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Post by garbulky on Oct 17, 2018 12:58:54 GMT -5
First Man What did you think? Please keep flag discussion out of this so this thread doesn't get shut down. Want to talk about it, start another thread.  I am a huge fan of the space programs as a whole. I read Neil Armstrong's a Life of Flight and I enjoyed it. Learning the risks that these astronauts put themselves in to and the cutting edge stuff they were doing is amazing to me. A few thoughts - the director clearly knows what to do with this movie. A clear artistic vision was had the whole time through. The special effects were stunning. I went and saw this in Cinemax with Auro sound. Having watched a lot of moon and launch footage I was stunned at how good the reproductions were. The Appolo 13 Saturn launch sequence definitely looks dated to these spectacular looking shots. I would say a good portion of this movie is basically shaking cockpit scenes. And it really does work on a big screen. You get the sensation that you are there. You feel the disorientation of being crammed in a tiny capsule with poor visibility and trying to do precise manouvers. I am not a fan of Ryan Gosling but he did do a badass Neil Armstrong! You could see he was fully committed and dead serious about getting to the moon despite saying very little. The score was beautiful and grand. More important a lot of interesting segments happened on the way to the moon. And they included all those things I wished other movies would have done. ***SPOILERS**** From showing that they launched two atlas's at the same time for orbital docking. The X-15!!! The poor visibility. The out of control spins. The LLV testing and failure! (Oh I wish there was more of this!) The landing site not being feasible and the fuel running out. The computer glitches. ****END SPOILERS*** I was awaiting the release of this movie and it satisfied everything I wanted. My gripes. Well it seemed like Neil Armstrong was pretty annoyed about going to the moon. Was he? I don't know. But this makes it seem like he didn't really like it. ***SPOILER: The end scene - couldn't his wife give him a break? He went to the moon and returned safe. Come on lady! *** END SPOILER Also well he doesn't really say much and though that may be true to his character, I would have liked a bit more from him. More relationships with his fellow astronauts etc. Also more importantly Buzz came across very poorly in this one as he only got a few lines and they were all him being a jerk. Come on guys! Buzz was right there with Neil! There's a reason he was on the first flight! And finally: The moon sequences were glorious. But I really wish they dedicated more of the movie to it. I felt like overall it was a short part of the movie and left out a lot of what happened once they got to the moon. I guess this was a movie about getting to the moon and what it felt like once you got there but stopped short of everything that happened during it. Also wish they had more after the earth return sequences. The publicity etc. And that's it. I rate this movie a 4.9/5 with 0.1 stars deducted because I wanted EVEN MORE! But what was there was a 5/5. I felt like I was there and that's what I was hoping for with this movie. It looks amazing on a large screen. If you are a space buff go see it. |
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Post by gus4emo on Oct 17, 2018 13:20:08 GMT -5
What did you think? Please keep flag discussion out of this so this thread doesn't get shut down. Want to talk about it, start another thread. I am a huge fan of the space programs as a whole. I read Neil Armstrong's a Life of Flight and I enjoyed it. Learning the risks that these astronauts put themselves in to and the cutting edge stuff they were doing is amazing to me. A few thoughts - the director clearly knows what to do with this movie. A clear artistic vision was had the whole time through. The special effects were stunning. I went and saw this in Cinemax with Auro sound. Having watched a lot of moon and launch footage I was stunned at how good the reproductions were. The Appolo 13 Saturn launch sequence definitely looks dated to these spectacular looking shots. I would say a good portion of this movie is basically shaking cockpit scenes. And it really does work on a big screen. You get the sensation that you are there. You feel the disorientation of being crammed in a tiny capsule with poor visibility and trying to do precise manouvers. I am not a fan of Ryan Gosling but he did do a badass Neil Armstrong! You could see he was fully committed and dead serious about getting to the moon despite saying very little. The score was beautiful and grand. More important a lot of interesting segments happened on the way to the moon. And they included all those things I wished other movies would have done. ***SPOILERS**** From showing that they launched two atlas's at the same time for orbital docking. The X-15!!! The poor visibility. The out of control spins. The LLV testing and failure! (Oh I wish there was more of this!) The landing site not being feasible and the fuel running out. The computer glitches. ****END SPOILERS*** I was awaiting the release of this movie and it satisfied everything I wanted. My gripes. Well it seemed like Neil Armstrong was pretty annoyed about going to the moon. Was he? I don't know. But this makes it seem like he didn't really like it. ***SPOILER: The end scene - couldn't his wife give him a break? He went to the moon and returned safe. Come on lady! *** END SPOILER Also well he doesn't really say much and though that may be true to his character, I would have liked a bit more from him. More relationships with his fellow astronauts etc. Also more importantly Buzz came across very poorly in this one as he only got a few lines and they were all him being a jerk. Come on guys! Buzz was right there with Neil! There's a reason he was on the first flight! And finally: The moon sequences were glorious. But I really wish they dedicated more of the movie to it. I felt like overall it was a short part of the movie and left out a lot of what happened once they got to the moon. I guess this was a movie about getting to the moon and what it felt like once you got there but stopped short of everything that happened during it. Also wish they had more after the earth return sequences. The publicity etc. And that's it. I rate this movie a 4.9/5 with 0.1 stars deducted because I wanted EVEN MORE! But what was there was a 5/5. I felt like I was there and that's what I was hoping for with this movie. It looks amazing on a large screen. If you are a space buff go see it. What's the name of the movie? |
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Post by gus4emo on Oct 17, 2018 13:22:15 GMT -5
What did you think? Please keep flag discussion out of this so this thread doesn't get shut down. Want to talk about it, start another thread. I am a huge fan of the space programs as a whole. I read Neil Armstrong's a Life of Flight and I enjoyed it. Learning the risks that these astronauts put themselves in to and the cutting edge stuff they were doing is amazing to me. A few thoughts - the director clearly knows what to do with this movie. A clear artistic vision was had the whole time through. The special effects were stunning. I went and saw this in Cinemax with Auro sound. Having watched a lot of moon and launch footage I was stunned at how good the reproductions were. The Appolo 13 Saturn launch sequence definitely looks dated to these spectacular looking shots. I would say a good portion of this movie is basically shaking cockpit scenes. And it really does work on a big screen. You get the sensation that you are there. You feel the disorientation of being crammed in a tiny capsule with poor visibility and trying to do precise manouvers. I am not a fan of Ryan Gosling but he did do a badass Neil Armstrong! You could see he was fully committed and dead serious about getting to the moon despite saying very little. The score was beautiful and grand. More important a lot of interesting segments happened on the way to the moon. And they included all those things I wished other movies would have done. ***SPOILERS**** From showing that they launched two atlas's at the same time for orbital docking. The X-15!!! The poor visibility. The out of control spins. The LLV testing and failure! (Oh I wish there was more of this!) The landing site not being feasible and the fuel running out. The computer glitches. ****END SPOILERS*** I was awaiting the release of this movie and it satisfied everything I wanted. My gripes. Well it seemed like Neil Armstrong was pretty annoyed about going to the moon. Was he? I don't know. But this makes it seem like he didn't really like it. ***SPOILER: The end scene - couldn't his wife give him a break? He went to the moon and returned safe. Come on lady! *** END SPOILER Also well he doesn't really say much and though that may be true to his character, I would have liked a bit more from him. More relationships with his fellow astronauts etc. Also more importantly Buzz came across very poorly in this one as he only got a few lines and they were all him being a jerk. Come on guys! Buzz was right there with Neil! There's a reason he was on the first flight! And finally: The moon sequences were glorious. But I really wish they dedicated more of the movie to it. I felt like overall it was a short part of the movie and left out a lot of what happened once they got to the moon. I guess this was a movie about getting to the moon and what it felt like once you got there but stopped short of everything that happened during it. Also wish they had more after the earth return sequences. The publicity etc. And that's it. I rate this movie a 4.9/5 with 0.1 stars deducted because I wanted EVEN MORE! But what was there was a 5/5. I felt like I was there and that's what I was hoping for with this movie. It looks amazing on a large screen. If you are a space buff go see it. What's the name of the movie? First Man |
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Post by audiogeek on Oct 17, 2018 13:24:45 GMT -5
Totally agree with your synopsis! Great movie! I grew up during that time (in Houston) and had the 3 ft Saturn 5 model in my room. Highly recommended.
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Post by garbulky on Oct 17, 2018 13:36:38 GMT -5
Totally agree with your synopsis! Great movie! I grew up during that time (in Houston) and had the 3 ft Saturn 5 model in my room. Highly recommended. Do you still have it? If you'd like, send it my way I'll display it at my work and let the teens learn all about it! |
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Post by audiogeek on Oct 17, 2018 14:21:30 GMT -5
Totally agree with your synopsis! Great movie! I grew up during that time (in Houston) and had the 3 ft Saturn 5 model in my room. Highly recommended. Do you still have it? If you'd like, send it my way I'll display it at my work and let the teens learn all about it! Unfortunately not... shortly after that, we moved overseas and I have to get rid of most of my models. I sure wish I'd left it in the states with a friend or something. The stages came apart and the capsule and lunar module were removable. I also sold all my GI Joe & Major Matt Mason toys too.  |
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 17, 2018 15:15:26 GMT -5
Totally agree with your synopsis! Great movie! I grew up during that time (in Houston) and had the 3 ft Saturn 5 model in my room. Highly recommended. Do you still have it? If you'd like, send it my way I'll display it at my work and let the teens learn all about it! Why not just buy this and let them build it too? It's better and more fun than any model IMO. www.amazon.com/LEGO-Ideas-Apollo-Saturn-Building/dp/B071G3QMS2 |
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Post by wilburthegoose on Oct 18, 2018 12:35:57 GMT -5
I'm going to see it a 2nd time - this time in Imax. And I NEVER see a movie in the theater twice!
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Post by garbulky on Oct 18, 2018 12:58:56 GMT -5
I'm going to see it a 2nd time - this time in Imax. And I NEVER see a movie in the theater twice! I am probably going to do that this weekend. |
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Post by Loop 7 on Oct 19, 2018 1:34:47 GMT -5
Absolutely perfect.
Note: I'm one of those oddballs who has read all the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo astronaut biographies/autobiographies along with a stack of Apollo program books. I even have huge PDFs of engineering documentation for Apollo systems.
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Post by garbulky on Oct 19, 2018 9:34:19 GMT -5
Absolutely perfect. Note: I'm one of those oddballs who has read all the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo astronaut biographies/autobiographies along with a stack of Apollo program books. I even have a huge PDFs of engineering documentation for Apollo systems. The more detail I see about these huge machines, I wonder how did they manage that level of precision and sophistication back then. I've only read a few books about it and I want to read more! Now I'm even more interested in Buzz because he doesn't get quite as much press. The Saturn V did not have only 5 rockets on it. The Saturn V had over 80 (!!!) rockets engines and rocket motors that had to work perfectly to make it to the moon. Even the the segments that separated were separated by rockets.  The huge vehicle actually had three self contained rocket powered vehicles. Two of them - the mothership and the lander had to be manually steerable and capable of supporting a human life. They also had to function in two different gravity environments. It's still by far the most powerful machine ever launched and it's been 50 years and we have yet to equal it. . |
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Post by adaboy on Oct 19, 2018 9:43:01 GMT -5
This is what I told. My wife to get me for Christmas! |
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Post by davidl81 on Oct 19, 2018 10:03:35 GMT -5
Absolutely perfect. Note: I'm one of those oddballs who has read all the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo astronaut biographies/autobiographies along with a stack of Apollo program books. I even have a huge PDFs of engineering documentation for Apollo systems. The more detail I see about these huge machines, I wonder how did they manage that level of precision and sophistication back then. I've only read a few books about it and I want to read more! Now I'm even more interested in Buzz because he doesn't get quite as much press. The Saturn V did not have only 5 rockets on it. The Saturn V had over 80 (!!!) rockets engines and rocket motors that had to work perfectly to make it to the moon. Even the the segments that separated were separated by rockets. The huge vehicle actually had three self contained rocket powered vehicles. Two of them - the mothership and the lander had to be manually steerable and capable of supporting a human life. They also had to function in two different gravity environments. It's still by far the most powerful machine ever launched and it's been 50 years and we have yet to equal it. . Seeing it in person at JSC in Houston in unreal. They have the actual Saturn V rocket there that has been restored. Just looking at the level of detail on something that had to be built using hand draw schematics is remarkable. |
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 19, 2018 10:10:56 GMT -5
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Post by garbulky on Oct 19, 2018 10:17:05 GMT -5
OH MY GOODNESS!!!! Now I know where I'm going. |
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 19, 2018 10:22:49 GMT -5
OH MY GOODNESS!!!! Now I know where I'm going. You have to take the Tram Tour. You get to see the Saturn V, the old original command center room (and sit in the actual untouched chairs people of great importance have sat in), and see the actual working operating "shop" (I forget what it's called now) where they are building the next generation pods and have the actual space station training modules. Very cool. spacecenter.org/attractions/nasa-tram-tour/ |
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Post by garbulky on Oct 19, 2018 10:28:11 GMT -5
OH MY GOODNESS!!!! Now I know where I'm going. You have to take the Tram Tour. You get to see the Saturn V, the old original command center room (and sit in the actual untouched chairs people of great importance have sat in), and see the actual working operating "shop" (I forget what it's called now) where they are building the next generation pods and have the actual space station training modules. Very cool. spacecenter.org/attractions/nasa-tram-tour/So you don't get to stop and look around? |
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 19, 2018 10:38:55 GMT -5
You have to take the Tram Tour. You get to see the Saturn V, the old original command center room (and sit in the actual untouched chairs people of great importance have sat in), and see the actual working operating "shop" (I forget what it's called now) where they are building the next generation pods and have the actual space station training modules. Very cool. spacecenter.org/attractions/nasa-tram-tour/So you don't get to stop and look around? Yes, they make several stops. The tram basically takes you inside the working NASA facility (through the gates) and drops you off at places withing the facility. First stop was the old mission control room. You have to go up about 100 steps because the elevator is small and slow. Inside a guy gives a short speech about the place and so on. Second stop was the training center place where you walk along a glass hall and look down at the facility. Last stop is the Saturn V Rocket located inside a big air conditioned warehouse sort of building. I'd say there you get around 15 - 20 minutes or so to walk around the rocket and take pictures. I don't have any of the pics here at work or I'd load them up for you. |
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Post by audiogeek on Oct 19, 2018 11:44:08 GMT -5
Been on that tour too, was incredible walking the length of the building w the Saturn 5 laying in its side.
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Post by Bonzo on Oct 19, 2018 13:01:30 GMT -5
If you guys really love this type of stuff, then one MUST SEE place you need to visit is about 30 minutes from my house, the US Air Force Museum here in Dayton Ohio. It's pretty spectacular (overall WAY cooler than Houston). They have so much stuff it's insane. Last summer they opened the Memphis Belle exhibit. Check the Exhibits section on their website for more pictures. www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/ Here is a direct link to the Space Exhibition. www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Space-Gallery/Dayton got totally shafted by NASA with the Space Shuttle give away. Instead of picking the Dayton museum, where research and development was done and a shuttle for the museum made complete sense, they sent one to New York, simply because it was New York. People here are still sore about it. |
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