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Post by daveczski65 on Nov 20, 2020 23:40:07 GMT -5
I use the monoprice hdmi certified cables 4k,,great price also.. like 14.00 for 2 cables.my Emotiva hdmi would not do hdmi arc
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Post by ttocs on Nov 20, 2020 23:46:33 GMT -5
I don't have any problems with any cables - as long as they are plugged in completely.
I bought a bunch of cables on the jungle river site, several different lengths. They work great, but on some of them the metal connector at each end is not out of the plastic far enough so they only have about 1mm of contact. Move it even a little and the connection is lost.
Cutting the plastic shroud helps expose more of the plug itself.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Dec 9, 2020 6:10:08 GMT -5
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Post by jbrunwa on Jul 8, 2021 13:59:36 GMT -5
I only use ultra high speed HDMI certified cables. They provide an HDMI cable certification verification app. I don’t know why any certified cable doesn’t work, except for manufacturing defect. www.hdmi.org/spec21sub/ultrahighspeedcable |
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Post by ttocs on Jul 8, 2021 14:35:19 GMT -5
Great success with Zeskit Maya HDMI cables up to 10' in length, I don't have a need for longer. I've got these lengths right now in my system: 3ft, 5ft, 6.5ft, 10ft.  |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Jul 8, 2021 17:34:18 GMT -5
According to the HDfury guys, Zeskit and Cable Matters cables are their preferred choice. They also say that Monoprice cables are hit or miss. I had a lot of cables from them that would not push the higher resolutions...and this was using a 4K source on their 8K cables. Personally, I had good luck with Zeskit 3ft and 6ft cables (their 8K cables) and Cable Matters 4K cables 3ft and 6ft (cheap!). For longer runs 15ft, I went with a Ruipro Fiber Cable, it has been rock solid.
The test procedure that HDfury recommends is running a 600MHz signal through the cable for 30 minutes, if no dropouts you are good to go! I did this with my AppleTV direct to the TV. Using this test, the Monoprice 8K cables would start to flash after a few minutes.
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Post by Soup on Jul 9, 2021 11:03:28 GMT -5
Wow! Very informative post. Thanks!
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 9, 2021 17:36:55 GMT -5
Great success with Zeskit Maya HDMI cables up to 10' in length, I don't have a need for longer. I've got these lengths right now in my system: 3ft, 5ft, 6.5ft, 10ft. Nice to have lengths with the recommendations! I hate cables that are too long (and too short ... well 😜). I've stuck with my MPs not only because they work perfectly, but they come in 8' (the magic number in my system). I like black too, but wouldn't mind techflex). If we get the 2.1 board then I'll look for replacements. 👉 Pro Tip: Use multi colored shrink tube or electrical tape to mark both ends of your HDMI cables. If you use electrical tape, don't use the cheap all-in-one packages Home Depot sells, the adhesive can't handle the heat of the connector plugged into the processor, eventually you'll have a sticky mess (and no M&M enjoyment!) I prefer shrink tube if you can get a color assortment, but the better quality separate rolls of colored electrical tape work well too and it's quick and easy. Don't use this:  Use something like this: Attachment DeletedAttachment Deleted |
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Post by LCSeminole on Jul 9, 2021 22:49:00 GMT -5
Great success with Zeskit Maya HDMI cables up to 10' in length, I don't have a need for longer. I've got these lengths right now in my system: 3ft, 5ft, 6.5ft, 10ft. I am also using all the same length Zeskit Maya HDMI cables as you, except you can add the 4m/13ft CL3 in-wall rated length as well. I'm also using a cable that's quite popular in the gaming world, Pacroban 8K HDMI 2.1 Braided Cable (10ft) CL3 in-wall rated(but not Ultra High Speed certified by the HDMI.org). Both of these cables I bought for their "in-wall" CL3 rating, and both and have no problems passing full bandwidth 4K. They're a bit more stiff than the regular Zeskit Maya HDMI cables because of the in-wall jacketing but are a necessity in my case because of local/state NEC code requirements. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 11, 2021 4:28:06 GMT -5
… The test procedure that HDfury recommends is running a 600MHz signal through the cable for 30 minutes, if no dropouts you are good to go! I did this with my AppleTV direct to the TV. Using this test, the Monoprice 8K cables would start to flash after a few minutes. How did you run this test? Is there an TV App or did you play a file with InFuse or something like that? |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Jul 13, 2021 8:28:17 GMT -5
… The test procedure that HDfury recommends is running a 600MHz signal through the cable for 30 minutes, if no dropouts you are good to go! I did this with my AppleTV direct to the TV. Using this test, the Monoprice 8K cables would start to flash after a few minutes. How did you run this test? Is there an TV App or did you play a file with InFuse or something like that? Easy! Set the AppleTV to Dolby Vision Mode (meaning everything sent is in DV) and turn OFF frame matching (also setup 4:4:4 Chroma Sampling). The goal here is to slam the system with the highest bandwidth signal you can generate. In my case, I then checked the HDMI info on the Vertex2 to ensure the signal was what I wanted. You can also run the Cable test on the AppleTV, although I'm not sure what it does. Some of the other symptoms I had with the MonoPrice cables and the Longer Zeskit cables included, AppleTV would see the system was DV capable, but when choosing it, the picture would flash or blank out totally. The Zeskit cables failed right away, the MonoPrice cables would work and then not work... |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 13, 2021 11:21:01 GMT -5
How did you run this test? Is there an TV App or did you play a file with InFuse or something like that? Easy! Set the AppleTV to Dolby Vision Mode (meaning everything sent is in DV) and turn OFF frame matching (also setup 4:4:4 Chroma Sampling). The goal here is to slam the system with the highest bandwidth signal you can generate. In my case, I then checked the HDMI info on the Vertex2 to ensure the signal was what I wanted. You can also run the Cable test on the AppleTV, although I'm not sure what it does. Some of the other symptoms I had with the MonoPrice cables and the Longer Zeskit cables included, AppleTV would see the system was DV capable, but when choosing it, the picture would flash or blank out totally. The Zeskit cables failed right away, the MonoPrice cables would work and then not work... Ok, I’ve done all that for years except turn off frame rate matching (I’ll try it), it passed everything. But how does the “600MHz signal” you mentioned come into the test? Edit: I just re-ran the test with 4K/60 DV, Frame Rate matching off, 4:4:4 chroma. no problems, no flashing. This is with an 8’ Monoprice Ultra Slim (what I think they now call ‘Slim Certified) from TV to RMC-1, and 4’ same from RMC to Sony. If I get a chance I’ll try direct to TV. I’m not doubting that the Zeskit cables may be better, but this thread is about cables that have been tested to work well with the G3Ps, and I don’t think people should be worried that some cable might be better and they need to change theirs out. |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Jul 13, 2021 11:39:16 GMT -5
Easy! Set the AppleTV to Dolby Vision Mode (meaning everything sent is in DV) and turn OFF frame matching (also setup 4:4:4 Chroma Sampling). The goal here is to slam the system with the highest bandwidth signal you can generate. In my case, I then checked the HDMI info on the Vertex2 to ensure the signal was what I wanted. You can also run the Cable test on the AppleTV, although I'm not sure what it does. Some of the other symptoms I had with the MonoPrice cables and the Longer Zeskit cables included, AppleTV would see the system was DV capable, but when choosing it, the picture would flash or blank out totally. The Zeskit cables failed right away, the MonoPrice cables would work and then not work... Ok, I’ve done all that for years except turn off frame rate matching (I’ll try it), it passed everything. But how does the “600MHz signal” you mentioned come into the test? Most issues come into play when you try to pass the higher Mhz signal. This is 4K from my Tivo 4K59.938 420 BT2020 10b SDR 371MHz 2.2 This is 4K from my AppleTV (4K SDR) 4K59.938 444 BT709 8b SDR 593MHz 2.2 This is 4K AppleTV Netflix (4K Movie, DV and ATMOS), with Frame Match and Dynamic Range ON 4K24 422 BT2020 12b LLDV 297MHz 2.2 The test is to keep whatever is playing at the "600"Mhz rate. The reason I went with the HDFury stuff is that I can easily see what is being sent to the TV. Hope this makes sense! |
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Post by doc1963 on Jul 13, 2021 12:16:42 GMT -5
Easy! Set the AppleTV to Dolby Vision Mode (meaning everything sent is in DV) and turn OFF frame matching (also setup 4:4:4 Chroma Sampling). The goal here is to slam the system with the highest bandwidth signal you can generate. In my case, I then checked the HDMI info on the Vertex2 to ensure the signal was what I wanted. You can also run the Cable test on the AppleTV, although I'm not sure what it does. Some of the other symptoms I had with the MonoPrice cables and the Longer Zeskit cables included, AppleTV would see the system was DV capable, but when choosing it, the picture would flash or blank out totally. The Zeskit cables failed right away, the MonoPrice cables would work and then not work... Ok, I’ve done all that for years except turn off frame rate matching (I’ll try it), it passed everything. But how does the “600MHz signal” you mentioned come into the test? Edit: I just re-ran the test with 4K/60 DV, Frame Rate matching off, 4:4:4 chroma. no problems, no flashing. This is with an 8’ Monoprice Ultra Slim (what I think they now call ‘Slim Certified) from TV to RMC-1, and 4’ same from RMC to Sony. If I get a chance I’ll try direct to TV. I’m not doubting that the Zeskit cables may be better, but this thread is about cables that have been tested to work well with the G3Ps, and I don’t think people should be worried that some cable might be better and they need to change theirs out. I use those same Monoprice "Ultra Slim" Premium Certified cables (up to 5 feet) between all of my sources and RMC-1L. Then, a Ruipro 4K "Hybrid" FO cable on to my display (20 feet). I've never had an issue with them. They're thin, lightweight, easy on the HDMI ports and rock solid (at least for me)... |
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Post by LCSeminole on Sept 5, 2022 0:07:56 GMT -5
I’ve been using the Zeskit Maya 8K and while they just work, they are quite stiff in build. I received four of Emotiva’s new XHD8K 8K HDMI cables last Monday and they also just work but by far so much easier to work with. By far they are very flexible, the thinner, smooth all metal brass connectors that widen toward the cable allows for easy connection or dis-connect. The cable is just as thick as the Zeskit Maya HDMI but so much more flexible. These are now my HDMI 2.1/8K cable of choice, except for the CL3 in-wall rated Zeskit Maya 8K going from my Sony OLED to the RMC-1 that I need to use because of local building codes for outside walls. Again, nothing magical, they are just well built cables with a quality all brass connector and flexible cabling where the “0’s” and “1’s” successfully make it from one end to the other.  |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Sept 5, 2022 10:08:39 GMT -5
I’ve been using the Zeskit Maya 8K and while they just work, they are quite stiff in build. I received four of Emotiva’s new XHD8K 8K HDMI cables last Monday and they also just work but by far so much easier to work with. By far they are very flexible, the thinner, smooth all metal brass connectors that widen toward the cable allows for easy connection or dis-connect. The cable is just as thick as the Zeskit Maya HDMI but so much more flexible. These are now my HDMI 2.1/8K cable of choice, except for the CL3 in-wall rated Zeskit Maya 8K going from my Sony OLED to the RMC-1 that I need to use because of local building codes for outside walls. Again, nothing magical, they are just well built cables with a quality all brass connector and flexible cabling where the “0’s” and “1’s” successfully make it from one end to the other. Though I haven’t seen them, I like the ‘look and feel’ (as described) of the new Emotiva X series cables. A complete set of high performance, well made, well priced, no frills HDMI, XLR, Speaker, Power, Optical, Coax, RCA, the works. If I didn’t make my own (when I can) I’d consider a whole set of these. Consistent look, flexible, better than basic, but not exotic, glad to hear they’re as good as they look, nice job Emo! |
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Post by LCSeminole on Sept 5, 2022 10:26:19 GMT -5
If I need more XLR cables, I'd definitely give these a try as I like build quality and the connector. It looks like the all metal connectors are the same on the XLR and RCA cables, which I am quite partial to. I've been using Emotiva's XLR cables from their first XLR cable offerings up to their braided outer covering XLR cables. Since they still work well and haven't failed, I'll continue to use what I have for now.
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Post by cwt on Sept 6, 2022 1:39:16 GMT -5
But how does the “600MHz signal” you mentioned come into the test? It did sound familiar but couldnt put my finger on it either until I sussed this on hdmi extenders - its the timing clock rate .. The new Gefen UHD 600 MHz product family takes the HDMI 2.0 platform to its highest level by enabling AV distribution at full specification of 4K 60 Hz at 4:4:4 chroma subsampling, along with HDR support. High Dynamic Range (HDR) delivers greater contrast between light and dark areas of a video image, resulting in tremendous improvement in picture quality and color depth. 600 MHz TMDS Clock and 18 Gbps data throughput capability are standard on all models. |
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Post by hsamwel on Dec 12, 2022 13:21:03 GMT -5
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Post by AudioHTIT on Dec 14, 2022 11:56:59 GMT -5
Some time back I succumbed to the lure of thick HDMI 2.1 cables, I think it was mostly that little question in the back of your head wondering if HDMI switching might be a little faster (or the whiter whites, and brighter colors that the laundry detergent promised  ). I found some eight and four footers that I wanted in one brand and tried them. I can report that the ARISEN 8’ and 4’ cables work perfectly for me, and just as well as the Monoprice Ultra-Slim 4K cables I used previously — which is also to say, they don’t work any better. Pros — The Arisen cables have very nice, shiny metal connectors that have a platinum/goldish color. The thick cables covered in techflex look cooler than plain looking Monoprice Slims (I find Techflex covered cables also pull easier). If I ever did have an 8K source and display, these cables might handle the required bandwidth (I only say ‘might’ because I haven’t tested that). The Arisen’s are also reasonably priced and currently on sale. Cons — The thicker cables don’t flex as well and tend to be a bit tight given the same length as the Monoprice, which is to say with a thicker cable you may need a slightly longer length. Thicker cables also take up more space. Conclusion — To me the Monoprice Slim 4K HDMI cables are the value standard for 4K systems, they work perfectly and come in a nice variety of lengths (they’re also currently on sale). If you want to be ready for 2.1 and appreciate better quality connectors, techflex covering, and that ‘big cable’ look, the Arisen cables also work perfectly, and come in some less typical lengths. Here are a few photos, the first shows a side by side of the Monoprice and Arisen (the colored electrical tape is my doing).      |
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