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Post by garbulky on Dec 3, 2019 12:39:42 GMT -5
Any feedback on if it would be worth purchasing the 4k UHD disc of AD Astra and/or IT chapter 2 vs renting the blu ray?
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Post by stiehl11 on Dec 3, 2019 14:48:51 GMT -5
Do you have a UHD player and an ATMOS setup? If not, then go with the BD. In my experience ATMOS will not sound different if not using a ATMOS processor in a multi-speaker/axis listening environment. From there it comes down to picture: color and contrast. You will likely not notice the increased resolution going from 1080p to 2160p. To me, I enjoy the increased color gambit and contrast that 4k (w/HDR) allows.
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Post by dust770 on Dec 3, 2019 14:59:44 GMT -5
I can't speak to the technical merits of the 4k but my wife and I enjoyed IT2 at the theater. It wasn't as good as the first and was a little longer than it needed to be, but still entertaining. I will probably pick it up used after a few months pass
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Post by garbulky on Dec 3, 2019 15:51:21 GMT -5
dust770 I guess that's what I'm asking. Was the movie good and had great visuals to justify getting a 4k disc? stiehl11 I have a 4k capable setup tv/player etc but no ATMOS - 2 channel.
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Post by stiehl11 on Dec 3, 2019 17:34:47 GMT -5
stiehl11 I have a 4k capable setup tv/player etc but no ATMOS - 2 channel. Ok, I knew that you had your OLED but the BD player you have listed won't do 4k. So, that's why I questioned. While I do have several UHD titles, the majority of my library is still DVDs (a little over 1500 DVDs vs. about 400 BDs and only 22 UHDs). While they will never be as good as UHD discs, DVDs and BDs do me very well and my system (as well as others) do a good job of upscaling to the point where it's not a noticeable distraction. There are several factors I look at when determining what format I'm going to purchase a title on; the main one is will the experience benefit from what an upgraded format will offer (in the case of UHD: picture and sound). I have movies from the 50's thru the 80's that would not benefit from being on BD or UHD. So I don't waste my money on getting the upgraded format for that movie. So, a movie like IT2 will likely have lots of ambient objects in the sound field; it would be a good candidate for UHD. IT2 will likely have dark or low-light scenes that would take advantage of UHD's HDR capabilities and likely look awesome on a OLED. Still, if you're not entertained by the product on the screen then all of this would be moot. And for me, that's what would make the determining factor in owning a film versus renting one. If possible, see if you can rent or borrow a 4k copy from someone you know. That way if you like the product, you can buy it. And, you'll have a good idea of what to expect. Spending $25 on a movie that I could easily watch on a lower format for as low as $10 would give me heartache. I know you can rent BDs at the local Redbox so you can also go that route. It'll give you a good idea of the product and what the mix will offer. If it's something that you will likely watch again (and again, and again) look for the best price and give the 4k a shot. If it's a one and done or won't watch again for a very long time I would stick with renting/streaming until it shows up in the discount bin (can't tell you how many BD titles and 1 UHD title I've found for $5~$10). You'll come out ahead in the long run. |
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Post by garbulky on Dec 3, 2019 18:03:34 GMT -5
stiehl11 I have a 4k capable setup tv/player etc but no ATMOS - 2 channel. Ok, I knew that you had your OLED but the BD player you have listed won't do 4k. So, that's why I questioned. While I do have several UHD titles, the majority of my library is still DVDs (a little over 1500 DVDs vs. about 400 BDs and only 22 UHDs). While they will never be as good as UHD discs, DVDs and BDs do me very well and my system (as well as others) do a good job of upscaling to the point where it's not a noticeable distraction. There are several factors I look at when determining what format I'm going to purchase a title on; the main one is will the experience benefit from what an upgraded format will offer (in the case of UHD: picture and sound). I have movies from the 50's thru the 80's that would not benefit from being on BD or UHD. So I don't waste my money on getting the upgraded format for that movie. So, a movie like IT2 will likely have lots of ambient objects in the sound field; it would be a good candidate for UHD. IT2 will likely have dark or low-light scenes that would take advantage of UHD's HDR capabilities and likely look awesome on a OLED. Still, if you're not entertained by the product on the screen then all of this would be moot. And for me, that's what would make the determining factor in owning a film versus renting one. If possible, see if you can rent or borrow a 4k copy from someone you know. That way if you like the product, you can buy it. And, you'll have a good idea of what to expect. Spending $25 on a movie that I could easily watch on a lower format for as low as $10 would give me heartache. I know you can rent BDs at the local Redbox so you can also go that route. It'll give you a good idea of the product and what the mix will offer. If it's something that you will likely watch again (and again, and again) look for the best price and give the 4k a shot. If it's a one and done or won't watch again for a very long time I would stick with renting/streaming until it shows up in the discount bin (can't tell you how many BD titles and 1 UHD title I've found for $5~$10). You'll come out ahead in the long run. Sorry I didn't get around to updating it. It's a 4k HDR 10 UBP-X700 player. Unfortunately there are no places for me to rent a 4k. If it's a new movie, I either rent it on Blu ray or buy it on 4k. I rarely rewatch stuff. So what I've been doing lately is simply skipping a movie in theaters and making the decision to buy the 4k. But if it doesn't look like it would look amazing with a lot of action special effects or bright colors or the film isn't that great, I skip the 4k. Hence my asking. Has anybody seen Ad Astra? I've seen lots of mixed reviews. My OLED does have a weakness. Even though it has excellent true black. Since it lacks enough brightness, a movie with a lot of dim scenes simply feels "dark" for HDR. But a movie with dim scenes but also bright scenes looks just fine. On Blu-Ray the negative effect is far less pronounced as it feels a lot brighter with Blu-Ray probably because the dynamic range is less. |
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Post by dust770 on Dec 3, 2019 23:47:25 GMT -5
dust770 I guess that's what I'm asking. Was the movie good and had great visuals to justify getting a 4k disc? stiehl11 I have a 4k capable setup tv/player etc but no ATMOS - 2 channel. Hard for me to judge unfortunately, my local theaters are pretty lackluster in the sound and picture department. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Dec 4, 2019 8:40:39 GMT -5
My wife and I liked Ad Astra in the theatre, ours is pretty good. I remember it more for the psychology of the drama, and less for effects, but it was still well produced in both respects. I might buy it if it was on sale, but I’m not much of a collector.
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Post by gzubeck on Dec 10, 2019 16:19:48 GMT -5
Kind of funny whether something is worth 4k or just standard bluray. Bought the Blade Runner 4k plus bluray and compared them and the colors seemed so washed out in the bluray version. Bought the Rodgers and hammerstein boxed set and the blurays on these older movies are stellar for what I paid for on sale. Same goes for the hobbit and lord of the rings extended versions on bluray. Also, I purchased the new sony 4k bluray player 800xm2 for $200 and it was totally worth it in upconverting existing bluerays to 4k experience. If its a fairly good bluray transfer and you can get it for less than half the cost of 4k then go blueray. Another thing to consider is that some of the 4k blurays also have better audio. If they are cramming 7+ channels onto a normal 1080p bluray the audio might suffer. I also bought the greatest show on earth 4k and the picture and audio are stunning. I wouldn't go back to the 1080p bluray. So if the bluray is a very good transfer and they haven't crammed more than 5 channels on it some bluerays are very good. But then again when I'm getting certain titles in 4k for $10-15 on sale with both both discs you can't really lose. Hope this helps.
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Post by geebo on Dec 10, 2019 17:43:00 GMT -5
"It" in Dolby Vision is the most stunning example I've seen of HDR on my OLED. I hope to be watching It Chapter Two this weekend to see how it compares.
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Post by garbulky on Dec 10, 2019 18:47:20 GMT -5
"It" in Dolby Vision is the most stunning example I've seen of HDR on my OLED. I hope to be watching It Chapter Two this weekend to see how it compares. Wow! I had no idea. I have IT Chapter two waiting for me at the Amazon locker. Guess I am going to go pick it up tomorrow! |
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Post by geebo on Dec 10, 2019 18:53:22 GMT -5
"It" in Dolby Vision is the most stunning example I've seen of HDR on my OLED. I hope to be watching It Chapter Two this weekend to see how it compares. Wow! I had no idea. I have IT Chapter two waiting for me at the Amazon locker. Guess I am going to go pick it up tomorrow! Is your OLED DV capable? If not HDR-10 should still be plenty good. |
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Post by garbulky on Dec 10, 2019 18:59:09 GMT -5
Wow! I had no idea. I have IT Chapter two waiting for me at the Amazon locker. Guess I am going to go pick it up tomorrow! Is your OLED DV capable? If not HDR-10 should still be plenty good. It does not do Dolby Vision but it does do HDR-10. Having said that this OLED does not have enough power to truly display the dynamic range of HDR - though it does do a lovely job of Blu-ray's. 4k's still look great though. |
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Post by goodfellas27 on Dec 10, 2019 23:01:31 GMT -5
movie sucked
hard pass
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Post by garbulky on Dec 16, 2019 0:49:44 GMT -5
Watching IT Chapter 2. I'm not even halfway but I can already tell you the thing looks really good in 4k UHD. Nice HDR and use of color.
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