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Post by emofrmcgy on Dec 19, 2019 21:32:01 GMT -5
I'm seeing a lot of recommendation for the hdfury... But I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around what exactly it does. "I thought" (a couple years ago) it was for removing HDCP restrictions (which I didn't have an issue with) apparently that's incorrect. Why would I want to add another device to my signal chain that is processing the signal, doesn't it degrade ? Isn't the AVR or prepro "supposed" to do ALL the processing? If it doesn't, isn't it not performing it's main purpose ?
Please enlighten me.
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Post by thrillcat on Dec 19, 2019 22:42:47 GMT -5
I'm seeing a lot of recommendation for the hdfury... But I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around what exactly it does. "I thought" (a couple years ago) it was for removing HDCP restrictions (which I didn't have an issue with) apparently that's incorrect. Why would I want to add another device to my signal chain that is processing the signal, doesn't it degrade ? Isn't the AVR or prepro "supposed" to do ALL the processing? If it doesn't, isn't it not performing it's main purpose ? Please enlighten me. HD Fury is the brand. They have several models of HDMI devices that serve various purposes. They can do a lot of things. |
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Post by emofrmcgy on Dec 19, 2019 22:57:59 GMT -5
I'm seeing a lot of recommendation for the hdfury... But I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around what exactly it does. "I thought" (a couple years ago) it was for removing HDCP restrictions (which I didn't have an issue with) apparently that's incorrect. Why would I want to add another device to my signal chain that is processing the signal, doesn't it degrade ? Isn't the AVR or prepro "supposed" to do ALL the processing? If it doesn't, isn't it not performing it's main purpose ? Please enlighten me. HD Fury is the brand. They have several models of HDMI devices that serve various purposes. They can do a lot of things. Oh you're still here..😁 I was reading the website and didn't quite comprehend why it would be desirable to process the signal AGAIN, so figured I'd ask someone smrter than I. |
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Post by thrillcat on Dec 19, 2019 23:05:07 GMT -5
Can’t break the habit.
I have a Vertex which I plan to eventually program to read HR metadata so it can automatically select presets on my JVC projector to adjust for different gamma levels. Poor man’s “tone mapping”.
They also have models that are used for keeping two monitors connected simultaneously and not having to dumb down to the lowest common denominator.
I don’t know if they actually do any video manipulation. It’s my understanding that they are primarily manipulating metadata to make your devices more easily compatible.
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Post by emofrmcgy on Dec 19, 2019 23:08:24 GMT -5
Ok.. that makes more sense.
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Post by mgbpuff on Dec 20, 2019 9:53:17 GMT -5
When they first started they had a product which removed HDCP from the signal for the purpose of allowing a conversion of digital to analog video signal. I had this product and it allowed me to enjoy HD video on my very expensive Mitsubishi analog HD television for some 13 years after the analog flag was set and all ensuing DVD and BR players were outlawed from providing analog outputs. They were taken to court and their product was no longer allowed to be sold in the U.S. Since then analog tvs have all but disappeared and their products now address HDMI interoperation (without removing HDCP) and video format conversions involving metadata differences in HR, color parameters, and, even as thrillcat stated, color/intensity mapping. They also both upscale and downscale video and allow 2 different displays to view the same input at the same time with out reducing performance to either (the common denominator effect is eliminated). Basically they present EDID maps to fool devices into operation and then the HDFury device controls the flow through. Their products do not affect the audio portion of the sound except to provide a sound output (with blank video) over HDMI that any AVR or prepro can process. The video portion can then go directly to the displays. CEC, ARC and eARC can also be managed better.
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Post by thrillcat on Dec 20, 2019 10:18:30 GMT -5
When they first started they had a product which removed HDCP from the signal for the purpose of allowing a conversion of digital to analog video signal. I had this product and it allowed me to enjoy HD video on my very expensive Mitsubishi analog HD television for some 13 years after the analog flag was set and all ensuing DVD and BR players were outlawed from providing analog outputs. They were taken to court and their product was no longer allowed to be sold in the U.S. Since then analog tvs have all but disappeared and their products now address HDMI interoperation (without removing HDCP) and video format conversions involving metadata differences in HR, color parameters, and, even as thrillcat stated, color/intensity mapping. They also both upscale and downscale video and allow 2 different displays to view the same input at the same time with out reducing performance to either (the common denominator effect is eliminated). Basically they present EDID maps to fool devices into operation and then the HDFury device controls the flow through. Their products do not affect the audio portion of the sound except to provide a sound output (with blank video) over HDMI that any AVR or prepro can process. The video portion can then go directly to the displays. CEC, ARC and eARC can also be managed better. He’s better at this than me. All of this answer. I’m new to HD Fury, but there’s a definite value in what they’re offering. |
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Post by bootman on Dec 20, 2019 11:19:31 GMT -5
HDFury. The HDMI cheat code.  |
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Post by mgbpuff on Dec 20, 2019 11:47:58 GMT -5
HDFury. The HDMI cheat code. HDMI transcoding between HDMI 1.1 through HDMI2.0b or whatever is legal, not cheating. HDCP is preserved. Upscaling and downscaling and other metadata manipulations are also legal. |
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Post by bootman on Dec 20, 2019 13:44:43 GMT -5
HDFury. The HDMI cheat code. HDMI transcoding between HDMI 1.1 through HDMI2.0b or whatever is legal, not cheating. HDCP is preserved. Upscaling and downscaling and other metadata manipulations are also legal. You are correct. I should have said hack vs cheat. HDCP 2.2 was not meant to be backward compatible with HDCP 1.4. Thus this device was made to address this. While not illegal it does "hack" its way around that limitation. |
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