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Post by bitzerjdb on May 22, 2020 7:46:56 GMT -5
Tivo doesn't allow you to change the HDMI settings, it only allows you to set the video resolution. I did see one other setting HDR (set to Auto), will try turning it off. At least the equipment rack is pulled out so it is easy to swap cables. Thanks! Is your Sony tv input set to "Enhanced Format" ? Yes - and the direct connect from the TIVO to the Sony works perfectly |
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Post by ttocs on May 22, 2020 8:15:45 GMT -5
Is your Sony tv input set to "Enhanced Format" ? Yes - and the direct connect from the TIVO to the Sony works perfectly So does your Video Resolution setup look like this?  I can't replicate your situation with 1080i because my Comcast has abandoned 1080i. I used to be able to see 1080i in the past, but now everything is 720p and lower. I normally set mine to Auto (recommended) which upscales everything to 4K. When changing from the settings shown in the photo above to Auto there is a confirmation that appears if the downstream components are capable of 4K, then requiring a Thumbs Up to accept. Curious to know what cable system you have, and what is being sent at 1080i? |
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Post by bitzerjdb on May 22, 2020 8:35:13 GMT -5
Yes - and the direct connect from the TIVO to the Sony works perfectly So does your Video Resolution setup look like this? View AttachmentI can't replicate your situation with 1080i because my Comcast has abandoned 1080i. I used to be able to see 1080i in the past, but now everything is 720p and lower. I normally set mine to Auto (recommended) which upscales everything to 4K. When changing from the settings shown in the photo above to Auto there is a confirmation that appears if the downstream components are capable of 4K, then requiring a Thumbs Up to accept. Curious to know what cable system you have, and what is being sent at 1080i? If set to Auto, it selects the 4K option...and the Green Screen If set to the 4K option....it sticks and I get the Green Screen I've set it to 1080p (or 1080i) and it is rock solid (HDMI lock is very quick) In your example, the highest output from the Tivo is 720p. I probably will just leave it at 1080. I wanted 4K so I could see the Netflix 4K titles, but I can use the Native app on the TV or the Roku. I have Verizon Fios and am getting 1080i feeds. FYI - Tried a totally different new cable this morning and got the same result...it's not the cables. Again - On the bright side, this is a Major improvement. Setting it to 1080 previously didn't make a difference, I would get a black screen with a NO Signal message. Thanks for the suggestions! |
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Post by KeithL on May 22, 2020 9:01:09 GMT -5
When you get funny colors... notably pink and green... and the problem is not a cable... it's often a color space issue.
Look on your source for a place to set "Color Space" to "YCbCr" or "RGB" or "auto".
Change it from auto to one of the others - try both. (With many devices, either one or the other works properly, but "auto" does not.) (We support both... bot not all TVs and projectors do... or they could be choosing one but setting the flag incorrectly.)
That sucks with Comcast......
XFinity X1 cable boxes support 1080... but, for some strange reason, they ship defaulted to 720p... or, at least, they used to.
So does your Video Resolution setup look like this? I can't replicate your situation with 1080i because my Comcast has abandoned 1080i. I used to be able to see 1080i in the past, but now everything is 720p and lower. I normally set mine to Auto (recommended) which upscales everything to 4K. When changing from the settings shown in the photo above to Auto there is a confirmation that appears if the downstream components are capable of 4K, then requiring a Thumbs Up to accept. Curious to know what cable system you have, and what is being sent at 1080i? If set to Auto, it selects the 4K option...and the Green Screen If set to the 4K option....it sticks and I get the Green Screen I've set it to 1080p (or 1080i) and it is rock solid (HDMI lock is very quick) In your example, the highest output from the Tivo is 720p. I probably will just leave it at 1080. I wanted 4K so I could see the Netflix 4K titles, but I can use the Native app on the TV or the Roku. I have Verizon Fios and am getting 1080i feeds. FYI - Tried a totally different new cable this morning and got the same result...it's not the cables. Again - On the bright side, this is a Major improvement. Setting it to 1080 previously didn't make a difference, I would get a black screen with a NO Signal message. Thanks for the suggestions! |
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Post by ttocs on May 22, 2020 9:09:48 GMT -5
So does your Video Resolution setup look like this? I can't replicate your situation with 1080i because my Comcast has abandoned 1080i. I used to be able to see 1080i in the past, but now everything is 720p and lower. I normally set mine to Auto (recommended) which upscales everything to 4K. When changing from the settings shown in the photo above to Auto there is a confirmation that appears if the downstream components are capable of 4K, then requiring a Thumbs Up to accept. Curious to know what cable system you have, and what is being sent at 1080i? If set to Auto, it selects the 4K option...and the Green Screen If set to the 4K option....it sticks and I get the Green Screen I've set it to 1080p (or 1080i) and it is rock solid (HDMI lock is very quick) In your example, the highest output from the Tivo is 720p. I probably will just leave it at 1080. I wanted 4K so I could see the Netflix 4K titles, but I can use the Native app on the TV or the Roku. I have Verizon Fios and am getting 1080i feeds. FYI - Tried a totally different new cable this morning and got the same result...it's not the cables. Again - On the bright side, this is a Major improvement. Setting it to 1080 previously didn't make a difference, I would get a black screen with a NO Signal message. Thanks for the suggestions! Please check something on the TiVo, Menu:: Help:: Account & System Info:: Diagnostics:: Signal Strength: 94%, SNR: 37dB (my current readings) The Signal Strength and SNR tell the health of the incoming signal. The Signal Strength needs to be between 80-99%, and the range for SNR is between 29-35. Too high or too low causes problems, but can be corrected. |
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Post by ttocs on May 22, 2020 9:24:05 GMT -5
When you get funny colors... notably pink and green... and the problem is not a cable... it's often a color space issue. Look on your source for a place to set "Color Space" to "YCbCr" or "RGB" or "auto".
Change it from auto to one of the others - try both. (With many devices, either one or the other works properly, but "auto" does not.) (We support both... bot not all TVs and projectors do... or they could be choosing one but setting the flag incorrectly.)
That sucks with Comcast......
XFinity X1 cable boxes support 1080... but, for some strange reason, they ship defaulted to 720p... or, at least, they used to. Unfortunately, there is no setting for Color Space. Comcast chose to down-res 1080i to 720p several years ago. It was to economize the bandwidth. |
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Post by hsamwel on May 22, 2020 9:36:56 GMT -5
You shouldn't be seeing anything but DSD Direct if you truly have a device passing DSD over an HDMI connection If you are seeing any bits or any sample rates, then you are getting PCM Yeah but I am not sure why it is showing bits even for analog input Thanks Because Emotiva does not clear this when playing analog. IMO they should always set this info. Analog should show āAnalogā not the previous sound formats bits and sample rate. I have mentioned this way way back but to deaf ears. Not important it seems. |
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Post by hsamwel on May 22, 2020 9:43:19 GMT -5
I doubt this is the case. It is not just over a few Hz bandwidth at the subwoofer crossover that is missing. Vocals are muted, everything is muted. (I don't mean just in volume, I mean localisation, reverb) Just the vocal deficit means that the 300 to 3400 Hz range is affected. Bluescale, can I ask you to experiment with the way you change surround mode while listening, as per point 2 in my post, just to see if you can provoke the Neural:X bad effect. Also, what speaker configuration are you and Megashon running. Mine is 7.2 (I forgot I have the Buttkicker set up as Subwoofer 2) I repeatedly found that the Neural:X wasn't even engaging when selected, depending on how it was selected. 5.1.4 All Emotiva gear except for subs. I use center mono sub that outputs to a balanced MiniDSP that controls 2 12 inch subs. I guess technically that is 5.2.4 depending on which angle you view from. š The input (source) is always .1. But ouput is as many subs you have in your setup. So when talking setup you should always use .2 in your case. |
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Post by hsamwel on May 22, 2020 9:55:52 GMT -5
Is Surround mode using PEQ and Dirac? For some reason Surround isnāt mentioned in the manual
where the sound modes are explained.
All I found was a small note in the input setting for 5.1 mentioning that itās used for straight decoding.
Emotiva could you add this in the manual?
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Post by junchoon on May 22, 2020 10:03:21 GMT -5
Xlr input 7 and hdmi input 1 Both shows 24bits Those are the numbers shown when playing a redbook CD. Is there a setting on your player for which layer to play? There is a physical switch at the back that force to play SACD layer Thanks |
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Post by junchoon on May 22, 2020 10:04:46 GMT -5
Yeah but I am not sure why it is showing bits even for analog input Thanks Because Emotiva does not clear this when playing analog. IMO they should always set this info. Analog should show āAnalogā not the previous sound formats bits and sample rate. I have mentioned this way way back but to deaf ears. Not important it seems. But this does not explain why when in HDMI it still show 24bits Thanks |
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Post by geebo on May 22, 2020 10:11:49 GMT -5
Because Emotiva does not clear this when playing analog. IMO they should always set this info. Analog should show āAnalogā not the previous sound formats bits and sample rate. I have mentioned this way way back but to deaf ears. Not important it seems. But this does not explain why when in HDMI it still show 24bits Thanks I will try to remember to check the display on mine tonight when playing a DSD file. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 22, 2020 10:54:21 GMT -5
... I can't replicate your situation with 1080i because my Comcast has abandoned 1080i. I used to be able to see 1080i in the past, but now everything is 720p and lower. I normally set mine to Auto (recommended) which upscales everything to 4K. ... With the quality of upscaling on your 950G being so good, wouldnāt it be better to set your Comcast Box at 720p and let the Sony do the heavy lifting? As you say Comcast sends everything at 720p. The only time that might not work is if Comcast actually sent something in 4K which I know is rare. I think a good general recommendation for all STBs is to set them at their services basic resolution and frame rate ā unless they have a ānativeā resolution setting. My DirecTV eliminated ānativeā resolution last summer, at which point I switched to 1080i (DTVs base res), the Sony handles the 4K upscaling much better (and still sends the 4K channels in 2160p/60). |
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Post by LCSeminole on May 22, 2020 11:01:18 GMT -5
Is Surround mode using PEQ and Dirac? For some reason Surround isnāt mentioned in the manual where the sound modes are explained. All I found was a small note in the input setting for 5.1 mentioning that itās used for straight decoding. Emotiva could you add this in the manual? Straight from the RMC-1 product page under the "Specs & Download" tab: Audio Operating Modes: Reference Stereo Mode: Purist stereo mode with no bass management; analog signals remain pure analog. Direct Mode: Minimal processing with bass management. Surround Mode: Full surround sound processing, with bass management and room correction. Stereo Mode: Full bass management and room correction for stereo input signals. All Stereo Mode |
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Post by junchoon on May 22, 2020 11:31:25 GMT -5
But this does not explain why when in HDMI it still show 24bits Thanks I will try to remember to check the display on mine tonight when playing a DSD file. I double checked seems still 24bit 48khz Will do a factory reset and see Thanks |
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Post by hsamwel on May 22, 2020 11:41:55 GMT -5
Because Emotiva does not clear this when playing analog. IMO they should always set this info. Analog should show āAnalogā not the previous sound formats bits and sample rate. I have mentioned this way way back but to deaf ears. Not important it seems. But this does not explain why when in HDMI it still show 24bits Thanks I think itās a default info thatās being shown when playing analog. Played a bluray, showed correctly 48khz 24bit. Changed to a SACD, RMC-1 correctly changed to 2.8mhz 1bit. Changed to the CD layer of the disc, still hdmi input, now it shows 44.1khz 24bit. Correct?! Donāt know but I have no setting to upscale the bitrate on my Pioneer UDP-LX800. Still on the CD layer and changed to XLR balanced input, RMC-1 shows 48khz 24bit. Changed to SACD layer, still on XLR, RMC-1 still shows 48khz 24bit. Changed back to hdmi, still on SACD layer, RMC-1 correctly changed to 2.8mhz 1bit. Still on hdmi and SACD layer, changed to pcm output from the player. RMC-1 shows 88.2khz 24bit. Changed to an DVD, old dolby digital 5.1 track, almost certainly a 48khz 16bit. RMC-1 now shows 48khz 16bit correctly. Why my CD layer shows 24bit is a mystery.. Analog gets a default of 48khz 24bit shown. |
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Post by lwestfall on May 22, 2020 11:46:27 GMT -5
Ever since upgrading to the otherwise commendable v1.10 firmware, when the RMC-1 is first turned on, it boots up and then goes immediately into standby mode. I would much prefer it to start up and stay on and await input instead of having to then turn it on again manually. This happens no matter what is connected and even happens when nothing is connected to it. I have CEC off because in the past with CEC on I have had issues with my LG C7 TV taking over input from My Oppo UDP-203 which is my main source. Thanks for looking into this. When I put mine into Lowest Power mode, I hit the On button once on the remote and it turns on. Are you turning the main power switch on the back to Off? edit: I just realized you mentioned CEC. Please check CEC on your unit because some have noted that it's been getting enabled with FW-1.10. I leave the main power switch in the back on. I just toggle the power supply to my rack. The RMC-1 boots up and then goes into standby. With prior firmware it would stay on which I prefer. CEC is not enabled. |
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Post by hsamwel on May 22, 2020 11:47:03 GMT -5
Is Surround mode using PEQ and Dirac? For some reason Surround isnāt mentioned in the manual where the sound modes are explained. All I found was a small note in the input setting for 5.1 mentioning that itās used for straight decoding. Emotiva could you add this in the manual? Straight from the RMC-1 product page under the "Specs & Download" tab: Audio Operating Modes: Reference Stereo Mode: Purist stereo mode with no bass management; analog signals remain pure analog. Direct Mode: Minimal processing with bass management. Surround Mode: Full surround sound processing, with bass management and room correction. Stereo Mode: Full bass management and room correction for stereo input signals. All Stereo Mode Ok, thanks. But still a fault in the manual. It should be mentioned with all the other modes as well.. |
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Post by hsamwel on May 22, 2020 11:50:41 GMT -5
... I can't replicate your situation with 1080i because my Comcast has abandoned 1080i. I used to be able to see 1080i in the past, but now everything is 720p and lower. I normally set mine to Auto (recommended) which upscales everything to 4K. ... With the quality of upscaling on your 950G being so good, wouldnāt it be better to set your Comcast Box at 720p and let the Sony do the heavy lifting? As you say Comcast sends everything at 720p. The only time that might not work is if Comcast actually sent something in 4K which I know is rare. I think a good general recommendation for all STBs is to set them at their services basic resolution and frame rate ā unless they have a ānativeā resolution setting. My DirecTV eliminated ānativeā resolution last summer, at which point I switched to 1080i (DTVs base res), the Sony handles the 4K upscaling much better (and still sends the 4K channels in 2160p/60). I agree! Itās my experience that most TV boxes works better if you set them up with locked settings rather than auto modes. |
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Post by SteveH on May 22, 2020 12:07:59 GMT -5
FW 1.10 corrected my inoperative ARC with a Samsung Q80R TV, all is good now. I also notice better performance with audio/video pass-through in Standby.
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