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Post by geebo on Jan 7, 2022 11:51:38 GMT -5
NOTE ABOUT SETTING TEST LEVELS IN DIRAC LIVE....
In several places in the documentation, and in our videos, you will be told to "set levels in the green area". Likewise, in some more recent posts, you may see instructions to "set the levels in the blue stripe".
The Dirac Live software now has a slightly different appearance - and there is no longer a "green area" or "blue stripe".
You should now set those levels BY NUMBER. Would the suggested mic setting of -37dB apply only to the Emotiva mic or others as well such as the UMIK-1? |
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Post by bradleyaudio on Jan 7, 2022 12:16:57 GMT -5
Is there any way to view the previously obtained curves without bringing up the XMC-2 on the network?
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Post by KeithL on Jan 7, 2022 12:18:24 GMT -5
Since it is actually a calibration of the audio level being received by the software it should theoretically be microphone-independent. However, since other microphones may have different noise and overload levels, you might need adjust it accordingly.
Remember that this is only a recommendation or starting point anyway. Specifically, the setting for microphone gain is a sort of guess, based on the amount of background noise found in a "typical" room. (We have to pick some number as a starting point - and it wouldn't work at all if you were to set it all the way down.)
NOTE ABOUT SETTING TEST LEVELS IN DIRAC LIVE....
In several places in the documentation, and in our videos, you will be told to "set levels in the green area". Likewise, in some more recent posts, you may see instructions to "set the levels in the blue stripe".
The Dirac Live software now has a slightly different appearance - and there is no longer a "green area" or "blue stripe".
You should now set those levels BY NUMBER. <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button>
Would the suggested mic setting of -37dB apply only to the Emotiva mic or others as well such as the UMIK-1? |
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Post by KeithL on Jan 7, 2022 12:20:14 GMT -5
We will be updating the documentation shortly - and eventually the video. Unfortunately, as with much modern software, minor changes in the software's user interface are to be expected.
NOTE ABOUT SETTING TEST LEVELS IN DIRAC LIVE....
In several places in the documentation, and in our videos, you will be told to "set levels in the green area". Likewise, in some more recent posts, you may see instructions to "set the levels in the blue stripe".
The Dirac Live software now has a slightly different appearance - and there is no longer a "green area" or "blue stripe".
You should now set those levels BY NUMBER. <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button>
Has this information been updated in the Emo/Dirac User guide pdf and a YT video created showing the new procedure? Many G3 processor users do not come here and wouldn't know about this. |
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Post by KeithL on Jan 7, 2022 12:26:27 GMT -5
The software validates your license using information it obtains from the processor (the license is tied to the processor). And, since it does so every time you run it, it requires that the processor be connected...
The last time I looked the software wouldn't let you in at all until it had verified your license... However, I didn't specifically look for a way around it, and that could easily change in future versions...
Is there any way to view the previously obtained curves without bringing up the XMC-2 on the network? |
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Post by geebo on Jan 7, 2022 12:40:59 GMT -5
Is there any way to view the previously obtained curves without bringing up the XMC-2 on the network? Not that I've been able to find. |
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Post by hsamwel on Jan 8, 2022 7:02:46 GMT -5
NOTE ABOUT SETTING TEST LEVELS IN DIRAC LIVE....
In several places in the documentation, and in our videos, you will be told to "set levels in the green area". Likewise, in some more recent posts, you may see instructions to "set the levels in the blue stripe".
The Dirac Live software now has a slightly different appearance - and there is no longer a "green area" or "blue stripe".
You should now set those levels BY NUMBER. <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button>
Would the suggested mic setting of -37dB apply only to the Emotiva mic or others as well such as the UMIK-1? You should always first try 100% for the mic. As Keith wrote, then lowering it depending on the ambient noise level in your room. If the noise is too high then you would need an insane calibration sound level to get a good calibration. It’s the ”about 20dB above” the noise that counts.. Some cope with as low as 15dB above the noise. Note also that lowering the mic level would need a higher main volume for the calibration. Again depending on the noise level of the room. In the end having as low room noise as possible is really prefered for best results. |
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Post by marcl on Jan 8, 2022 8:21:41 GMT -5
Dirac's big CES announcements look to be strictly automotive, and as such only relevant if you happen to buy a car that happens to be equipped with the new features ... and if they happen to work. It's nice for those who happen to be in this circumstance and I bet it sounds great ... but pretty irrelevant to most of us, I think.  www.dirac.com/news/ |
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Post by PaulBe on Jan 8, 2022 22:23:59 GMT -5
Dirac's big CES announcements look to be strictly automotive, and as such only relevant if you happen to buy a car that happens to be equipped with the new features ... and if they happen to work. It's nice for those who happen to be in this circumstance and I bet it sounds great ... but pretty irrelevant to most of us, I think.  www.dirac.com/news/I've had immersive sound in my cars for 50 years. It's called road noise.  It never fails, but, has occasional bugs, and always disappoints.  |
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Post by leonski on Jan 8, 2022 23:56:33 GMT -5
Dirac's big CES announcements look to be strictly automotive, and as such only relevant if you happen to buy a car that happens to be equipped with the new features ... and if they happen to work. It's nice for those who happen to be in this circumstance and I bet it sounds great ... but pretty irrelevant to most of us, I think. www.dirac.com/news/I've had immersive sound in my cars for 50 years. It's called road noise. It never fails, but, has occasional bugs, and always disappoints. I had the occassional bug, too. Must be 40 years ago....I had a car with WING WINDOWS. Many today don't even know what they are....or were. I had it flipped around to blow air IN. No air con in THAT ride, I can tell YOU.... But speaking of BUGS? I hit a bee the size of a Hummingbird and it blew INTO the car.....I almost put the darn thing into the DITCH.......That was SOME BEE.... |
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Post by PaulBe on Jan 9, 2022 0:01:06 GMT -5
I've had immersive sound in my cars for 50 years. It's called road noise. It never fails, but, has occasional bugs, and always disappoints. I had the occassional bug, too. Must be 40 years ago....I had a car with WING WINDOWS. Many today don't even know what they are....or were. I had it flipped around to blow air IN. No air con in THAT ride, I can tell YOU.... But speaking of BUGS? I hit a bee the size of a Hummingbird and it blew INTO the car.....I almost put the darn thing into the DITCH.......That was SOME BEE.... WING WINDOWS! I remember those. Yep. Natural air. Don't need no hummingbird sized bees. OhNo! How about when you hit a June Bug and it sounds like a rock? This new Dirac for cars confirms that Dirac is just a toy. They can't finish what they start. |
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Post by leonski on Jan 9, 2022 0:11:53 GMT -5
couple things?
If a company gets away from its CORE, that can mean trouble. Divided resources is just the start.
And you REALLY want a bug problem?? I used to BICYCLE back and forth to work. At one point 7 miles each way
and later.....a little further with an awful ride home IN THE DARK with lunatics.....Horrible headwind going TO and still air
after 10pm ro later.
One day going TO work....against a DAILY wind right in my face, I sprinted from a stoplight and with mouth WIDE OPEN
swallowed a pretty good sized BUG. GULP, right to the bottom. Yick...
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Post by bradleyaudio on Jan 9, 2022 0:19:31 GMT -5
Been trying to search for this but no luck so far. Is it possible in the current Dirac to exit the target curve points in a text file? If so where is it documented?
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Post by 5channels on Jan 9, 2022 8:54:17 GMT -5
I had the occassional bug, too. Must be 40 years ago....I had a car with WING WINDOWS. Many today don't even know what they are....or were. I had it flipped around to blow air IN. No air con in THAT ride, I can tell YOU.... But speaking of BUGS? I hit a bee the size of a Hummingbird and it blew INTO the car.....I almost put the darn thing into the DITCH.......That was SOME BEE.... WING WINDOWS! I remember those. Yep. Natural air. Don't need no hummingbird sized bees. OhNo! How about when you hit a June Bug and it sounds like a rock? This new Dirac for cars confirms that Dirac is just a toy. They can't finish what they start. Didn't Dirac first start out working with the automotive industry? |
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Post by PaulBe on Jan 9, 2022 12:59:33 GMT -5
WING WINDOWS! I remember those. Yep. Natural air. Don't need no hummingbird sized bees. OhNo! How about when you hit a June Bug and it sounds like a rock? This new Dirac for cars confirms that Dirac is just a toy. They can't finish what they start. Didn't Dirac first start out working with the automotive industry? IIRC Dirac started out developing room correction for production purposes - correcting concert halls. Which also means the possibility of convoluting one hall to sound like another. It's a limited market. |
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Post by hsamwel on Jan 9, 2022 16:44:30 GMT -5
Didn't Dirac first start out working with the automotive industry? IIRC Dirac started out developing room correction for production purposes - correcting concert halls. Which also means the possibility of convoluting one hall to sound like another. It's a limited market. You must not understand what Dirac tries to do.. It’s purpose is not to change the the sound to sound alike in every room/hall. It’s to remove the faults in each room! This way the speakers should sound their best in each and every room, not the same. Of course this can go wrong sometimes. It’s afterall software and quite advanced what they try to do. There’s also the thing that these are set up in homes by people with no or slight education in room aqoustics or really Dirac. |
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Post by 5channels on Jan 9, 2022 17:03:30 GMT -5
IIRC Dirac started out developing room correction for production purposes - correcting concert halls. Which also means the possibility of convoluting one hall to sound like another. It's a limited market. You must not understand what Dirac tries to do.. It’s purpose is not to change the the sound to sound alike in every room/hall. It’s to remove the faults in each room! This way the speakers should sound their best in each and every room, not the same. Of course this can go wrong sometimes. It’s afterall software and quite advanced what they try to do. There’s also the thing that these are set up in homes by people with no or slight education in room aqoustics or really Dirac. My apologies, I am talking about the consumer market. BMW as it were. www.soundandvision.com/content/ridding-world-bad-sound |
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Post by leonski on Jan 9, 2022 17:26:16 GMT -5
You must not understand what Dirac tries to do.. It’s purpose is not to change the the sound to sound alike in every room/hall. It’s to remove the faults in each room! This way the speakers should sound their best in each and every room, not the same. Of course this can go wrong sometimes. It’s afterall software and quite advanced what they try to do. There’s also the thing that these are set up in homes by people with no or slight education in room aqoustics or really Dirac. My apologies, I am talking about the consumer market. BMW as it were. www.soundandvision.com/content/ridding-world-bad-soundThe GOAL should be to be for even the LEAST 'acoustically educated' among us to COOKBOOK this Dirac thing and arrive at a proper solution. I suspect that TOO MUCH such 'education' could actually be a roadblock. Instructions should be a series of 'no brainer' steps. One Point Lessons, if you will.... Some explanations IN the SETUP about First Reflection points and perhaps elementary Sub Location advice SHOULD be included. Just don't expect a huge education and background on ths subject. For example?....and about the limit what what I know? You should not need to know about RT60. |
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Post by PaulBe on Jan 9, 2022 18:35:14 GMT -5
IIRC Dirac started out developing room correction for production purposes - correcting concert halls. Which also means the possibility of convoluting one hall to sound like another. It's a limited market. You must not understand what Dirac tries to do.. It’s purpose is not to change the the sound to sound alike in every room/hall. It’s to remove the faults in each room! This way the speakers should sound their best in each and every room, not the same. Of course this can go wrong sometimes. It’s afterall software and quite advanced what they try to do. There’s also the thing that these are set up in homes by people with no or slight education in room aqoustics or really Dirac. I didn't miss anything. And, the question concerned how Dirac started out; not what Dirac Live does. Do you know how Dirac started out? I have no interest in debating the purpose of Dirac Live. |
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Post by bradleyaudio on Jan 10, 2022 19:02:31 GMT -5
Just to confirm, are folks recommending that we upgrade to the latest version of Dirac, downloaded directly from Dirac?
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