2 to speakers Factoids: When I play anything from jRiver, I can hear it (very faintly) from the internal speakers of the Mac Mini, but no music plays from the main speakers, regardless of DC-1 volume level. I know that the analog outputs of the DC-1 are working because when I test the speakers from the MIDI Setup app in the Mac's Utilities folder, I get 100% volume white noise from the speakers. (don't want to do that again...) I've checked the setup of the DC-1 and the settings are as follows: Input=USB, USB mode=USB-2, Volume=Variable, USB Mode=Asynchronous So, any idea what stupid thing I'm doing wrong? Thanks - Boomzilla My desktop Mini and DC-1 are hooked up the same way. Have you also checked in the “Sound” applet in the Control Panel to see where it thinks the output is going. One thing I’ve noticed when troubleshooting issues with the V3 is that ‘sound’ and ‘midi’ don’t always agree. Edit: Yes you did, I read right over that
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Post by garbulky on Sept 26, 2018 12:11:03 GMT -5
Try a different input first to ensure that you are getting proper sound - like a digital output from your Oppo. No the white noise doesn't count. That could be garbled information. With USB there's all kinds of weirdness that can happen that's software related. For instance there were early reports on Emotiva's previous dacs that the device stops sending sound after it goes to sleep. Your device may not be selected even when it's detected. With say a dedicated CD player you are much more sure of actually getting sound. After your sure the DC-1 produces actual music. Then you'll have to fiddle around with the mac. BTW the mac mini has a toslink output hidden in the headphone jack port. You need this adapter www.amazon.com/Digital-Fiber-Toslink-Adaptor-Optical/dp/B074Z416CG/BUT I really reccommend using a dedicated standalone device first so you can rule out the mac software settings.
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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 26, 2018 12:28:15 GMT -5
I've got every TOSLINK adapter known to man. Likewise with USB. I'll try the easy thing first - Hook up the Mini's TOSLINK out to the DC-1's TOSLINK in. If that works, then it's a USB issue. I don't like USB, but it usually sounds better (to me) than TOSLINK. Unfortunately, so far as I know, the ONLY two digital outputs of the Mac Mini (that the DC-1 can use) are USB and TOSLINK. The Mini also has a HDMI output, but the DC-1 can't use it.
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Post by garbulky on Sept 26, 2018 12:31:12 GMT -5
I've got every TOSLINK adapter known to man. Likewise with USB. I'll try the easy thing first - Hook up the Mini's TOSLINK out to the DC-1's TOSLINK in. If that works, then it's a USB issue. I don't like USB, but it usually sounds better (to me) than TOSLINK. Unfortunately, so far as I know, the ONLY two digital outputs of the Mac Mini (that the DC-1 can use) are USB and TOSLINK. The Mini also has a HDMI output, but the DC-1 can't use it. I really reccomend using a toslink from a standalone device NOT the mac mini first.
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Post by novisnick on Sept 26, 2018 13:18:51 GMT -5
After making sure that the Mac Mini has the DC-1 selected go to JRiver and go through the software there. That must be where the problem lies.
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Post by creimes on Sept 26, 2018 13:29:43 GMT -5
Seems as though your Audio output device in the settings is set to Internal Speaker and not the desired output you want, I always used USB and could discern no noticeable difference between it and the Toslink connection, remember when using Toslink it is converted from copper to optical and then back to copper again so that is something to think about even if it ever made a worldly difference haha.
Chad
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Post by macromicroman on Sept 26, 2018 14:19:23 GMT -5
Maybe I'm missing something but isn't an amp needed? what is an XSP-2?
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Post by novisnick on Sept 26, 2018 14:50:28 GMT -5
JRiver > Tools > Options >
Either in , Audio Device or Settings, this should be where the problem is.
Good luck, let us know.
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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 26, 2018 15:31:06 GMT -5
Problem is NOT with USB. I plugged in the optical cable from Mini to the DC-1, and told the mini to direct audio to that output - same result. No audio output.
Since the Mac Mini can successfully output white noise on the speaker check through the DC-1, then the problem is NOT with the Mini or the DC-1. This is beginning to look like a jRiver problem (sigh).
I'll try your settings check, Nick, and let y'all know what happens.
Thanks kindly - Boom
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Post by garbulky on Sept 26, 2018 15:35:35 GMT -5
Problem is NOT with USB. I plugged in the optical cable from Mini to the DC-1, and told the mini to direct audio to that output - same result. No audio output. Since the Mac Mini can successfully output white noise on the speaker check through the DC-1, then the problem is NOT with the Mini or the DC-1. This is beginning to look like a jRiver problem (sigh). I'll try your settings check, Nick, and let y'all know what happens. Thanks kindly - Boom I understand...but have you tried optical from your oppo?
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Post by novisnick on Sept 26, 2018 15:36:56 GMT -5
Problem is NOT with USB. I plugged in the optical cable from Mini to the DC-1, and told the mini to direct audio to that output - same result. No audio output. Since the Mac Mini can successfully output white noise on the speaker check through the DC-1, then the problem is NOT with the Mini or the DC-1. This is beginning to look like a jRiver problem (sigh). I'll try your settings check, Nick, and let y'all know what happens. Thanks kindly - Boom After checking hardware and then software, I always check to see if the problem is between the chair and the keyboard! LOL I’ve found it there more then once! 😋
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Post by novisnick on Sept 26, 2018 15:38:47 GMT -5
Problem is NOT with USB. I plugged in the optical cable from Mini to the DC-1, and told the mini to direct audio to that output - same result. No audio output. Since the Mac Mini can successfully output white noise on the speaker check through the DC-1, then the problem is NOT with the Mini or the DC-1. This is beginning to look like a jRiver problem (sigh). I'll try your settings check, Nick, and let y'all know what happens. Thanks kindly - Boom I understand...but have you tried optical from your oppo? Ill bet you that 3D movie you want that its not a hardware problem! What do you want to put up for this bet? 😁
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Post by garbulky on Sept 26, 2018 15:47:19 GMT -5
I understand...but have you tried optical from your oppo? Ill bet you that 3D movie you want that its not a hardware problem! What do you want to put up for this bet? 😁 I don't think it's a hardware problem either. But you have to go methodically. Eliminate one, then the other. Otherwise you can spend time doing wild goose chases. I think it's likely the mac or the j river setttings.
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Post by Gary Cook on Sept 26, 2018 15:54:51 GMT -5
I concur with your “it’s a JRiver problem”. I know you aren’t a fan but I’d suggest trying ITunes and see if that works. I’m not sure if JRiver is the same, but on my MacMini using iTunes there are 2 volume controls active when using an external DAC. The iTunes volume control, which I set to maximum to avoid loosing bits, and the Apple OS master volume which controls the resistor ladder in the Ego.
When an external DAC is selected from the IOS drop down box there is no sound from the internal MacMini speaker. With iTunes and Mac OS it only requires the external DAC to selected once, possibly with JRiver and Mac OS you may need to do it twice, once in each.
Cheers Gary
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Post by novisnick on Sept 26, 2018 16:00:57 GMT -5
Boom, you haven’t networked your tablet yet, have you? Hope not!
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Post by Jean Genie on Sept 26, 2018 19:42:55 GMT -5
JRiver > Tools > Options > Either in , Audio Device or Settings, this should be where the problem is. Good luck, let us know. Agree w/ Nick. Should be something in jrmc like "direct sound" or " Mac/Apple " or something else in the dropdown you'll recognize - toggle that. Hope you find it.
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Post by klinemj on Sept 26, 2018 20:27:27 GMT -5
After checking the settings, I'd prepare a Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads, and you're gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze...just in case the settings fix doesn't work.
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Post by Boomzilla on Sept 26, 2018 22:22:53 GMT -5
Maybe I'm missing something but isn't an amp needed? what is an XSP-2? Sorry - That's an XPA-2...
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