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Post by richter250 on Mar 7, 2021 9:08:59 GMT -5
Emotiva remote app works on my old IPhone 7. The new app shows the menu as you navigate through it. This is way cool and very helpful if you can’t see well enough to read the menu on the front of the unit 😬 and don’t always have a monitor on. Thanks to everyone who worked on this. Fine job! |
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Post by kempf on Mar 8, 2021 7:49:20 GMT -5
Hi!
Does anybody know why i only have the top Middle option in preset one and not preset two? ( Rmc 1 firmware 2.2)
Mains set to Large
Center sub set to Lfe
In preset 1 I have the option Middle top Where Left and right sub also are
In Preset 2 Only the subs can be activated, The top speakers are not an option.
Thanks
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Post by ttocs on Mar 8, 2021 9:41:55 GMT -5
Hi! Does anybody know why i only have the top Middle option in preset one and not preset two? ( Rmc 1 firmware 2.2) Mains set to Large Center sub set to Lfe In preset 1 I have the option Middle top Where Left and right sub also are In Preset 2 Only the subs can be activated, The top speakers are not an option. Thanks Verify that the Top Middle has not been selected elsewhere, or that None is not selected for Front or Rear Heights. |
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Post by markc on Mar 8, 2021 10:00:14 GMT -5
I had some serious Pop noises, when I switched Input from HDMI to Balanced IN after listening to DSD. pls. open a ticket with your issue, so Emo understands, that a lot of people have this POP.
I went back to 2.1
I get pops on every firmware so far. 2.0, 2.1. and 2.2. Emotiva = Rice Krispies. Just about every processor or DAC I have ever had (including my trusty iPod and my Fiio mp3 player AND my car's audio system) makes a click or two going from different sound source formats such as a 44.1kHz mp3 file directly to a 48kHz one. It's normal. You either have to accept this or some unholy amount of muting (missing even more audio at the start of a track) due to the way DAC's have to lock on to a particular sample rate or DSD, DTS, Dolby, PCM format etc I am referring to snaps, crackles and pops though, not tweeter blowing whip-cracks |
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Post by aswiss on Mar 8, 2021 11:29:14 GMT -5
Yes - that xtreme loud noise was first time heard with 2.2 Never had any issues with DSD on 2.1.
Damon from Emotova told me, that's not a good idea - to have on Input 4 Video with HDMI4 and Audio with Balanced IN and Ref. Stereo set. I should leave Input 4 with HDMI4 for Audio & Video and set Surround Mode to Auto.
Like this - it would mute the sound.
Or better to MUTE the RMC1 after listening DSD Direct over the oppo before switching to another Input. (To be honest - I'm not sure if this helps)
The thing is really, that oppo does not set back to PCM, once DSD has stopped playing. Mine is the 203. I can live with this work around, but if this is reproduceable, it should be solved from Emo.
I'm wondering if this would happen with another SACD player as well or if this is only specific to the oppos.
I never heard such a loud Bass POP on my system since I own the RMC-1 - and this is almot 2 years now.
for the rest I have to say, that it's stable and doing what its designed for, at least for me. with the little things here and there you can easily live - and the sound quality is top.
Except DSD - which was always tricky.
For the Stereo part - I use a Cocktail Audio (also for DSD Stereo) with Roon - and its attached to Balanced IN. so only Analog Input.
So far Emotiva has fixed most of the promised stuff - but it took very long each time.
I'm in the same boat. The Plop or Bang Noise was so loud that my DR3 Amps went off. I had almost a heart attack. And I did not had Dirac Curve active as I do not use a Sub. It was a shocking Moment.
It happened whenn I first listened to DSD Direct 5 Channel fromthe oppo. Then wanted to switch over to Balanced IN to play with Roon. I tried it twice, same issue. Then decided to go back to 2.1.
Did anyone open a ticket? After 2.1 I thought it will be no problem - but it got worse for me - with a potential risk of speaker damage. I can stay on 2.1 but this is against Emo's recomendation.
I really start to think again in selling the rmc-1
I had the same issue with my Oppo BDP-105D playing DSD over HDMI to the XMC-1 (HDMI 2.0b board). Switching DSD tracks or switching from DSD to PCM would cause shocking distortion to be played. When I contacted Emotiva about it they said it was the Oppo not muting the output when it changed formats. I don't have any way of testing it as they are my only two DSD components, but there's no distortion in the Oppo's analog outputs, ever. But certainly it couldn't be Emotiva's flawless implementation of HDMI 2.0b... If I remember correctly the level of the distortion was based on the XMC-1s volume level, so it was repeatable without potentially causing damage to components. Maybe changing the Oppo's HDMI input type on the RMC/XMC to to v1.4 would fix the distortion? But you said it does not occur on firmware v2.1, only 2.2. That is quite interesting. I had hoped the RMC-1 was different enough that this issue would have disappeared, it's very concerning to see that it is still present. After reading through many of the bug fixes in this thread I pulled the trigger a couple weeks ago and sent in my XMC-1 for trade-in; my RMC-1L arrives in a few days..... At this point I'm scared of sending DSD to any Emotiva pre/pro. I'm considering selling the RMC-1L BNIB, continuing to use the Oppo's stereo outputs for DSD stereo and other stereo listening, and finding a different pre/pro to do surround sound processing. I guess expecting one device to do everything you want (and advertised), is too much to ask these days. |
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Post by aswiss on Mar 8, 2021 11:31:14 GMT -5
I get pops on every firmware so far. 2.0, 2.1. and 2.2. Emotiva = Rice Krispies. Just about every processor or DAC I have ever had (including my trusty iPod and my Fiio mp3 player AND my car's audio system) makes a click or two going from different sound source formats such as a 44.1kHz mp3 file directly to a 48kHz one. It's normal. You either have to accept this or some unholy amount of muting (missing even more audio at the start of a track) due to the way DAC's have to lock on to a particular sample rate or DSD, DTS, Dolby, PCM format etc I am referring to snaps, crackles and pops though, not tweeter blowing whip-cracks I'm not concerned about those clicks - for me it was a Bass Boom with about 100dB. I was scared to death.
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Post by aswiss on Mar 8, 2021 11:33:00 GMT -5
“Emotiva Remote” in tha Apple App Store has been upgraded and is now working perfectly with my RMC-1 in my home theater!!! Is an Update for the Andriod XMC-1 App planned as well? |
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Post by panasonicst60 on Mar 8, 2021 11:33:38 GMT -5
I get pops on every firmware so far. 2.0, 2.1. and 2.2. Emotiva = Rice Krispies. Just about every processor or DAC I have ever had (including my trusty iPod and my Fiio mp3 player AND my car's audio system) makes a click or two going from different sound source formats such as a 44.1kHz mp3 file directly to a 48kHz one. It's normal. You either have to accept this or some unholy amount of muting (missing even more audio at the start of a track) due to the way DAC's have to lock on to a particular sample rate or DSD, DTS, Dolby, PCM format etc I am referring to snaps, crackles and pops though, not tweeter blowing whip-cracks I have had over ten recrivers/processors in my lifetime and only two made these noises. Wait for it...the xmc-1 and xmc-2. For how buggy they are(let's not be in denial), I still like my Emotiva processors a lot due to the sound quality they provide for the price. |
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Post by rhale64 on Mar 8, 2021 12:07:00 GMT -5
“Emotiva Remote” in tha Apple App Store has been upgraded and is now working perfectly with my RMC-1 in my home theater!!! Is an Update for the Andriod XMC-1 App planned as well? Yes I was wondering the same thing |
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Post by Lsc on Mar 8, 2021 12:19:19 GMT -5
Just about every processor or DAC I have ever had (including my trusty iPod and my Fiio mp3 player AND my car's audio system) makes a click or two going from different sound source formats such as a 44.1kHz mp3 file directly to a 48kHz one. It's normal. You either have to accept this or some unholy amount of muting (missing even more audio at the start of a track) due to the way DAC's have to lock on to a particular sample rate or DSD, DTS, Dolby, PCM format etc I am referring to snaps, crackles and pops though, not tweeter blowing whip-cracks I have had over ten recrivers/processors in my lifetime and only two made these noises. Wait for it...the xmc-1 and xmc-2. For how buggy they are(let's not be in denial), I still like my Emotiva processors a lot due to the sound quality they provide for the price. I also had pops when I had my Onkyo receiver before I got the UMC200. You may have missed the pops on the UMC200 probably because you never owned one 😬. I have gotten the super loud pops when I played DSD - so I make sure the volume is way down when I’m starting or stopping DSD playback. luckily I only have 1 SACD so I don’t use it much. Although Dire Straights sounds unbelievable. The other pops while using ATV4K especially Disney is there but I have trained my brain to ignore it. |
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Post by cawgijoe on Mar 8, 2021 12:40:23 GMT -5
I have had over ten recrivers/processors in my lifetime and only two made these noises. Wait for it...the xmc-1 and xmc-2. For how buggy they are(let's not be in denial), I still like my Emotiva processors a lot due to the sound quality they provide for the price. I also had pops when I had my Onkyo receiver before I got the UMC200. You may have missed the pops on the UMC200 probably because you never owned one 😬. I have gotten the super loud pops when I played DSD - so I make sure the volume is way down when I’m starting or stopping DSD playback. luckily I only have 1 SACD so I don’t use it much. Although Dire Straights sounds unbelievable. The other pops while using ATV4K especially Disney is there but I have trained my brain to ignore it. I had pops and clicks when changing audio formats with both my Denon and Pioneer Elite receivers prior to this. They were minor and not loud. I really haven't played much DSD even though I do have SACD's and a capable player, the Oppo 203. Will probably avoid if DSD is the culprit for Loud noises. I like my speakers. My ATV4K will randomly click, but the sound is low and quick and I've received no complaints from the family. |
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Post by TheTerrorBeyond on Mar 8, 2021 14:37:08 GMT -5
This thread is really long, so I am going to ask something that might have been covered already... sorry. I just received my XMC-2 and I am experiencing some audio drop outs. These are moderately frequent, and last probably 20ms or so. I tried different HDMI cables with no change. It happens on multiple sources as well. Has anyone else had this issue? If you have had this issue, how did you fix it? Barring this issue, I am very pleased with the unit. I think it sounds more open than the XMC-1, and I really loved my XMC-1. Any ideas here? |
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Post by cawgijoe on Mar 8, 2021 15:40:13 GMT -5
This thread is really long, so I am going to ask something that might have been covered already... sorry. I just received my XMC-2 and I am experiencing some audio drop outs. These are moderately frequent, and last probably 20ms or so. I tried different HDMI cables with no change. It happens on multiple sources as well. Has anyone else had this issue? If you have had this issue, how did you fix it? Barring this issue, I am very pleased with the unit. I think it sounds more open than the XMC-1, and I really loved my XMC-1. Any ideas here? Can you provide more detail? Equipment? Sources? How connected? Just HDMI? When does this happen....switching tv channels....between audio formats...etc. I have slight "dropouts" when switching channels on Directv as the audio changes from say, 5.1 Dolby to PCM 2.0 on another channel, or when commercials change audio formats. This is momentary as the processor syncs audio. Really doesn't bother me. Thanks! |
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Post by TheTerrorBeyond on Mar 8, 2021 17:36:55 GMT -5
Can you provide more detail? Equipment? Sources? How connected? Just HDMI? When does this happen....switching tv channels....between audio formats...etc. I have slight "dropouts" when switching channels on Directv as the audio changes from say, 5.1 Dolby to PCM 2.0 on another channel, or when commercials change audio formats. This is momentary as the processor syncs audio. Really doesn't bother me. Thanks! The dropouts happen on any source, and do not require switching to trigger. I am just watching something and the dropouts happen. I have had the issue with the following sources: NVIDIA Shield TiVo XBOX Series X I changed HDMI cables and the problem remained. The dropouts are very short audio glitches where the audio blanks out. The picture is not affected, just the audio. |
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Post by jackjones on Mar 8, 2021 19:16:19 GMT -5
Have 5.1 and 4 atmos ceiling configured. My osd trims menu only shows sub and center active for trim adjustments. I can adjust surround tirms with my remote but not through osd. Need osd trim menu as all av is in closet. Any idea as to why osd trim only shows center and sub? Surrounds are set to small in setup menu. ceiling speakers are set to small top front and small top rear in setup menu.
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Post by markc on Mar 9, 2021 7:17:30 GMT -5
Yes - that xtreme loud noise was first time heard with 2.2 Never had any issues with DSD on 2.1.
Damon from Emotova told me, that's not a good idea - to have on Input 4 Video with HDMI4 and Audio with Balanced IN and Ref. Stereo set. I should leave Input 4 with HDMI4 for Audio & Video and set Surround Mode to Auto.
Like this - it would mute the sound.
Or better to MUTE the RMC1 after listening DSD Direct over the oppo before switching to another Input. (To be honest - I'm not sure if this helps)
The Harmony remotes can be set to do this automatically for you, (and possibly other remotes too) You shouldn't have to do this I grant you |
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Post by markc on Mar 9, 2021 7:52:26 GMT -5
I have gotten the super loud pops when I played DSD - so I make sure the volume is way down when I’m starting or stopping DSD playback. luckily I only have 1 SACD so I don’t use it much. Although Dire Straights sounds unbelievable. Off topic, but if you are listening Brothers In Arms and to the Multichannel Mix, then this is one album that is absolutely definitely most accurately listened to in PCM from the DVD-Audio and not the DSD SACD Brothers In Arms is the album that was famously touted as the first DDD produced album - Digitally recorded, Digitally Mixed and Digitally Mastered (despite being mixed THROUGH an analogue console!) This was all done and stored in 16 bit 44.1kHz DASH format. This limits what can ever be achieved from this recording, but thankfully Brothers in Arms was accidentally recorded rather well using this new technology. (Unlike another DDD album of that time (George Michael's Faith) which sounds terrible and from which no truly dynamic audio can ever be recreated as the originals suck. There is a cloudy muddiness and lack of clarity. The remaster of Faith from 2011 is probably as good as it will ever get but still sounds terrible and represents a moment in time that was failed to be adequately captured.) (When I listen to Ella Fitzgerald's voice from old recordings I feel the same sadness. Despite being magnificent, there is clearly something missing and colouration added and we can never experience what it was truly and actually like) As for the best stereo mastering of BIA, I'm not sure! I always go to the multichannels now. The most accurate is NOT the DVDA as this is 24bit 48kHz. However, the multitrack harvesting and mixing and remastering process for the multichannel SACD & DVDA was done at 24bit 96Hz in Steinberg Nuendo. Only the DVDA presents them in this new-native 96kHz without any dithering or resampling I accept accuracy may not translate to listening pleasure, but then I choose not to use Tone controls for the same reason. I have both the DVDA and the SACD and both sound amazing but I definitely prefer the PCM. (I love the 5.1 mixes too). Also, I find the purist argument for the DVD-A compelling, and am reassured that the engineer who did the work, Chuck Ainlay, states the PCM is definitely a more accurate listen to what they heard coming off the console as they did the work. |
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Post by ttocs on Mar 9, 2021 8:30:24 GMT -5
markc that's a nifty way of "muting" the text in a quote that you want to diminish in favor of the highlighted text! Nice! I'll start doing that as well.
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Post by Lsc on Mar 9, 2021 9:35:57 GMT -5
I have gotten the super loud pops when I played DSD - so I make sure the volume is way down when I’m starting or stopping DSD playback. luckily I only have 1 SACD so I don’t use it much. Although Dire Straights sounds unbelievable. Off topic, but if you are listening Brothers In Arms and to the Multichannel Mix, then this is one album that is absolutely definitely most accurately listened to in PCM from the DVD-Audio and not the DSD SACD .... I have both the DVDA and the SACD and both sound amazing but I definitely prefer the PCM. (I love the 5.1 mixes too). Thanks for sharing. I learn something new every day! I do thoroughly enjoy listening to the SACD with the music going around in circles and what not. Did not know it could actually sound better though. I probably will not buy the DVD-A since I already have the SACD but had I known I probably would have gotten the DVD version. |
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Post by aswiss on Mar 9, 2021 12:55:37 GMT -5
Yes - that xtreme loud noise was first time heard with 2.2 Never had any issues with DSD on 2.1.
Damon from Emotova told me, that's not a good idea - to have on Input 4 Video with HDMI4 and Audio with Balanced IN and Ref. Stereo set. I should leave Input 4 with HDMI4 for Audio & Video and set Surround Mode to Auto.
Like this - it would mute the sound.
Or better to MUTE the RMC1 after listening DSD Direct over the oppo before switching to another Input. (To be honest - I'm not sure if this helps)
The Harmony remotes can be set to do this automatically for you, (and possibly other remotes too) You shouldn't have to do this I grant you I know that - but it's more, that Emo answered me that they are not sure what caused the very loud POP (or shall I say Bass Boom), nor have they a resolution for me. If some of the features should not be used, because it could harm my speakers, they should at least mention this - and this is not a question of "how to implemented an automated workaround with my harmony" or am I wrong?
It's like every 2nd FW has issues - and with adding new features, new issues come with - not what I expected, but used to it  .
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