If I ever catch up with the "engineer"...

[Boomzilla]

...that invented the HDMI connection, there WILL BE BLOOD!

[Casey Leedom]

I assume that you're referring to the abortion of a Physical HDMI Connector, right? I agree with you in all ways.

Casey

[DYohn]

Emotiva has cables on closeout, grab some X-Series HDMI cables. They work great.

[routlaw]

I've had great luck with the HDMI cables from Blue Jeans as well

[Boomzilla]

It isn't the cable quality that I object to. It's the connector. There's just enough play in the design that the HDMI plug can easily come out or tilt to one side or another in its socket, either of which cause a loss of function. Since the HDMI cables aren't the only ones dangling behind the equipment rack, every time that I move the rack (it seems) I partially dislodge the TV cable box to monitor connection. This is followed shortly by an irritated call from the boss, wanting her TV to work right again. The cause is in the connector design. And don't jerk me around saying that you never have the problem. The point is that I do - and it's because of the shoddy design of the HDMI plug and socket. The connector should have been designed with a secure locking mechanism that prevented accidental decoupling or side-to-side skew. But to save two cents or so per connector, the AV industry selected this sucks-eggs design.

Although I might be able to control the connector friction to some extent with the cables you mention, a good cable does nothing at all to address the cheap, sloppy-fit sockets on my Samsung TV. As I said, should I ever encounter the jerk(s) responsible for this connector, you'll probably get to read about me in the paper for having committed gruesome murder(s).

Bah Humbug

[creimes]

My PC setup uses Display port which is soooo much better.

Chad

[audiobill]

More Home Theater “ technology”,.

[Gary Cook]

A friend of mine, professional installer, uses something like these; 

I have just cable tied all of my HDMI cables together just before they plug into the XMC-1.  Strength in numbers thinking.  The outputs from the sources are cable tied to the supports for the rack shelves. I don't change mine very often, so snipping a cable tie or 2 occasionally isn't a big deal.


Cheers
Gary

[klinemj]

Dec 14, 2019 20:00:43 GMT -5 Boomzilla said:

It isn't the cable quality that I object to. It's the connector. There's just enough play in the design that the HDMI plug can easily come out or tilt to one side or another in its socket, either of which cause a loss of function. Since the HDMI cables aren't the only ones dangling behind the equipment rack, every time that I move the rack (it seems) I partially dislodge the TV cable box to monitor connection. This is followed shortly by an irritated call from the boss, wanting her TV to work right again. The cause is in the connector design. And don't jerk me around saying that you never have the problem. The point is that I do - and it's because of the shoddy design of the HDMI plug and socket. The connector should have been designed with a secure locking mechanism that prevented accidental decoupling or side-to-side skew. But to save two cents or so per connector, the AV industry selected this sucks-eggs design.

Although I might be able to control the connector friction to some extent with the cables you mention, a good cable does nothing at all to address the cheap, sloppy-fit sockets on my Samsung TV. As I said, should I ever encounter the jerk(s) responsible for this connector, you'll probably get to read about me in the paper for having committed gruesome murder(s).

Bah Humbug

I honestly don't mean to jerk you around, but I've never had this on any HDMI connector ever...cable STB to TV, STB to AVR or a pre-pro, ROKU devices to TV's, other things. I find mine all to be nice and snug. And, I've been using HDMI for a long time.

Do you have this on every HDMI connection you us or just certain cables or certain sources/end points?

Mark

[martindktm]

I have the same thought about the guy that invented the flat head screw... Even if he's already dead... If there's something after life... He's going to have a hard time with me... @#$%$%?$%&&&#%?&?*&?&@$%?.

[emofrmcgy]

I don't have this issue.. maybe it's the low quality cables you're using, try using one that doesn't weigh more than the device it's plugged into.

I use these and in my opinion HDMI is the best connector I've used next to XLR.

www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=24187

Now if I can ever sit down with the engineer at ford that decided to use all aluminum in the "new" trucks I have some choice words for that clown... If you're gonna rivet and glue a truck together, at least do it in a manner that makes sense when the bloody thing needs to be repaired.

[adaboy]

Yeah Boom, I see broken HDMI cables all the time. Sometimes one of my guys removing a TV pulls before disconnecting the darn thing and just as smooth as butter on a warm country day the connection gets bent or pulled off.

[405x5]

Dec 14, 2019 16:17:03 GMT -5 Boomzilla said:

...that invented the HDMI connection, there WILL BE BLOOD!

HDMI technology SHOULD have been adopted into a DIN type connector, and seemed to me could have been infinitely more rugged, compact and durable equally for both the inputs and the cable itself.....

HDMI(in its current form) is the ultimate expression of sticking a square peg in a round hole.

Bill

[Boomzilla]

Dec 14, 2019 21:44:34 GMT -5 klinemj said:

I honestly don't mean to jerk you around, but I've never had this on any HDMI connector ever...cable STB to TV, STB to AVR or a pre-pro, ROKU devices to TV's, other things. I find mine all to be nice and snug. And, I've been using HDMI for a long time.

Do you have this on every HDMI connection you us or just certain cables or certain sources/end points?

Mark

Hi klinemj -

Yes - This happens on EVERY cable I've ever used. Most of the time, the connections at the source device stay put (although I've had those come apart & skew also), but the worst problem is at the Samsung monitor box. It has a proprietary plug to the TV and four HDMI inputs. Since I'm ALWAYS having to change audio and digital cables behind the equipment stand, and because I have to roll the stand out every time to do it, there's a high probability that one or more of the HDMI connections will become disconnected or skewed every time the stand is moved. Yes, the HDMI cables are long enough, but that's a double-edged sword. The extra cable increases the probability that another cable will entangle or dislodge the HDMI ones.

I could "fix" this problem (for the most part) by dressing all cables behind the rack so that they couldn't impinge on the HDMI connections. But this is also impractical because of the frequent (every two weeks to every month) substitutions of equipment to be tested or reviewed.

So ultimately, the shoddy design of the HDMI connector just happens to be a much greater problem to me than it would be to most others. It still doesn't make the design a good one nor does it reduce my enmity toward those who designed and approved the standard.

Boom

[Casey Leedom]

I'm with you Boomzilla, the HDMI connector deserves death to all engineers who participated in its design. Freaking stupid beyond all belief. I've been involved with High-Bandwidth Ethernet for years. Nothing comes close to the moron-"designed" piece of stupidity that is the HDMI connector.

Casey

[klinemj]

Dec 15, 2019 2:30:04 GMT -5 Boomzilla said:

Yes - This happens on EVERY cable I've ever used. Most of the time, the connections at the source device stay put (although I've had those come apart & skew also), but the worst problem is at the Samsung monitor box.

That is so bizarre. I would think it would happen to me at least once, but...never. The only issue I've had is that one 10m HDMI cable went bad and stopped working. And, I'd not moved anything, and there was no visible damage.

Mark

[Boomzilla]

Luck counts...

But I also think that the Samsung box also has looser-than-average sockets.

[mgbpuff]

There is no single engineer responsible for the HDMI connectors. It was designed by committee chaired by a non engineer (most likely). There seems to be a lot of bias against engineers in this country as exampled by the internet tv series, Engineering Disasters. Engineering achievements are seldom discussed.

[405x5]

Dec 15, 2019 8:39:54 GMT -5 mgbpuff said:

There is no single engineer responsible for the HDMI connectors. It was designed by committee chaired by a non engineer (most likely). There seems to be a lot of bias against engineers in this country as exampled by the internet tv series, Engineering Disasters. Engineering achievements are seldom discussed.

Yes indeed....taken for granted when they work.

Bill

[SteveH]

Dec 14, 2019 21:44:34 GMT -5 klinemj said:

Dec 14, 2019 20:00:43 GMT -5 Boomzilla said:

It isn't the cable quality that I object to. It's the connector. There's just enough play in the design that the HDMI plug can easily come out or tilt to one side or another in its socket, either of which cause a loss of function. Since the HDMI cables aren't the only ones dangling behind the equipment rack, every time that I move the rack (it seems) I partially dislodge the TV cable box to monitor connection. This is followed shortly by an irritated call from the boss, wanting her TV to work right again. The cause is in the connector design. And don't jerk me around saying that you never have the problem. The point is that I do - and it's because of the shoddy design of the HDMI plug and socket. The connector should have been designed with a secure locking mechanism that prevented accidental decoupling or side-to-side skew. But to save two cents or so per connector, the AV industry selected this sucks-eggs design.

Although I might be able to control the connector friction to some extent with the cables you mention, a good cable does nothing at all to address the cheap, sloppy-fit sockets on my Samsung TV. As I said, should I ever encounter the jerk(s) responsible for this connector, you'll probably get to read about me in the paper for having committed gruesome murder(s).

Bah Humbug

I honestly don't mean to jerk you around, but I've never had this on any HDMI connector ever...cable STB to TV, STB to AVR or a pre-pro, ROKU devices to TV's, other things. I find mine all to be nice and snug. And, I've been using HDMI for a long time.

Do you have this on every HDMI connection you us or just certain cables or certain sources/end points?

Mark

All of my HDMI connections are a very positive fit as well.  Some are even tighter than I expect them to be.  I did add TC-92 saddle ties to the back of my cabinet so I can tie the cables/cable bundles to them and provide strain relief for all of my cable connections.  You can either tie the curved side to round objects and tie the cable(s) to the flat side, or screw the flat side to the cabinet and tie the cable(s) in the curved side.