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Post by sonicseeker on Apr 28, 2019 10:04:18 GMT -5
I have an OPPO 4K Blue Ray player/205 and have always rented new releases from Red Box, pretty much my families Friday night movie night tradition. Well short story, we were out yesterday and my 14 year old daughter realized she had put a movie in the pouch on the back of the passenger side front seat that we were supposed to return a couple weeks ago. I called Redbox explained, and I realize it is our responsibility, but I was hoping to at least have a little forgiveness offered. Well not so much, I spoke with an English challenged individual from over seas, as always when you call customer service now days, and they informed me I would have to pay the per day rate for every day that I had the disc. Did not matter that I signed on with Redbox pretty much the day they started, they would not offer any relief because the computer screen they stare at all day long does not have that dialogue on it. I, as I said, realize and except the responsibility for this but I am upset that I was made to feel my loyalty and my membership held no value.
I am cancelling my membership and will no longer use their service.
What if any streaming options out there cater to people that actually care about the QUALITY of the picture and sound?
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Post by LuisV on Apr 28, 2019 10:48:14 GMT -5
I redeem all of my digital copies via Vudu.com and feel their streamed versions to be rather good. No, it's not the same quality as the standard bluray or 4k disk, but it's better than most other streams I've seen.
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Post by tasdom on Apr 28, 2019 10:49:24 GMT -5
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Post by tasdom on Apr 28, 2019 10:52:17 GMT -5
I redeem all of my digital copies via Vudu.com and feel their streamed versions to be rather good. No, it's not the same quality as the standard bluray or 4k disk, but it's better than most other streams I've seen. One click ahead of me!
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Post by novisnick on Apr 28, 2019 11:15:46 GMT -5
3D Discs Rules! 4K discs are next in quality sound and video. I too redeem my videos via Vudu & ATV 4K which are equal in quality to each other IMO.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 28, 2019 11:51:42 GMT -5
Since it was mentioned, I gather from reading here and elsewhere that it’s considered acceptable / legal to sell “Digital Copies” of BR and UHD disks? I have several that just expired and went to waste, but also several good ones that I probably won’t use. Is there a site that specializes in buying/selling digital codes?
Edit: I don’t have the bandwidth to stream UHD, and sometimes even HD can be problematic, and the audio/video noticeably inferior to BR or UHDBR. RedBox is my go to for movie watching, I’m sorry to see the OP go, as I want/need them to succeed.
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Post by tropicallutefisk on Apr 28, 2019 12:39:18 GMT -5
I've found Vudu to have the best picture and sound for streaming HD and UHD content. Its still not quite as good as a physical disc, but I'm happy with it for most content.
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Post by LuisV on Apr 28, 2019 12:56:57 GMT -5
Since it was mentioned, I gather from reading here and elsewhere that it’s considered acceptable / legal to sell “Digital Copies” of BR and UHD disks? I have several that just expired and went to waste, but also several good ones that I probably won’t use. Is there a site that specializes in buying/selling digital codes? Edit: I don’t have the bandwidth to stream UHD, and sometimes even HD can be problematic, and the audio/video noticeably inferior to BR or UHDBR. RedBox is my go to for movie watching, I’m sorry to see the OP go, as I want/need them to succeed. To be honest, I'm not sure.
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Post by ottaone on Apr 28, 2019 13:27:32 GMT -5
I don't have a Vudu account but I like Netflix as it has 4k Dolby Vision shows in addition to HDR and I stream through ATV 4K.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Apr 28, 2019 13:27:57 GMT -5
Since it was mentioned, I gather from reading here and elsewhere that it’s considered acceptable / legal to sell “Digital Copies” of BR and UHD disks? I have several that just expired and went to waste, but also several good ones that I probably won’t use. Is there a site that specializes in buying/selling digital codes? Edit: I don’t have the bandwidth to stream UHD, and sometimes even HD can be problematic, and the audio/video noticeably inferior to BR or UHDBR. RedBox is my go to for movie watching, I’m sorry to see the OP go, as I want/need them to succeed. To be honest, I'm not sure. That seems to be the consensus... (sorry for detouring the thread) “Is This Legal? The legal consensus on selling digital movie codes from Blu-ray and DVD packaging seems to be a resounding “eh.” The terms of service of the movies definitely indicate that the movie studios don’t want you to do this. “Not for sale or resale” is pretty clear-cut. In fact, Disney is currently suing Redbox to try to stop them from offering the digital movie sales mentioned above, and eBay’s policy seems to be inconsistent at best. That being said, the doctrine of first sale (which is active in the United States, with similar laws and statutes in other countries) pretty clearly applies to the movie code, since it’s a separate item from the movie disc itself. So selling the code is probably legal, in the sense that it’s a thing that you own—just because it’s a bundled item from the Blu-ray or DVD doesn’t affect its value as a separate item. But thanks to the byzantine rules and laws surrounding copyright, it might be illegal to redeem the code for a streaming movie if you don’t have the disc that it was sold with. Movie industry lawyers would certainly make that argument, if indeed they found it worthwhile to prosecute this relatively small slice of a secondary market at all. That doesn’t seem very likely, at least in the short term—movie studios are more interested in finding and prosecuting pirates than people who go out of their way to “buy” a movie, even in such a circuitous manner. But yes, redeeming a movie code you obtained without actually buying the movie disc probably violates the terms of service, and technically either the studio or the service you redeemed the code on (VUDU, iTunes, Google Play) could revoke your ownership or suspend your account if they find out. Since there’s no way for the studios or the service to know who bought the movie at a retailer and who redeemed the code, however, the practical danger of this is pretty low.” From this article (12/2017) www.howtogeek.com/335037/how-to-buy-and-sell-digital-movie-codes/
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Post by novisnick on Apr 28, 2019 13:58:15 GMT -5
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Post by SteveH on Apr 28, 2019 14:40:15 GMT -5
I stream UHD movies from Vudu. I do not have a 4K TV but I do have a 4K Roku so I can get the Dolby Atmos to my RMC-1 for 7.2.4. The streamed Dolby Atmos is a lossy format, 5.1 Plus, it is not TrueHD like a UHD disc, but I am very happy with the sound quality. I cannot comment on the UHD video quality because I only have 1080p.
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Post by repeetavx on Apr 28, 2019 15:52:50 GMT -5
I too have forgotten to return Redbox videos in a timely manner. No they don't have any mercy. I've resolved myself to "previewing" movies at the theater, or on the normal streaming services like Amazon Prime and Netflix. If I really like them then I purchase them on disc. With my busy schedule, I've forgotten to return Redbox movies one too many times to ever (well maybe not never) use their service again.
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Post by klinemj on Apr 29, 2019 16:24:39 GMT -5
I was about to create a similar thread, so I'll tag onto this one instead of starting something new.
I switched to ripping CD's + using Tidal Hifi for music a while ago. But, I have been slow to consider putting my DVD's and BluRays onto a drive. I'm now thinking it would be great to have all my video content on a shared drive and be able to access it all over the house, in addition to movies we watch via Hulu, Netflix, and HBO streaming.
I'd like the video and audio quality to be the same as the disks.
I keep reading about people here using "Plex" and "nVidia Shield" and other things, and frankly - I barely understand what they are talking about and why. After some searching, if I understood it correctly - Plex would allow me to organize and access any video files I have on a NAS from anywhere I am - in the house or outside of the house. So, I could put the files on a NAS/Cloud storage device, and use Plex via various devices to play back the video to a screen. For example, I could use my new Roku Ultra's to play the videos back onto TV's connected to the Roku's.
Am I understanding it correctly? And, would a setup like a cloud storage device pulled via Plex to a Roku Ultra be the same quality as the original DVD or BluRay?
Also, how would I get the DVD/BluRay to the Cloud storage device/NAS? I'd need a BluRay ripper, so a BluRay drive in a PC and a software like EaseFab BluRay Ripper, makeMKV, or the like?
Correct? (Any reco's on BluRay ripping drives and software?)
Mark
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Post by klinemj on Apr 30, 2019 14:16:17 GMT -5
SteveH tom9933 goozoo and other streamers...any input on the above post? Looking to learn about video streaming, other than via Netflix/Hulu/etc...so, digitizing my own disks and playing them. Mark
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Post by tom9933 on May 3, 2019 7:51:06 GMT -5
Klimenj if you want to manage your own collection look into Plex and Emby, I also used JRiver in the past but moved away from it due to issues with playing back with HDR. Also from a streaming device the only one that I've found that fully supports the lossless codecs with bit streaming pass thru to the receiver is the Nvidia Shield. For movie backup, if you want to keep them in full quality I like MakeMKV
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Post by thrillcat on May 3, 2019 8:16:11 GMT -5
I could've sworn that the Redbox policy was that you pay the day rate until you reach a certain threshold, then you've purchased the disc and you keep it instead of returning it.
As for quality, in the HD days, I always found VUDU to be the best, but I believe iTunes has surpassed them with the AppleTV 4K box and iTunes combo. Sync the two services with Movies Anywhere, but a Movies Anywhere title or two, and the content will be available through both, so you can compare audio and video quality on your system.
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Post by doc1963 on May 3, 2019 9:53:29 GMT -5
I agree with thrillcat … If you have an AppleTV 4K, iTunes. Otherwise VUDU. However, since no Disney owned titles are available in UHD through iTunes, VUDU would be your fallback. Use VUDU for all digital copy code redemption, but before doing so, create a "Movies Anywhere" (MA) account and make sure it is linked to both VUDU and/or iTunes. Any purchases made in either iTunes or VUDU from a studio that participates in MA will be available for you to view in either app. I'm still a big supporter of physical discs, but streaming can't be beat for casual viewing. Almost all of the content in my UV and MA "digital locker" originated from those digital copy codes...
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Post by klinemj on May 4, 2019 13:32:02 GMT -5
thrillcat doc1963I barely understand the whole video streaming thing, so help me figure this out. Why Vudu? I have a bunch of old DVD's and BluRay's I'd like to digitize and be able to watch anywhere in my home without using a disk. For a few of them, I have a digital code, but for most I do not. So, I think I'm going to have to rip disks (using makeMKV or whatever). How would vudu fit in (vs. Plex, for example)? And, per my post a few up...I'd need a BluRay disk reader/ripper, ripping software, a drive big enough to store them, a software (like Plex or whatever) to play them, and a device they will stream through (like my Roku Ultra or a Shield). Is that correct? Really - I know pretty much nothing about this and am seeking to learn. Thanks, Mark
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Post by novisnick on May 4, 2019 13:40:16 GMT -5
thrillcat doc1963 I barely understand the whole video streaming thing, so help me figure this out. Why Vudu? I have a bunch of old DVD's and BluRay's I'd like to digitize and be able to watch anywhere in my home without using a disk. For a few of them, I have a digital code, but for most I do not. So, I think I'm going to have to rip disks (using makeMKV or whatever). How would vudu fit in (vs. Plex, for example)? And, per my post a few up...I'd need a BluRay disk reader/ripper, ripping software, a drive big enough to store them, a software (like Plex or whatever) to play them, and a device they will stream through (like my Roku Ultra or a Shield). Is that correct? Really - I know pretty much nothing about this and am seeking to learn. Thanks, Mark Hey Mark, sorry for butting in. I’ve used VUDU to upload copies of my Bluerays for a small fee. Its a service they offer. So my favorites I’ve done this for but not all of them. Disc to digital www.vudu.com/content/in_home_disc_to_digital.html
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