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Post by simpleman68 on May 12, 2020 16:33:14 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth it to burn my blu ray and 4K discs to a storage device to access in the theater. (90% blu ray and 10% 4K)
I would like to burn them without any additional compression for full quality but I know that takes up a gob of space.
I have about 1,000 movies for starters but could cull it down to half that if value/budget dictates.
As a total noob, any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Scott
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Post by creimes on May 12, 2020 17:01:06 GMT -5
It may in the end be easier when watching/picking out a movie, for example Plex builds a nice library that is seamless to go through on ones device, but also all the time and effort of ripping all the discs is also a lot of work. You would need a good size NAS to do that many movies, most likely a 4 bay with 8 or 10tb drives depending on what Raid you went with.
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Post by geebo on May 12, 2020 17:02:08 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth it to burn my blu ray and 4K discs to a storage device to access in the theater. (90% blu ray and 10% 4K)
I would like to burn them without any additional compression for full quality but I know that takes up a gob of space. I have about 1,000 movies for starters but could cull it down to half that if value/budget dictates. As a total noob, any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Scott
Doable but a time consuming task for 1,000 movies. You could get roughly 250 - 300 blu rays on 10TB so you'd need about 40 or 50TB or more considering the 4K discs. This being uncompressed and with full menus and extras. Each blu ray would take about an hour to rip. |
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Post by simpleman68 on May 12, 2020 17:19:54 GMT -5
It may in the end be easier when watching/picking out a movie, for example Plex builds a nice library that is seamless to go through on ones device, but also all the time and effort of ripping all the discs is also a lot of work. You would need a good size NAS to do that many movies, most likely a 4 bay with 8 or 10tb drives depending on what Raid you went with. Chad The work to rip them all would be considerable it seems. Wonder what prices are on a rig to get started. I am not a computer guy by any stretch but my brother works with this stuff all the time and would be helpful to get me up and running. Scott
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Post by klinemj on May 12, 2020 17:20:49 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth it to burn my blu ray and 4K discs to a storage device to access in the theater. (90% blu ray and 10% 4K)
I would like to burn them without any additional compression for full quality but I know that takes up a gob of space. I have about 1,000 movies for starters but could cull it down to half that if value/budget dictates. As a total noob, any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Scott
I started down that road last year - also as a total noob to ripping. I researched a lot, a lot of folks here helped me...so I got all the gear I needed and started ripping. At first, it looked like things were working well...I ripped a few, tested them out, and they worked fine. So, I ripped about 10-15 more disks - and it turned out that ~1/3 rips had some major issue. In the worst case, what looked like a full rip would only show the menu then nothing would play. And, it was taking a lot of time. I decided to punt and returned most of the gear. I only kept the 10 TB HD because I needed another HD anyway. Mark |
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Post by simpleman68 on May 12, 2020 17:20:53 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth it to burn my blu ray and 4K discs to a storage device to access in the theater. (90% blu ray and 10% 4K)
I would like to burn them without any additional compression for full quality but I know that takes up a gob of space. I have about 1,000 movies for starters but could cull it down to half that if value/budget dictates. As a total noob, any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Scott
Doable but a time consuming task for 1,000 movies. You could get roughly 250 - 300 blu rays on 10TB so you'd need about 40 or 50TB or more considering the 4K discs. This being uncompressed and with full menus and extras. Each blu ray would take about an hour to rip. A great point; I'd be happy to rip just the movie without all the extras. I almost never watch those and could always slap in the physical disc if so desired. Still, I'm guessing that much storage is pricey? Scott
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Post by gus4emo on May 12, 2020 17:27:14 GMT -5
Doable but a time consuming task for 1,000 movies. You could get roughly 250 - 300 blu rays on 10TB so you'd need about 40 or 50TB or more considering the 4K discs. This being uncompressed and with full menus and extras. Each blu ray would take about an hour to rip. A great point; I'd be happy to rip just the movie without all the extras. I almost never watch those and could always slap in the physical disc if so desired. Still, I'm guessing that much storage is pricey? Scott
Can you just get up, get the disc out and put it in the player....lol.. |
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Post by megash0n on May 12, 2020 17:44:54 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth it to burn my blu ray and 4K discs to a storage device to access in the theater. (90% blu ray and 10% 4K)
I would like to burn them without any additional compression for full quality but I know that takes up a gob of space.
I have about 1,000 movies for starters but could cull it down to half that if value/budget dictates.
As a total noob, any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Scott
Anydvd will create your disc images with or without encryption. You will find that many 4k discs are still not able to be read by decryption software. So, good luck there. If you truly want original quality, I recommend something like MakeMKV that will allow you to create a MKV file "repackaging" only the content you want. This will strip 10 - 20 percent of the storage size. I like JRiver as media player and DLNA server. |
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Post by geebo on May 12, 2020 17:46:43 GMT -5
Doable but a time consuming task for 1,000 movies. You could get roughly 250 - 300 blu rays on 10TB so you'd need about 40 or 50TB or more considering the 4K discs. This being uncompressed and with full menus and extras. Each blu ray would take about an hour to rip. A great point; I'd be happy to rip just the movie without all the extras. I almost never watch those and could always slap in the physical disc if so desired. Still, I'm guessing that much storage is pricey? Scott
I only rip music/concert blu rays and leave the movies alone. Probably have about 75 to 100 discs stored on an 8TB drive that's about half full right now but I rip the entire disc. A 10 TB drive can be had for a couple hundred bucks. And what about backups should a drive go bad? I guess a RAID array would be the way to go. |
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Post by foggy1956 on May 12, 2020 18:06:46 GMT -5
I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's worth it to burn my blu ray and 4K discs to a storage device to access in the theater. (90% blu ray and 10% 4K)
I would like to burn them without any additional compression for full quality but I know that takes up a gob of space.
I have about 1,000 movies for starters but could cull it down to half that if value/budget dictates.
As a total noob, any help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Scott
Anydvd will create your disc images with or without encryption. You will find that many 4k discs are still not able to be read by decryption software. So, good luck there. If you truly want original quality, I recommend something like MakeMKV that will allow you to create a MKV file "repackaging" only the content you want. This will strip 10 - 20 percent of the storage size. I like JRiver as media player and DLNA server. Haven't tried yet but will make.mkv do 4k? |
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Post by foggy1956 on May 12, 2020 18:11:21 GMT -5
It may in the end be easier when watching/picking out a movie, for example Plex builds a nice library that is seamless to go through on ones device, but also all the time and effort of ripping all the discs is also a lot of work. You would need a good size NAS to do that many movies, most likely a 4 bay with 8 or 10tb drives depending on what Raid you went with. Chad The work to rip them all would be considerable it seems. Wonder what prices are on a rig to get started. I am not a computer guy by any stretch but my brother works with this stuff all the time and would be helpful to get me up and running. Scott
I don't have nearly that many but it sure is nice having them as close as my remote ☺ |
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Post by megash0n on May 12, 2020 18:28:18 GMT -5
Anydvd will create your disc images with or without encryption. You will find that many 4k discs are still not able to be read by decryption software. So, good luck there. If you truly want original quality, I recommend something like MakeMKV that will allow you to create a MKV file "repackaging" only the content you want. This will strip 10 - 20 percent of the storage size. I like JRiver as media player and DLNA server. Haven't tried yet but will make.mkv do 4k? I don't see why it wouldn't as long as it is no longer encrypted. |
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Post by Casey Leedom on May 12, 2020 18:36:16 GMT -5
So Scott, what are your goals?
If it's to make it easier to start a movie, I think that the time to do all of the RIP'ing and the cost/complexity of the equipment might make the calculus bad ...
f it's to reduce the sale that all the BluRays and 4K titles take up in their boxes, etc., you could do what I've done and put all of the disks in giant "CD Wallets" (320 Disks/Book) and create a simple Spread Sheet alphabetized by Title showing which (Book, Slot) each is in. I've thrown away all of the boxes because I don't have storage space, but if you do, you could save them somewhere else.
Casey
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Post by doc1963 on May 12, 2020 19:10:42 GMT -5
...Haven't tried yet but will make.mkv do 4k? As long as you have a “UHD Friendly” Blu-ray drive... yes... and it will retain HDR and Atmos metadata. It’s yet to be officially announced, but MakeMKV now also supports dual layer Dolby Vision. ”Player” support is still a work in progress... |
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Post by foggy1956 on May 12, 2020 20:15:21 GMT -5
...Haven't tried yet but will make.mkv do 4k? As long as you have a “UHD Friendly” Blu-ray drive... yes... and it will retain HDR and Atmos metadata. It’s yet to be officially announced, but MakeMKV now also supports dual layer Dolby Vision. ”Player” support is still a work in progress... Sounds like I'll be building a 4k htpc this fall |
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Post by creimes on May 12, 2020 20:20:29 GMT -5
For any discs I have ripped I use Make MKV and rip only the main feature, otherwise it's easy enough to put the disc into the cheap LG Bluray I have haha.
Chad
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Post by yeeeha17 on May 12, 2020 20:38:07 GMT -5
Not worth it. I did this many years ago. It was a waste of time and money. I have a bunch of HD sitting around not getting use because we have all the streaming services that have most of my movies. The only thing I would probably rip is music/concert videos now.
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Post by megash0n on May 12, 2020 21:02:15 GMT -5
As long as you have a “UHD Friendly” Blu-ray drive... yes... and it will retain HDR and Atmos metadata. It’s yet to be officially announced, but MakeMKV now also supports dual layer Dolby Vision. ”Player” support is still a work in progress... Sounds like I'll be building a 4k htpc this fall Look into MadVR for video up conversion and improvements. You'll want to get a decent video card for this. It is the best set of algorithms in my opinion. MadVR works with many pieces of software like JRiver, MPC, etc. Use that and LAV Filters. |
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Post by foggy1956 on May 12, 2020 21:21:16 GMT -5
Sounds like I'll be building a 4k htpc this fall Look into MadVR for video up conversion and improvements. You'll want to get a decent video card for this. It is the best set of algorithms in my opinion. MadVR works with many pieces of software like JRiver, MPC, etc. Use that and LAV Filters. Currently running Red October in 1080p |
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Post by stiehl11 on May 13, 2020 9:27:32 GMT -5
I use DVDFab for my ripping program. I've been using for about 10 years. I've never had a software problem pulling a movie from any disc I've thrown at it.
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