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Post by donh50 on Dec 13, 2019 18:34:49 GMT -5
Note on SSDs: faster, yes, but less reliable in the long term and more likely to fail unexpectedly based on my experience, or rather that of other folk in my company who live with them (we do enterprise storage stuff). That said, I have them, and love them, and all our workstations are SSD-equipped now. Be sure to use the optimization utility to disable certain Windows features that reduces SSD longevity and such. I am not a real computer guy so don't ask me, but lots of sites have articles on how to optimize for home use (I just used the utilities that came with the drives).
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Post by strindl on Dec 13, 2019 19:52:38 GMT -5
Note on SSDs: faster, yes, but less reliable in the long term and more likely to fail unexpectedly based on my experience, or rather that of other folk in my company who live with them (we do enterprise storage stuff). That said, I have them, and love them, and all our workstations are SSD-equipped now. Be sure to use the optimization utility to disable certain Windows features that reduces SSD longevity and such. I am not a real computer guy so don't ask me, but lots of sites have articles on how to optimize for home use (I just used the utilities that came with the drives). I've been using SSD drives exclusively as boot drives in all my computers, laptops and desktops, since 2012. I've never had one fail. The maintenance software that the manufacturers of each brand make available for download for their SSD drives, can check the drive for errors or defects. They also give an estimate of the life remaining on the drive. The very first SSD I bought and put into a new desktop build, has been running 24/7 since 2012 and the software shows it still has 97% of it's life remaining. I don't know how accurate that is, because I've never had one fail, but in my experience they are far more reliable than a spinning hard drive. On another note, anyone wanting to upgrade their Windows 7 or later PC to Windows 10, can still do it for free. Microsoft originally said they would allow the free upgrade for a year after the Windows 10 release, but you can still do it now. Here is a video from a computer professional in the Phoenix area who I have been following on youtube for years. He shows you how to do it. It takes a little time, but it works and it's gets you a legitimate upgrade to windows 10. www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5CI66En2Xg&t=47s |
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Post by MusicHead on Dec 13, 2019 20:08:16 GMT -5
Note on SSDs: faster, yes, but less reliable in the long term and more likely to fail unexpectedly based on my experience, or rather that of other folk in my company who live with them (we do enterprise storage stuff). That said, I have them, and love them, and all our workstations are SSD-equipped now. Be sure to use the optimization utility to disable certain Windows features that reduces SSD longevity and such. I am not a real computer guy so don't ask me, but lots of sites have articles on how to optimize for home use (I just used the utilities that came with the drives). I've been using SSD drives exclusively as boot drives in all my computers, laptops and desktops, since 2012. I've never had one fail. The maintenance software that the manufacturers of each brand make available for download for their SSD drives, can check the drive for errors or defects. They also give an estimate of the life remaining on the drive. The very first SSD I bought and put into a new desktop build, has been running 24/7 since 2012 and the software shows it still has 97% of it's life remaining. I don't know how accurate that is, because I've never had one fail, but in my experience they are far more reliable than a spinning hard drive. On another note, anyone wanting to upgrade their Windows 7 or later PC to Windows 10, can still do it for free. Microsoft originally said they would allow the free upgrade for a year after the Windows 10 release, but you can still do it now. Here is a video from a computer professional in the Phoenix area who I have been following on youtube for years. He shows you how to do it. It takes a little time, but it works and it's gets you a legitimate upgrade to windows 10. www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5CI66En2Xg&t=47sThis forum has a great tutorial on how upgrade from Win7 to Win10, for those that are more into written instructions. Same process you described. www.tenforums.com/tutorials/139745-upgrade-windows-10-windows-7-free.htmlJust few weeks ago we purchased a new laptop to replace our seven year old Acer 17" we keep in the kitchen area as a second family computer. I got a Dell with a 512GB SSD and it boots freakishly fast, 15 seconds from pushing the power button to the full Win10 desktop 😁. This is a cold boot, not resuming from sleep. The old computer, with Win7, a regular HDD and bogged down by years and years of software installs, takes about three minutes... Just for fun, I may try the Win7 to Win10 upgrade. On my own Samsung 12" laptop, with an ancient i3 processor and just 4GB RAM, I have Win7 and Linux Mint in a Dual Boot configuration. The difference in performance between the two is astonishing. |
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Post by novisnick on Dec 14, 2019 2:10:22 GMT -5
“The end is near!” again, this time they say it’s true. The end of support comes January 14, 2020. 😱 If you’re still using it, as I am for system #2, what will you do? Are you going to Windows 10? Have you already done so? Do you like it? What was the learning curve? Can you set it up to run like 7? If not Windows 10, then what. Needless to say that I found 7 so easy to navigate and use. Nick- Win 10 is a power hog & has so much 'stuff' running in the background that is unnecessary but you can turn off. search "what to do after installing win 10" and you will find how to streamline it. Microsoft has stuck their nose into you life with it being Microsoft Store centric- turn it off. Thanks so much, when I first looked at win 10 I could see the snooping blatantly! Geezzz! I know they all do it but Damn! Wish I had a link to turn all the BS off. thanks again! Merry Christmas 🎅 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 2:25:29 GMT -5
Good to read a post from you ChuckieNut! I am glad you are well pal. Trey Thanks much Trey.! Into my 5th year with CHF, stable ascending aortic aneurysm, 25th yr of permanent a-fib, on 9 heart meds, but lost 50 lbs since March and feel so much better. Think I'm 40 yrs old and more energy than the Energizer Bunny!   |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 2:44:46 GMT -5
I bought a hp 17-by1023cl and am slowly moving logins and passwords over from my win 7 laptop. I will be the first to admit that I am very technology dumb but I cannot figure win 10 out. Seems everything is hidden and I cannot find it. I hit the start button and do a search and it finds it but I have no idea where it is in the software.
I hate change and get frustrated with new things. I know I am old. I could very easily live with my old Motorola silver flip phone.
Mark
See I can't even get a link to work.  I am right there with you. My wife is Japanese. When we first met I had one of my first PC's. I was constantly irritated due to my lack of any computer training/classes. She learned all of her new found English cuss words from me when at my computer. She got better as the year passed at polite English. Then a little over a year ago I bought my first dumb smart phone. I still can't do anything on it except takes photos (actually nice quality) and call her when she is in Japan on the free video apps (Duo and Line). When home now she is learning some more bad words, much worse than before. Who the hell ever decided to call them smart phones?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 10:00:13 GMT -5
Donh
I don't see how a mechanical drive is more reliable than electronic drive. How often does RAM fail? or the MB?
If man makes it, it will break sooner or later. Some people are going to gripe about anything.
The advantage of SSD over HDD far out-weighs the negatives.
The fact that Windows no longers needs to be de-frag'd tells me all I need to know about the Windows OS and where it resides.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 10:16:37 GMT -5
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Post by donh50 on Dec 14, 2019 23:49:01 GMT -5
Donh I don't see how a mechanical drive is more reliable than electronic drive. How often does RAM fail? or the MB? If man makes it, it will break sooner or later. Some people are going to gripe about anything. The advantage of SSD over HDD far out-weighs the negatives. The fact that Windows no longers needs to be de-frag'd tells me all I need to know about the Windows OS and where it resides. It's not the mechanical side, though they are pretty robust and proven in HDDs, it is the underlying bit cell technology. The cell lifetime of SSDs (the bit cells) are generally more limited in life than the bit cells on a HDD. There is a lot of redundancy built into SSDs, and fairly sophisticated electronics in the drive to load balance among the cells. BTW, that takes the place of the defrag utilities, which can actually upset the built-in load balancing and degrade the SSD's performance and longevity. It is no longer defragmenting but a related scheme and it runs in the background whenever the SSD is on. You (the OS) don't defrag, the drive does, and you better not mess with it. It works very well (after some years of dialing it in) and is one of those hidden technology features that has made SSDs robust enough for mainstream use. There have been a number of articles about various magnetic technologies vs. the charge cells in the SSD drives and reliability. Bear in mind that, while I work in the computer arena (SerDes), I am an analog engineer, and not directly involved with drives except to test a controller with them now and then. My info comes from coworkers, various industry reports, the IEEE Journal, etc. I am no drive expert; I am hearing from our customers in the enterprise market (think thousands, hundreds of thousands of drives). I have them and have been happy with them though have seen a few failures among consumers (e.g. my son's PC and that of coworkers). Since I am in the HW side of the industry (albeit, again, as an analog guy) I may have seen more than the usual number of issues. And yes HDDs have their share of problems, but in fact I had two SSDs fail in a notebook in less than a year (the last one is still going strong). I am not griping, just relating the industry data based in the information I have. I know at least one company that routinely replaces SSDs after three years, HDD after five, and I am pretty sure they would like to retain those SSDs longer! They like them for their speed. SSDs are improving fairly rapidly though still lag HDDs for density, long-term reliability, and generally require more power (a problem in an enterprise environment where thermal management is a bear). They also cost more per bit and are not available in nearly as high density. SSDs are much faster than HDDs and over time I expect their lack of moving parts will win in the reliability department -- once they figure out how to make the technology a bit more robust (no pun intended). Again, not my primary field, and I have seen great progress in the past ten years or so as SSDs go mainstream. BTW, you might be surprised at the number of DRAM errors, and how many system crashes and strange behavior are caused by them. I certainly was a few years ago when I happened to research it a bit. Redundancy and error checking/correction, also a feature of drives (HDD and SSD), mostly hides them from us -- thankfully! IME most motherboard (and video board) failures are caused by "cheap" capacitors and over-temp conditions. Most often it is the power supply or decoupling that fails somewhere inside. |
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Post by drtrey3 on Dec 16, 2019 8:40:41 GMT -5
Yes sir, still using the Rorschach and outdated software!
Merry Christmas!
Trey
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