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Post by megash0n on Jul 25, 2020 20:39:30 GMT -5
all are zero except the subs.. Those are at +5 because I have some kind of gain issue I need to work thru. So if you check the levels with an SPL meter, are they all equal or close to equal? Mine are mostly at zero except a few a -1dB and -1.5dB. Also, you might want to do a little test with only 1 mic position. It's quick and is a good baseline to build on. You will see a nag question come up with "do you really want to do this?", don't recall the wording. But after answering you can finish a quick filter for testing purposes. I'm planning to do that. Right now, I cannot get my spl level back. I've restored settings from last week and the volume is still the same. I'm currently doing a hard reset. They are all pretty close with a meter btw.. |
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Post by ttocs on Jul 25, 2020 20:45:34 GMT -5
So if you check the levels with an SPL meter, are they all equal or close to equal? Mine are mostly at zero except a few a -1dB and -1.5dB. Also, you might want to do a little test with only 1 mic position. It's quick and is a good baseline to build on. You will see a nag question come up with "do you really want to do this?", don't recall the wording. But after answering you can finish a quick filter for testing purposes. I'm planning to do that. Right now, I cannot get my spl level back. I've restored settings from last week and the volume is still the same. I'm currently doing a hard reset. They are all pretty close with a meter btw.. I would suggest, once you save your settings, do a Factory Reset. Then just set the speakers being used and size. Then run a quick 1 mic spot measurement. My system is lower in overall volume as the weakest speaker channel in my system. My low gain tube amps are the culprits. The lowest level pre-Dirac was -8.5dB while my tube amp channels were set to 0.0dB. So now my system is -8.5dB lower in volume. |
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Post by megash0n on Jul 25, 2020 20:51:55 GMT -5
I'm planning to do that. Right now, I cannot get my spl level back. I've restored settings from last week and the volume is still the same. I'm currently doing a hard reset. They are all pretty close with a meter btw.. I would suggest, once you save your settings, do a Factory Reset. Then just set the speakers being used and size. Then run a quick 1 mic spot measurement. My system is lower in overall volume as the weakest speaker channel in my system. My low gain tube amps are the culprits. The lowest level pre-Dirac was -8.5dB while my tube amp channels were set to 0.0dB. So now my system is -8.5dB lower in volume. I did do a factory reset and rebooted just before running Dirac. I'm sure my subs caused the overall level to come down. The obscene bugginess otherwise though is extremely frustrating. Once I select a Dirac preset, it is hosed after. It will not return to normal volume and settings by simply switching presets. I've had to restore settings from last week, hard reset, and restart my source before I could return to what was previously normal. I know I have some things wrong here, but there are clearly some issues when I can't just change presets. Also, thank you very much for the help. |
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Post by ttocs on Jul 25, 2020 21:01:10 GMT -5
I would suggest, once you save your settings, do a Factory Reset. Then just set the speakers being used and size. Then run a quick 1 mic spot measurement. My system is lower in overall volume as the weakest speaker channel in my system. My low gain tube amps are the culprits. The lowest level pre-Dirac was -8.5dB while my tube amp channels were set to 0.0dB. So now my system is -8.5dB lower in volume. I did do a factory reset and rebooted just before running Dirac. I'm sure my subs caused the overall level to come down. The obscene bugginess otherwise though is extremely frustrating. Once I select a Dirac preset, it is hosed after. It will not return to normal volume and settings by simply switching presets. I've had to restore settings from last week, hard reset, and restart my source before I could return to what was previously normal. I know I have some things wrong here, but there are clearly some issues when I can't just change presets. Also, thank you very much for the help. No prob! Always happy to help when I am able to do so. I also did a Factory Reset and setup my speakers/sizes. The Dirac tests I've done was only for 7.2. Now I'm going for 7.2.4. So everything is fresh as a baby's processor. |
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Post by hsamwel on Jul 26, 2020 0:47:40 GMT -5
AudioHTIT This is something I am apparently not understanding about DL. In your recommendations you state: "* Speakers configured correctly for location, size and crossover" I understand that the number of speakers you wish to test must be properly configured and for location, but I don't understand why the crossover and size needs to be input. Does the x-over assigned to my fronts affect the DL reading and/or calibration? I was under the assumption that when Dirac runs its sweeps of each speaker it does so in the full range for all speakers. Does it measure or calculate differently if I set the x-over at 40 hz or 80 ? Does it do different sweeps if a speaker pair is listed as 'small' or 'large' ? What I mean is that all the channels you want tested need to be configured, Fronts, Center, Side, Rear, Heights/Tops/Dolby Enabled, etc. Whether how heights are set makes a difference might be an interesting discussion, I think not -- meaning you could have separate Dolby and DTS settings in the same preset -- but maybe someone has an idea why that wouldn't work. It's true that levels, distance, size and crossover are irrelevant to the measurements, but as soon as it's done size and crossover will make a difference, whereas levels and distance won't (and I always leave levels at 0). Thanks, I could probably word that better, I'll ponder it. 🤔Separate Dolby and DTS setting can only be done with two presets. That’s why it would have been ALOT better if we had 4-5 presets with 2 Dirac settings in each instead of the current 2 presets with 3 Dirac in each. We need different speaker settings for the height speakers. Speakers physically located at top position is called heights in DTS. Dolby’s Front height position does not exist in DTS. Best would be if the processor handled this internally if DTS is played. This means if you have top speakers (setup according to Dolby recomendation) they should be set to heights when playing DTS:X/Neural:X. If you have front/rear heights (setup according to Dolby recomendation) DTS expects them to be at top position, this is a problem. |
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Post by markc on Jul 26, 2020 5:23:56 GMT -5
Are your Speaker Levels set to 0.0dB on all speakers? I reset to defaults and then set up the basic stuff. Here's something odd.. I have about a 20 db difference between the preset with Dirac compared to the other preset that only has crossover settings. I know I messed up the levels when I started the Dirac config. The weird part... When switching from the Dirac preset back to the non-dirac preset, the volume remains very low. While I know I messed up the measurements, there is something not right here. I was at -18 prior to switching presets. After selecting the Dirac preset and back to the original, I am at 0 db and it still doesn't sound as loud and vibrant as the -18 prior to switching presets. Edit: I'm switching back and forth between each preset with zero difference in SPL. It's like the Dirac settings are stuck now. With preset 2, and 0db, my ears would be bleeding and I'd probably have some busted T1s. Did you go with the automated Dirac target level or apply a "house curve"? From when I used Dirac Live on my XMC-1 in 2015 this can be an issue if you set unrealistic target curves in Dirac. If you try and pull the room response curve up too much in too many places (using the Dirac filters, and I think Dirac can apply a maximum 10db boost for any given filter), then to avoid clipping the Emotiva processors will automatically lower the overall volume when you engage that preset. Similarly, if you set a house curve too low, in order to get an apparent bass boost by dropping everything else, that that will result in an overall volume drop (I don't think there is any maximum value for the cut-filters) (although 20dB seems a bit too much of a drop in overall volume for it to be only this) |
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Post by megash0n on Jul 26, 2020 7:39:10 GMT -5
I reset to defaults and then set up the basic stuff. Here's something odd.. I have about a 20 db difference between the preset with Dirac compared to the other preset that only has crossover settings. I know I messed up the levels when I started the Dirac config. The weird part... When switching from the Dirac preset back to the non-dirac preset, the volume remains very low. While I know I messed up the measurements, there is something not right here. I was at -18 prior to switching presets. After selecting the Dirac preset and back to the original, I am at 0 db and it still doesn't sound as loud and vibrant as the -18 prior to switching presets. Edit: I'm switching back and forth between each preset with zero difference in SPL. It's like the Dirac settings are stuck now. With preset 2, and 0db, my ears would be bleeding and I'd probably have some busted T1s. Did you go with the automated Dirac target level or apply a "house curve"? From when I used Dirac Live on my XMC-1 in 2015 this can be an issue if you set unrealistic target curves in Dirac. If you try and pull the room response curve up too much in too many places (using the Dirac filters, and I think Dirac can apply a maximum 10db boost for any given filter), then to avoid clipping the Emotiva processors will automatically lower the overall volume when you engage that preset. Similarly, if you set a house curve too low, in order to get an apparent bass boost by dropping everything else, that that will result in an overall volume drop (I don't think there is any maximum value for the cut-filters) (although 20dB seems a bit too much of a drop in overall volume for it to be only this) I definitely used the harmon +10 db curve. I'll load those settings back up and remove them. My subs are on average about 10 db lower than everything else with everything zeroed out and my sub gain dial set to Halfway. So.. I think it's a combination of both of those things.. Anything much more than 3/4 gain and I get a lot of clipping. I may just need more amp. |
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Post by marcl on Jul 26, 2020 7:48:57 GMT -5
Did you go with the automated Dirac target level or apply a "house curve"? From when I used Dirac Live on my XMC-1 in 2015 this can be an issue if you set unrealistic target curves in Dirac. If you try and pull the room response curve up too much in too many places (using the Dirac filters, and I think Dirac can apply a maximum 10db boost for any given filter), then to avoid clipping the Emotiva processors will automatically lower the overall volume when you engage that preset. Similarly, if you set a house curve too low, in order to get an apparent bass boost by dropping everything else, that that will result in an overall volume drop (I don't think there is any maximum value for the cut-filters) (although 20dB seems a bit too much of a drop in overall volume for it to be only this) I definitely used the harmon +10 db curve. I'll load those settings back up and remove them. My subs are on average about 10 db lower than everything else with everything zeroed out and my sub gain dial set to Halfway. So.. I think it's a combination of both of those things.. Anything much more than 3/4 gain and I get a lot of clipping. I may just need more amp. I'll second what Markc said. In my XMC-1 calibrations I went all over the place with customizing the curves to try to get them flatter and found the sorts of volume changes that you're seeing. First recommendation: First try taking the Dirac default curve and flattening the ends ... i.e. leave the center line and pull the bass down flat and the high end up flat. Live with a flat curve a while before experimenting with bass boost. Second recommendation: Read Floyd Toole's explanation of the Harman curves. www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/some-comments-from-floyd-toole-about-room-curve-targets-room-eq-and-more.10950/I thought about your subwoofer volume issue. Silly question, but did you check to be sure that the gain is all the way up and the crossovers are set to max? 9 measurements should be fine, but be sure they are spread at least 18-24" apart. If a flat curve still sounds wrong, measure again with the points further apart. |
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Post by megash0n on Jul 26, 2020 8:36:10 GMT -5
I definitely used the harmon +10 db curve. I'll load those settings back up and remove them. My subs are on average about 10 db lower than everything else with everything zeroed out and my sub gain dial set to Halfway. So.. I think it's a combination of both of those things.. Anything much more than 3/4 gain and I get a lot of clipping. I may just need more amp. I'll second what Markc said. In my XMC-1 calibrations I went all over the place with customizing the curves to try to get them flatter and found the sorts of volume changes that you're seeing. First recommendation: First try taking the Dirac default curve and flattening the ends ... i.e. leave the center line and pull the bass down flat and the high end up flat. Live with a flat curve a while before experimenting with bass boost. Second recommendation: Read Floyd Toole's explanation of the Harman curves. www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/some-comments-from-floyd-toole-about-room-curve-targets-room-eq-and-more.10950/I thought about your subwoofer volume issue. Silly question, but did you check to be sure that the gain is all the way up and the crossovers are set to max? 9 measurements should be fine, but be sure they are spread at least 18-24" apart. If a flat curve still sounds wrong, measure again with the points further apart. I think the harmon curve brought everything else down due to my subs being way too low. This would explain the roughly 20 db difference after. In relation to the subs, I have XLR to a balanced minidsp. That feeds a Behringer EP4000 amp with two sub outputs. There are no crossovers engaged on the amp. The gain typically stays around 3/4 mark, but I may have had it closer to half when I measured. The 2 subs are 12" TC Sounds LMS-R (1000 watts RMS) . The EP 4000 supposedly puts out 950 watts RMS in stereo at 4 ohms. I'm not sure if I just have something wrong or I need to wire this amp in bridged to run a single sub and just turn the gain down some as to not push too much power. I do have another cheaper Behringer amp that will likely deliver enough to run the other if I bridge it. Regardless though, I would think I have enough amp to play these things well. With everything zeroed out, and the amp gain at the halfway mark, my subs play at least 10db lower than the mains using the tones on the RMC. |
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Post by hsamwel on Jul 26, 2020 10:51:43 GMT -5
It’s really strange about the network.. I have never noticed any network dropouts or connection
issues since starting to use it in october last year.
Even when using the app while running a 4k movie made any difference.
Not that I use it often really. But anytime I start the app it simply works.
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Post by megash0n on Jul 26, 2020 12:15:37 GMT -5
It’s really strange about the network.. I have never noticed any network dropouts or connection issues since starting to use it in october last year. Even when using the app while running a 4k movie made any difference. Not that I use it often really. But anytime I start the app it simply works. I lost connectivity some around 1.7 and prior due to lock ups. Since, I have only had a few lock ups. The issue I experience is simply the NIC not initializing upon boot. There's no link light whatsoever. It's dead. It takes a few power cycles to get it "hot" again. Those who can run in VRO mode would rarely experience it because a normal shut down does not turn the NIC off. Only the power switch will. I've been able to run VRO since 1.10, so I haven't had near the frustration with it. It doesn't mean it is fixed... I just haven't had to kill the power anywhere near as much. I was having to kill the power almost daily due to issues. |
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Post by megash0n on Jul 26, 2020 12:24:53 GMT -5
Ok, today makes my second attempt at Dirac. I spent all morning trying to get my sub levels to be close enough to my mains prior to running the measurements again. I will say that the volume level is definitely higher now because I used the default curve and my subs were within a few db of my mains. So, that issue isnt quite as noticeable. As far as what it sounds like, it is essentially the same, just louder. It sounds awful, compressed, and like my room is too heavily treated. It sounds dead as a doornail. Again, I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but this is twice now and I wouldn't show this system off to anyone. It's embarrassingly bad. It actually measures fairly well in Rew.
I have the other preset with levels matched and no PEQ. That sounds a ton better, but not quite as good as before I started all of this.
For those of you that say this sounds better, when you were doing the first part where you adjust the volume of each channel, did you have instances where a channel was up to 3 db off of the "norm"? All of the channels were green and I adjusted them to be as close to -14 as possible because that's what my sub was at.
Lastly, this is more that a volume thing. I can turn it up and it sounds the same... Just louder. I'm going to rewatch some Dirac videos.
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Post by fbczar on Jul 26, 2020 12:40:35 GMT -5
Ok, today makes my second attempt at Dirac. I spent all morning trying to get my sub levels to be close enough to my mains prior to running the measurements again. I will say that the volume level is definitely higher now because I used the default curve and my subs were within a few db of my mains. So, that issue isnt quite as noticeable. As far as what it sounds like, it is essentially the same, just louder. It sounds awful, compressed, and like my room is too heavily treated. It sounds dead as a doornail. Again, I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but this is twice now and I wouldn't show this system off to anyone. It's embarrassingly bad. It actually measures fairly well in Rew. I have the other preset with levels matched and no PEQ. That sounds a ton better, but not quite as good as before I started all of this. For those of you that say this sounds better, when you were doing the first part where you adjust the volume of each channel, did you have instances where a channel was up to 3 db off of the "norm"? All of the channels were green and I adjusted them to be as close to -14 as possible because that's what my sub was at. Lastly, this is more that a volume thing. I can turn it up and it sounds the same... Just louder. I'm going to rewatch some Dirac videos. Have you seen “A Brief Guide to Creating Custom Target Curves with Dirac Live “ By Jerry Austin? If not you should read through it. What measurement pattern are you using? I have always found a tight pattern around the main listening position works well. How many measurements did you take? When you measured was your microphone in line of sight with your speakers? Can you post your measurements? |
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Post by megash0n on Jul 26, 2020 13:33:56 GMT -5
Ok, today makes my second attempt at Dirac. I spent all morning trying to get my sub levels to be close enough to my mains prior to running the measurements again. I will say that the volume level is definitely higher now because I used the default curve and my subs were within a few db of my mains. So, that issue isnt quite as noticeable. As far as what it sounds like, it is essentially the same, just louder. It sounds awful, compressed, and like my room is too heavily treated. It sounds dead as a doornail. Again, I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, but this is twice now and I wouldn't show this system off to anyone. It's embarrassingly bad. It actually measures fairly well in Rew. I have the other preset with levels matched and no PEQ. That sounds a ton better, but not quite as good as before I started all of this. For those of you that say this sounds better, when you were doing the first part where you adjust the volume of each channel, did you have instances where a channel was up to 3 db off of the "norm"? All of the channels were green and I adjusted them to be as close to -14 as possible because that's what my sub was at. Lastly, this is more that a volume thing. I can turn it up and it sounds the same... Just louder. I'm going to rewatch some Dirac videos. Have you seen “A Brief Guide to Creating Custom Target Curves with Dirac Live “ By Jerry Austin? If not you should read through it. What measurement pattern are you using? I have always found a tight pattern around the main listening position works well. How many measurements did you take? When you measured was your microphone in line of sight with your speakers? Can you post your measurements? I'm not taking a ton of measurements yet as I'm trying to make sure something sounds right before taking a dozen or more. I did one with 9 and one with 3 spots for a quick test. I get that more measurements help, but I would think that 3-9 measurements all within 3 feet of my MLP should sound decent. The sound is very muted and dead. I went to the second preset and level matched, set up my crossovers, and deleted all PEQ. This sounds pretty good. One other weird thing is that, after activating the Dirac preset, switching back to the other seems to make it sound messed up too. I have to reboot to get the demons out. Again, I'm sure it is me because too many of you on the beta team seem to think it sounds great. I'll have to get the laptop out and figure out how to get the measurements. First, I'm going to watch the videos again to make sure I'm not missing something. |
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Post by megash0n on Jul 26, 2020 14:11:56 GMT -5
After running measurements and exporting filters, is anyone seeing the "corrected" Information? When I view the Set target or the Impulse response tab, nothing shows up when I select corrected. All corrected impulse responses are empty. Is this normal? Watching videos, I'm seeing people be able to compare the before and after of each.
Edit: after clicking the button at the bottom middle that lets you "revert" back to a specific time, I could then see impulse response and filters "after"
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Post by ttocs on Jul 26, 2020 14:30:13 GMT -5
After running measurements and exporting filters, is anyone seeing the "corrected" Information? When I view the Set target or the Impulse response tab, nothing shows up when I select corrected. All corrected impulse responses are empty. Is this normal? Watching videos, I'm seeing people be able to compare the before and after of each. Yes. I see corrected info when the box is checked. |
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Post by Lonnie on Jul 26, 2020 15:06:37 GMT -5
I'll second what Markc said. In my XMC-1 calibrations I went all over the place with customizing the curves to try to get them flatter and found the sorts of volume changes that you're seeing. First recommendation: First try taking the Dirac default curve and flattening the ends ... i.e. leave the center line and pull the bass down flat and the high end up flat. Live with a flat curve a while before experimenting with bass boost. Second recommendation: Read Floyd Toole's explanation of the Harman curves. www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/some-comments-from-floyd-toole-about-room-curve-targets-room-eq-and-more.10950/I thought about your subwoofer volume issue. Silly question, but did you check to be sure that the gain is all the way up and the crossovers are set to max? 9 measurements should be fine, but be sure they are spread at least 18-24" apart. If a flat curve still sounds wrong, measure again with the points further apart. I think the harmon curve brought everything else down due to my subs being way too low. This would explain the roughly 20 db difference after. In relation to the subs, I have XLR to a balanced minidsp. That feeds a Behringer EP4000 amp with two sub outputs. There are no crossovers engaged on the amp. The gain typically stays around 3/4 mark, but I may have had it closer to half when I measured. The 2 subs are 12" TC Sounds LMS-R (1000 watts RMS) . The EP 4000 supposedly puts out 950 watts RMS in stereo at 4 ohms. I'm not sure if I just have something wrong or I need to wire this amp in bridged to run a single sub and just turn the gain down some as to not push too much power. I do have another cheaper Behringer amp that will likely deliver enough to run the other if I bridge it. Regardless though, I would think I have enough amp to play these things well. With everything zeroed out, and the amp gain at the halfway mark, my subs play at least 10db lower than the mains using the tones on the RMC. I’m trying to get a handle on your system to better understand. So you are going out of the processor to a Mini DSP and then to the amps? Is that correct? Thanks, Lonnie |
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Post by megash0n on Jul 26, 2020 15:52:39 GMT -5
I think the harmon curve brought everything else down due to my subs being way too low. This would explain the roughly 20 db difference after. In relation to the subs, I have XLR to a balanced minidsp. That feeds a Behringer EP4000 amp with two sub outputs. There are no crossovers engaged on the amp. The gain typically stays around 3/4 mark, but I may have had it closer to half when I measured. The 2 subs are 12" TC Sounds LMS-R (1000 watts RMS) . The EP 4000 supposedly puts out 950 watts RMS in stereo at 4 ohms. I'm not sure if I just have something wrong or I need to wire this amp in bridged to run a single sub and just turn the gain down some as to not push too much power. I do have another cheaper Behringer amp that will likely deliver enough to run the other if I bridge it. Regardless though, I would think I have enough amp to play these things well. With everything zeroed out, and the amp gain at the halfway mark, my subs play at least 10db lower than the mains using the tones on the RMC. I’m trying to get a handle on your system to better understand. So you are going out of the processor to a Mini DSP and then to the amps? Is that correct? Thanks, Lonnie Thanks Lonnie. I have minimized this issue some by switching the miniDSP input jumper to 2V instead of 4V which doesn't make a ton of sense to me, but it gave me roughly 5dB more sound by doing so. To answer your question, my RMC-1 uses Emotiva XLR cables to a Gen 2 XPA-5 and a Gen 3 XPA four. All speakers are Emotiva. The Center Sub outputs thru a handmade XLR cable that feeds a MiniDSP 2x4 Balanced on input 1. The MiniDSP connects output 1 & 2 to a Behringer EP4000 amp via XLR cables. The EP4000 is in stereo mode supposedly outputing 950 watts RMS (each) to a pair of sealed 12" TC Sounds LMS-R subs. These subs are rate at 1000 watts RMS each. I have used MSO to combine the two subs in a very acceptable way using a "flat or no curve". After all my efforts on this, and all levels set to zero, the center sub is still roughly 5dB less than the mains using the test tones on the processor. I reran Dirac quickly selecting only (3) measurement points at my MLP because I wanted to see if bringing the subs up helped. ( They were previously about 10-12 dB less ). Overall, the volume was much better. Just maybe a few dB less than a non-Dirac preset. I somewhat expect this since it has to either cut or raise something. I exported using the default Dirac curve and also exported another using the Harmon 4db for all speakers and the +6dB for the Center sub. These new tests sound much better than the first test, but the whole thing still sounds really bad. The room sounds like every inch of the walls and ceiling have been treated. There is almost no ambient noise. It sounds as if the dialogue has been extracted and is playing over top of a muted version of the rest of the track. Everything sounds muffled but also discreet which makes no sense in how I'm trying to explain it. It is really hard to explain what I'm experiencing. The wife got in from a trip about an hour ago and walked into the room and said it sounded awful. I've watched (3) Dirac videos in the past 2 hours. I've looked at all the target curves. Nothing seems to any different than what I'm seeing other people do. Maybe I don't know what this stuff is actually supposed to sound like. Maybe I'm so used to a room having some liveliness that I can't appreciate how it is supposed to sound. I can tell you I don't like it even a little. My other preset with only levels matched and crossovers set sounds pretty darn good. It sounded better when I had some PEQ in, but I've kinda lost all that and need to rerun all those measurements in REW to have a PEQ based preset. I guess what I'm saying is that between what I'm hearing with Dirac so far, I'd take no filters 100 times out of 100. It is night and day different. At any rate, thanks for asking and trying to help! I'll keep trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong. |
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Post by ttocs on Jul 26, 2020 16:00:19 GMT -5
The room sounds like every inch of the walls and ceiling have been treated. There is almost no ambient noise. It sounds as if the dialogue has been extracted and is playing over top of a muted version of the rest of the track. Everything sounds muffled but also discreet which makes no sense in how I'm trying to explain it. Could it be a Phase issue? Does it sound like it's "in your head"? |
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Post by megash0n on Jul 26, 2020 16:05:17 GMT -5
The room sounds like every inch of the walls and ceiling have been treated. There is almost no ambient noise. It sounds as if the dialogue has been extracted and is playing over top of a muted version of the rest of the track. Everything sounds muffled but also discreet which makes no sense in how I'm trying to explain it. Could it be a Phase issue? Does it sound like it's "in your head"? I don't know that I would describe it like that. I will say that it seems to have shrunken the sound so much that it all seems to compressed around the center channel. It isn't that I don't hear other speakers, but they are very discreet. It's so quiet. I can switch to the other preset and hear so much additional sound and ambiance. I don't know how to describe it other than the room just sounds very dead now on the Dirac preset. When looking at the impulse response tabs, most all of the speakers moved out to 20-30 ms instead of something closer to zero. If that makes sense. |
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