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Post by Priapulus on Oct 10, 2019 16:13:43 GMT -5
I when I upgrade to the new XMC-2, I'll have many more channel possibilities.
Right now I have: 7.1
- l&r main, center, sub,
- l&r side,
- l&r rear.
1) Should I keep what I have, or move my 4 surround channels?
2) What do you recommend, if I go for six surround channels?
(I'm in a small room)
Sincerely
/b
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Post by novisnick on Oct 10, 2019 16:20:07 GMT -5
I when I upgrade to the new XMC-2, I'll have many more channel possibilities. Right now I have: 7.1 - l&r main, center, sub, - l&r side, - l&r rear. 1) Should I keep what I have, or move my surround channels? 2) What do you recommend, if I go for six surround channels? (I'm in a small room) Sincerely /b I highly recommend doing a 7.2.4 system. So, add a matching sub and four ceiling speakers and you’ll have a wonderful HT There'sno reason to move your surround speakers. My system surpasses my local theater! And the 🍿 and 🍹 are very reasonably priced! LOL 😂 |
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Post by davidl81 on Oct 10, 2019 16:27:13 GMT -5
I when I upgrade to the new XMC-2, I'll have many more channel possibilities. Right now I have: 7.1 - l&r main, center, sub, - l&r side, - l&r rear. 1) Should I keep what I have, or move my 4 surround channels? 2) What do you recommend, if I go for six surround channels? (I'm in a small room) Sincerely /b My room is fairly small and I am very happy with 7.2.4. IMO in a smaller room once you go beyond this you are really getting little return for your money. |
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Post by repeetavx on Oct 11, 2019 10:47:32 GMT -5
I say keep your 7.1 and add two ceiling speakers for 7.1.2. With an eye towards 7.2.4 in the future.
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Post by davidl81 on Oct 11, 2019 11:54:33 GMT -5
I say keep your 7.1 and add two ceiling speakers for 7.1.2. With an eye towards 7.2.4 in the future. The down side to this is placement of the two ceiling speakers, especially if he is cutting holes for the speakers. The placement for just two overhead speakers is different than where you would place four speakers. So if you do two overheads now you either place them in a sub optimal location, or you put yourself in a bind if you go to four overheads. |
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Post by emofrmcgy on Oct 11, 2019 12:14:07 GMT -5
I say keep your 7.1 and add two ceiling speakers for 7.1.2. With an eye towards 7.2.4 in the future. The down side to this is placement of the two ceiling speakers, especially if he is cutting holes for the speakers. The placement for just two overhead speakers is different than where you would place four speakers. So if you do two overheads now you either place them in a sub optimal location, or you put yourself in a bind if you go to four overheads. Or go to 6 overheads in the future.. |
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Post by repeetavx on Oct 11, 2019 22:38:36 GMT -5
Actually I was thinking of placing two in the places that they would go if you were to install four. Unbalanced as far as the full effect, but it would give you a taste. Six is even more amplifier channels.
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Post by Gary Cook on Oct 12, 2019 4:22:09 GMT -5
I say keep your 7.1 and add two ceiling speakers for 7.1.2. With an eye towards 7.2.4 in the future. The down side to this is placement of the two ceiling speakers, especially if he is cutting holes for the speakers. The placement for just two overhead speakers is different than where you would place four speakers. So if you do two overheads now you either place them in a sub optimal location, or you put yourself in a bind if you go to four overheads. There’s plenty of fun to be had with ceiling speakers, for example I currently have 2 permanent ceiling speakers placed inline with the room (not across it as Dolby suggests). I have the 4 ceiling outputs from the processor paralleled up so that they feed 2 amplifier channels, the L&R front ceiling outputs feed the front ceiling speaker and the L&R rear ceiling outputs feed the rear ceiling speaker. Obviously I have told the processor that I have 4 ceiling speakers so it decodes accordingly. As the room has cathedral ceilings they are mounted much higher than normal ceiling speakers so the sound dispersement is quite wide. I have tested 4 ceiling speakers (even 6 once) and the amount of sound effects and their directionality (in the movies I have tried so far) simply doesn’t sound much better, if at all, with more than 2 speakers in my room. So that’s the way it stays. Maybe at some time in the future sound tracks will get better and require more, but not so far, so that bridge can be crossed when it becomes relevant. Cheers Gary |
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Post by mgbpuff on Oct 12, 2019 8:05:48 GMT -5
The down side to this is placement of the two ceiling speakers, especially if he is cutting holes for the speakers. The placement for just two overhead speakers is different than where you would place four speakers. So if you do two overheads now you either place them in a sub optimal location, or you put yourself in a bind if you go to four overheads. There’s plenty of fun to be had with ceiling speakers, for example I currently have 2 permanent ceiling speakers placed inline with the room (not across it as Dolby suggests). I have the 4 ceiling outputs from the processor paralleled up so that they feed 2 amplifier channels, the L&R front ceiling outputs feed the front ceiling speaker and the L&R rear ceiling outputs feed the rear ceiling speaker. Obviously I have told the processor that I have 4 ceiling speakers so it decodes accordingly. As the room has cathedral ceilings they are mounted much higher than normal ceiling speakers so the sound dispersement is quite wide. I have tested 4 ceiling speakers (even 6 once) and the amount of sound effects and their directionality (in the movies I have tried so far) simply doesn’t sound much better, if at all, with more than 2 speakers in my room. So that’s the way it stays. Maybe at some time in the future sound tracks will get better and require more, but not so far, so that bridge can be crossed when it becomes relevant. Cheers Gary How do you accomplish the paralleling, as you can not just parallel two discrete channels together without some kind of summing circuit? |
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Post by Gary Cook on Oct 12, 2019 17:19:18 GMT -5
There’s plenty of fun to be had with ceiling speakers, for example I currently have 2 permanent ceiling speakers placed inline with the room (not across it as Dolby suggests). I have the 4 ceiling outputs from the processor paralleled up so that they feed 2 amplifier channels, the L&R front ceiling outputs feed the front ceiling speaker and the L&R rear ceiling outputs feed the rear ceiling speaker. Obviously I have told the processor that I have 4 ceiling speakers so it decodes accordingly. As the room has cathedral ceilings they are mounted much higher than normal ceiling speakers so the sound dispersement is quite wide. I have tested 4 ceiling speakers (even 6 once) and the amount of sound effects and their directionality (in the movies I have tried so far) simply doesn’t sound much better, if at all, with more than 2 speakers in my room. So that’s the way it stays. Maybe at some time in the future sound tracks will get better and require more, but not so far, so that bridge can be crossed when it becomes relevant. How do you accomplish the paralleling, as you can not just parallel two discrete channels together without some kind of summing circuit?  Cheers Gary |
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Post by davidl81 on Oct 12, 2019 18:19:30 GMT -5
How do you accomplish the paralleling, as you can not just parallel two discrete channels together without some kind of summing circuit? Cheers Gary Well yeah that would work.... |
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Post by cwt on Oct 13, 2019 4:30:00 GMT -5
I when I upgrade to the new XMC-2, I'll have many more channel possibilities. Right now I have: 7.1 - l&r main, center, sub, - l&r side, - l&r rear. (I'm in a small room) It really depends on your room measurements ;if you have a long room 4 ceilings for panning from front/back would suit . If your room is especially wide but not long a 9.1.2 may be appropriate[choose a 2 way with aimable tweeter and a proper back enclosure - so the driver has a known displacement to work with for the lower frequencies], front wides are especially efficacious for how our ears perceive sound ; sounds from the back not so much .. That said there are many bd's with 7.1 so rather than a mixdown occur its best to keep your back surrounds as that's where the engineer placed them. |
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Post by mgbpuff on Oct 13, 2019 6:27:20 GMT -5
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Post by Gary Cook on Oct 13, 2019 14:09:58 GMT -5
It (posting a picture of an XLR Y splitter) was the easiest way to answer the question, I didn't worry about gender. No tricks in the circuitry that I am aware of, just plug it in and it works. I grabbed a couple that I had lying around, used them for on stage microphone combinations, mixer/pre amp to amp connections. I figured they worked OK in that application they would work in testing ceiling speaker layouts. Cheers Gary |
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