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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 24, 2019 14:21:33 GMT -5
............and exactly what do you recommend for a break-in process? You really do just skip over my posts don't you? 😉😁 Check the bottom of page #1 and the top of page #2 of this very thread for my and S&V answers. I wouldn't say I completely skip over your posts, but a rather fast skimming! The more recent article is pretty much what the ISF Calibration Professional I use has already advised me. He specifically told me just watch it, for at least 300 hours, as I would normally and limit static images. UHD blu-ray and blu-ray movies are the safest, but he realizes cable TV will be watched during that time, and he doesn't recommend slides. Link to ChadB's website below. www.hdtvbychadb.comI'll also be using the initial settings from RTINGS review of my OLED. www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c8/settings#hdr-settings
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 24, 2019 15:17:28 GMT -5
You really do just skip over my posts don't you? 😉😁 Check the bottom of page #1 and the top of page #2 of this very thread for my and S&V answers. I wouldn't say I completely skip over your posts, but a rather fast skimming! The more recent article is pretty much what the ISF Calibration Professional I use has already advised me. He specifically told me just watch it, for at least 300 hours, as I would normally and limit static images. UHD blu-ray and blu-ray movies are the safest, but he realizes cable TV will be watched during that time, and he doesn't recommend slides. Link to ChadB's website below. www.hdtvbychadb.comI'll also be using the initial settings from RTINGS review of my OLED. www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c8/settings#hdr-settings I tried doing the same, using Tom Norton's settings from S&V. Left them at those settings until I had it calibrated. There was a night and day difference after calibration. As it has been said by many a professional, no 2 TVs are exactly alike, so doing this really doesn't work. Even old Andrew Robinson employee said the same thing. So while your plan sounds great, its still going to need proper calibration. Just wait until your 100 or 200 or 300 hours is done before you do it. Just remember static images also means widescreen movies with the black bars top & bottom. 300 hours is a lot of hours not watching any TV without station logos, school cancelations, etc, or movies without the bars. Thats why picking a few Blu-rays and putting them in A/B loop works best. That way you can let it run straight all throught the day and night, even when you aren't there. 100 hours will be done in 4 days instead of weeks.
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 24, 2019 17:21:26 GMT -5
Break in for 100 (or is it 300 hours), no cable TV, avoid cropped content ..................... that'll never happen in my house with the boss and kids.
Cheers Gary
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Post by novisnick on Jan 24, 2019 17:40:29 GMT -5
LG QLED blacks are crushed Is it Samsung QLED or LG OLED whose blacks are crushed? I did notice on an older model 50 inch LG OLED that the blacks were crushed. But on their larger 65 inch unit the blacks were no (visibly) crushed. Any further info on this? These are recent reviews of 2018 products.
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Post by garbulky on Jan 24, 2019 17:45:00 GMT -5
Is it Samsung QLED or LG OLED whose blacks are crushed? I did notice on an older model 50 inch LG OLED that the blacks were crushed. But on their larger 65 inch unit the blacks were no (visibly) crushed. Any further info on this? These are recent reviews of 2018 products. I mean is it Samsung or LG?
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Post by novisnick on Jan 24, 2019 18:18:51 GMT -5
These are recent reviews of 2018 products. I mean is it Samsung or LG? They are claiming that the LG is crushing the blacks, I’ve watched examples of it. I’ll look it up on YouTube. I realize the reports are only as good as the Calibrater/ reviewer.
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 24, 2019 18:25:06 GMT -5
Break in for 100 (or is it 300 hours), no cable TV, avoid cropped content ..................... that'll never happen in my house with the boss and kids. Cheers Gary That's what a second TV is for, and why the 24 hour method is the least painful. 5 work days and you are done.
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Post by novisnick on Jan 24, 2019 18:55:08 GMT -5
I must say, this is the best and most honest review/ interview I’ve seen to date! You’ll never guess what this reviewers favorite TV is! Well worth you time to watch this one.
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Post by novisnick on Jan 24, 2019 19:19:18 GMT -5
I didn’t realize how big the controversy was, I’m going to slowly back out of this thread and leave it at this, For what I’ve spent and the quality of picture I’m receiving I can honestly say that I’m extremely happy with my 65”Q6FN
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Post by Gary Cook on Jan 24, 2019 20:43:00 GMT -5
I didn’t realize how big the controversy was, I’m going to slowly back out of this thread and leave it at this, For what I’ve spent and the quality of picture I’m receiving I can honestly say that I’m extremely happy with my 65”Q6FN Controversy? What controversy? I must have missed it, all I see is enthusiasts discussing the pro and cons of gear, like we always do Glad to see (hear) that the Trusted Reviews guys agree with my experience that QLED's are better in my house where it's bright, with multiple ambient light sources. FWIW, my wife has been watching 6 or so hours a day of the Australian Open tennis for the last 2 weeks (she's on holidays), with the station ID and the match score box in the same place all the time. Not very OLED friendly. Cheers Gary
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Post by doc1963 on Jan 24, 2019 22:13:40 GMT -5
I didn’t realize how big the controversy was, I’m going to slowly back out of this thread and leave it at this, For what I’ve spent and the quality of picture I’m receiving I can honestly say that I’m extremely happy with my 65”Q6FNJust as it should be. Does anything else really matter...? I purchased my OLEDs coming straight from having owned plasmas, so I knew the risks going in. If I had taken every bit of jibber jabber that I had read and assumed that I should expect the same things to happen to me, then I would have missed experiencing the best TVs that I have owned to date. No, OLED technology is not perfect, but it is the closest we have yet to come. Right now, the 55” C6 that’s on as I type this has 9950 hours on the panel. It has an absolutely amazing picture and zero signs of burn-in. 80% of the hours on this set have come from regular TV viewing. I DO NOT watch CNN (well, maybe on a rare occasion), but I do watch a fair amount of sports. The greatly feared static logos and banners have caused no harm to my panel. This is not meant to debunk the fact that others have experienced problems, but maybe (just maybe) there were other factors at play or, more likely, their viewing habits and/or picture settings are totally different than mine. My 55” C6 sits in my living room, which is well lit during the day, and there’s no need to raise the “OLED Light” setting above 50 to obtain a great picture in the room environment. What “black crush” that may be present does not bother me. Mainly because I don’t go looking for it. What I can appreciate more is the fact that the 65” C6 that I use in my media room totally disappears against the totally “blacked out” wall that it’s mounted on. In a dark room, even the black of my plasma appeared “gray” against the black wall. Not so with an OLED. So, yes, I’m willing to make a very minor trade off to have a display that totally disappears when I want it to. The old saying goes “to each their own”... I’d like to think that there’s enough room here for all of us.
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Post by geebo on Jan 24, 2019 22:42:53 GMT -5
I didn’t realize how big the controversy was, I’m going to slowly back out of this thread and leave it at this, For what I’ve spent and the quality of picture I’m receiving I can honestly say that I’m extremely happy with my 65”Q6FNJust as it should be. Does anything else really matter...? I purchased my OLEDs coming straight from having owned plasmas, so I knew the risks going in. If I had taken every bit of jibber jabber that I had read and assumed that I should expect the same things to happen to me, then I would have missed experiencing the best TVs that I have owned to date. No, OLED technology is not perfect, but it is the closest we have yet to come. Right now, the 55” C6 that’s on as I type this has 9950 hours on the panel. It has an absolutely amazing picture and zero signs of burn-in. 80% of the hours on this set have come from regular TV viewing. I DO NOT watch CNN (well, maybe on a rare occasion), but I do watch a fair amount of sports. The greatly feared static logos and banners have caused no harm to my panel. This is not meant to debunk the fact that others have experienced problems, but maybe (just maybe) there were other factors at play or, more likely, their viewing habits and/or picture settings are totally different than mine. My 55” C6 sits in my living room, which is well lit during the day, and there’s no need to raise the “OLED Light” setting above 50 to obtain a great picture in the room environment. What “black crush” that may be present does not bother me. Mainly because I don’t go looking for it. What I can appreciate more is the fact that the 65” C6 that I use in my media room totally disappears against the totally “blacked out” wall that it’s mounted on. In a dark room, even the black of my plasma appeared “gray” against the black wall. Not so with an OLED. So, yes, I’m willing to make a very minor trade off to have a display that totally disappears when I want it to. The old saying goes “to each their own”... I’d like to think that there’s enough room here for all of us. Well said, Doc. The OLED picture quality is head and shoulders above anything else I've had the pleasure of viewing. And the blacks absolutely crush the blacks of any thing else I've seen. At this point I would not even think of buying anything other than an OLED. And like you, I had my doubts at first but could not be happier that I went with OLED.
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Post by novisnick on Jan 25, 2019 0:02:53 GMT -5
I didn’t realize how big the controversy was, I’m going to slowly back out of this thread and leave it at this, For what I’ve spent and the quality of picture I’m receiving I can honestly say that I’m extremely happy with my 65”Q6FNJust as it should be. Does anything else really matter...? I purchased my OLEDs coming straight from having owned plasmas, so I knew the risks going in. If I had taken every bit of jibber jabber that I had read and assumed that I should expect the same things to happen to me, then I would have missed experiencing the best TVs that I have owned to date. No, OLED technology is not perfect, but it is the closest we have yet to come. Right now, the 55” C6 that’s on as I type this has 9950 hours on the panel. It has an absolutely amazing picture and zero signs of burn-in. 80% of the hours on this set have come from regular TV viewing. I DO NOT watch CNN (well, maybe on a rare occasion), but I do watch a fair amount of sports. The greatly feared static logos and banners have caused no harm to my panel. This is not meant to debunk the fact that others have experienced problems, but maybe (just maybe) there were other factors at play or, more likely, their viewing habits and/or picture settings are totally different than mine. My 55” C6 sits in my living room, which is well lit during the day, and there’s no need to raise the “OLED Light” setting above 50 to obtain a great picture in the room environment. What “black crush” that may be present does not bother me. Mainly because I don’t go looking for it. What I can appreciate more is the fact that the 65” C6 that I use in my media room totally disappears against the totally “blacked out” wall that it’s mounted on. In a dark room, even the black of my plasma appeared “gray” against the black wall. Not so with an OLED. So, yes, I’m willing to make a very minor trade off to have a display that totally disappears when I want it to. The old saying goes “to each their own”... I’d like to think that there’s enough room here for all of us. So very true! I enjoyed reading your post very much. It all comes down to personal preference and environment in which the tv is used. 👍
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 25, 2019 14:40:28 GMT -5
Just as it should be. Does anything else really matter...? I purchased my OLEDs coming straight from having owned plasmas, so I knew the risks going in. If I had taken every bit of jibber jabber that I had read and assumed that I should expect the same things to happen to me, then I would have missed experiencing the best TVs that I have owned to date. No, OLED technology is not perfect, but it is the closest we have yet to come. Right now, the 55” C6 that’s on as I type this has 9950 hours on the panel. It has an absolutely amazing picture and zero signs of burn-in. 80% of the hours on this set have come from regular TV viewing. I DO NOT watch CNN (well, maybe on a rare occasion), but I do watch a fair amount of sports. The greatly feared static logos and banners have caused no harm to my panel. This is not meant to debunk the fact that others have experienced problems, but maybe (just maybe) there were other factors at play or, more likely, their viewing habits and/or picture settings are totally different than mine. My 55” C6 sits in my living room, which is well lit during the day, and there’s no need to raise the “OLED Light” setting above 50 to obtain a great picture in the room environment. What “black crush” that may be present does not bother me. Mainly because I don’t go looking for it. What I can appreciate more is the fact that the 65” C6 that I use in my media room totally disappears against the totally “blacked out” wall that it’s mounted on. In a dark room, even the black of my plasma appeared “gray” against the black wall. Not so with an OLED. So, yes, I’m willing to make a very minor trade off to have a display that totally disappears when I want it to. The old saying goes “to each their own”... I’d like to think that there’s enough room here for all of us. So very true! I enjoyed reading your post very much. It all comes down to personal preference and environment in which the tv is used. 👍 Exactly. The video you posted says nothing new for me, its exactly what I tell people who ask me my recommendation. Its very much about the environment, how it will be used, what time of day it will be used, who will be using it, and what they will be using it for. Oh, and budget too. I would only change one thing about his review. A purely black room is NOT required to thoroughly enjoy old Plasmas or OLED. If your room is solid glass or gets pummeled with direct sun, then yeah, its not going to be the best. But it most certainly does not required a fully black room. Anything from gentle sunlight to black is completely acceptable.
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Post by geebo on Jan 25, 2019 14:55:07 GMT -5
So very true! I enjoyed reading your post very much. It all comes down to personal preference and environment in which the tv is used. 👍 Exactly. The video you posted says nothing new for me, its exactly what I tell people who ask me my recommendation. Its very much about the environment, how it will be used, what time of day it will be used, who will be using it, and what they will be using it for. Oh, and budget too. I would only change one thing about his review. A purely black room is NOT required to thoroughly enjoy old Plasmas or OLED. If your room is solid glass or gets pummeled with direct sun, then yeah, its not going to be the best. But it most certainly does not required a fully black room. Anything from gentle sunlight to black is completely acceptable. I would add that normal room lighting is just fine, too.
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Post by Bonzo on Jan 25, 2019 16:17:38 GMT -5
Exactly. The video you posted says nothing new for me, its exactly what I tell people who ask me my recommendation. Its very much about the environment, how it will be used, what time of day it will be used, who will be using it, and what they will be using it for. Oh, and budget too. I would only change one thing about his review. A purely black room is NOT required to thoroughly enjoy old Plasmas or OLED. If your room is solid glass or gets pummeled with direct sun, then yeah, its not going to be the best. But it most certainly does not required a fully black room. Anything from gentle sunlight to black is completely acceptable. I would add that normal room lighting is just fine, too. +1. Absolutely.
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 26, 2019 18:36:46 GMT -5
WOW!!! MY new OLED is just plain stunning. Dolby Vision content is amazing, and I haven't even gone through all the settings yet.
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Post by tchaik on Jan 26, 2019 19:56:20 GMT -5
Exactly. The video you posted says nothing new for me, its exactly what I tell people who ask me my recommendation. Its very much about the environment, how it will be used, what time of day it will be used, who will be using it, and what they will be using it for. Oh, and budget too. I would only change one thing about his review. A purely black room is NOT required to thoroughly enjoy old Plasmas or OLED. If your room is solid glass or gets pummeled with direct sun, then yeah, its not going to be the best. But it most certainly does not required a fully black room. Anything from gentle sunlight to black is completely acceptable. I would add that normal room lighting is just fine, too. ok geebo, I watch during day with lots of light and during night with much of the light turned down or off. you think Samsung Qled is a better choice for me then? tchaik.................
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Post by LCSeminole on Jan 26, 2019 20:28:25 GMT -5
I would add that normal room lighting is just fine, too. ok geebo, I watch during day with lots of light and during night with much of the light turned down or off. you think Samsung Qled is a better choice for me then? tchaik................. I now have an LG OLED C8, and a full array Samsung QLED, give me a few weeks and I'll give you my opinion for what it's worth.
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Post by geebo on Jan 26, 2019 21:43:24 GMT -5
I would add that normal room lighting is just fine, too. ok geebo, I watch during day with lots of light and during night with much of the light turned down or off. you think Samsung Qled is a better choice for me then? tchaik................. I've not used the LG in what I would consider a brightly lit room. But I've never felt wanting greater brightness out of it. I currently have my OLED light set to 65 for normal daytime TV viewing. I can say that in normal lighting the OLED is great and in a dark room watching an HDR or DV movie it can be incredible and far superior to anything else I've seen.
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