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Post by 5channels on Jul 11, 2020 8:06:49 GMT -5
I tried a small test by entering fake details as Tony Pepperoni and a sightly altered MAC address. I got direct to a Thank You page with the following message:
"Your device information is submitted. Once the new firmware is approved, it will be automatically sent to your device and you will be able to use the new feature."
Cheers
J
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Post by megash0n on Jul 11, 2020 8:18:05 GMT -5
I can't recall where these debates were occurring, but the interface is clearly a Pi 4 in Damon's YouTube video. I think someone else pointed this out before me, but others have insisted it isn't a Pi or a Pi 4. Just look at the interface. It uses USB C power and has 2 micro HDMI Ports on the side. No other Pi has this layout. |
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Post by klinemj on Jul 11, 2020 8:54:34 GMT -5
I can't recall where these debates were occurring, but the interface is clearly a Pi 4 in Damon's YouTube video. I think someone else pointed this out before me, but others have insisted it isn't a Pi or a Pi 4. Just look at the interface. It uses USB C power and has 2 micro HDMI Ports on the side. No other Pi has this layout. Seems likely to me - the main thing that's special will be the code to take the filters and write it to the processor. If that's the case, folks will be able to use the PI as a roon-ready endpoint by just swapping out the MicroSD card to one with the appropriate OS on it - like RoPieee or others. Mark |
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Post by steelman1991 on Jul 11, 2020 8:54:54 GMT -5
I can't recall where these debates were occurring, but the interface is clearly a Pi 4 in Damon's YouTube video. I think someone else pointed this out before me, but others have insisted it isn't a Pi or a Pi 4. Just look at the interface. It uses USB C power and has 2 micro HDMI Ports on the side. No other Pi has this layout. Be nice to put these debates to bed - by actually having the device out with their customers 🤦♂️ |
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Post by dwander on Jul 11, 2020 9:17:26 GMT -5
They also don’t mention registering your MAC address on the YouTube video. So maybe you don’t have to. I never used Dirac before, so I downloaded the software, created and account, and looks like all thats needed is the license number which is supposed to come with Dirac kit I think.
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Post by megash0n on Jul 11, 2020 10:09:40 GMT -5
They also don’t mention registering your MAC address on the YouTube video. So maybe you don’t have to. I never used Dirac before, so I downloaded the software, created and account, and looks like all thats needed is the license number which is supposed to come with Dirac kit I think. well....the MAC address is necessary from my understanding, but I'll just let that info come out from official means if necessary. |
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Post by megash0n on Jul 11, 2020 10:24:20 GMT -5
I can't recall where these debates were occurring, but the interface is clearly a Pi 4 in Damon's YouTube video. I think someone else pointed this out before me, but others have insisted it isn't a Pi or a Pi 4. Just look at the interface. It uses USB C power and has 2 micro HDMI Ports on the side. No other Pi has this layout. Be nice to put these debates to bed - by actually having the device out with their customers 🤦♂️ I've become so underwhelmed by all of this that I almost don't care anymore. I do hope they deliver on all promises including DBC. At this point, if this platform cannot sustain cutting edge capabilities thru upgrades for a period of 7-10 years AFTER all day 1 promises are fulfilled, I personally will not be investing in this company nor recommending them to the thousands of people each year I advise in technology related items. Disappointment is the most appropriate term I can think of right now. On the Pi side.. Unless they used something different for the video, the box has the Pi symbol, and it definitively has the ports and port layout of a Pi 4. Given this has Bluetooth 5.0, HDMI, etc etc... This COULD be an opportunity to leverage this hardware developing a different SD card with a solution to stream and to do other items that have been discussed in the past. It really doesn't make a ton of sense to develop a slide in component that potentially uses the same hardware they have given us for free. This also would only serve those of us with the rmc-1. At the end of the day, I don't think I'd do any of it. I think I would do a nice video showing how to leverage the Dirac interface, using a new card, to install and use a solution that enables Bluetooth streaming and all those other features. JRiver also appears to run really well on a Pi 4. |
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Post by Lsc on Jul 11, 2020 14:17:07 GMT -5
They also don’t mention registering your MAC address on the YouTube video. So maybe you don’t have to. I never used Dirac before, so I downloaded the software, created and account, and looks like all thats needed is the license number which is supposed to come with Dirac kit I think. well....the MAC address is necessary from my understanding, but I'll just let that info come out from official means if necessary. Mine too. |
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Post by 5channels on Jul 11, 2020 14:26:43 GMT -5
MAC address ties registration to the unit at the hardware layer, like the serial number on your sales receipt.
I am pretty sure it is a requirement
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Post by megash0n on Jul 11, 2020 15:22:35 GMT -5
I can't recall where these debates were occurring, but the interface is clearly a Pi 4 in Damon's YouTube video. I think someone else pointed this out before me, but others have insisted it isn't a Pi or a Pi 4. Just look at the interface. It uses USB C power and has 2 micro HDMI Ports on the side. No other Pi has this layout. Seems likely to me - the main thing that's special will be the code to take the filters and write it to the processor. If that's the case, folks will be able to use the PI as a roon-ready endpoint by just swapping out the MicroSD card to one with the appropriate OS on it - like RoPieee or others. Mark The options are pretty cool. I'm unsure if there is an actual need for me, but I will certainly toy around with it. I actually could use a Pi to run my networking software to offload it from my PC. |
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Post by megash0n on Jul 11, 2020 15:23:42 GMT -5
MAC address ties registration to the unit at the hardware layer, like the serial number on your sales receipt. I am pretty sure it is a requirement Cheers J It is. |
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Post by Thunderduck on Jul 12, 2020 15:50:14 GMT -5
If Emotiva is now mailing out the Dirac Kits, I would suspect that they may be doing it in "purchase date" order or some such thing. The first folks that bought the RMC will be the first to get the kits. At least that seems like what would be a reasonable way to do it. Just have to wait and see I guess.
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Post by 5channels on Jul 12, 2020 16:02:28 GMT -5
If Emotiva is now mailing out the Dirac Kits, I would suspect that they may be doing it in "purchase date" order or some such thing. The first folks that bought the RMC will be the first to get the kits. At least that seems like what would be a reasonable way to do it. Just have to wait and see I guess. Make sense to me, although I imagine we are not talking in the millions here, especially now that Stamp Licking is a profession no more  Cheers J |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 12, 2020 17:27:45 GMT -5
If Emotiva is now mailing out the Dirac Kits, I would suspect that they may be doing it in "purchase date" order or some such thing. The first folks that bought the RMC will be the first to get the kits. At least that seems like what would be a reasonable way to do it. Just have to wait and see I guess. I didn’t mean to imply that any more than the Beta group had been shipped, but I consider that a shipment and know they are in use. We should take this topic over to Hair Nick’s thread, as it’s about shipping the kit, and he will certainly have the inside info, I will post my thoughts on the order there. emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/56556/dirac-live-success-last |
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Post by Hair Nick on Jul 12, 2020 20:12:45 GMT -5
We are determining a rollout timeline internally since we feel extremely comfortable with Dirac running on the processor thanks to our amazing beta team. There are things behind the scenes that we have to finalize before we hit the button. Thank you all for you patience.
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Post by marcl on Jul 13, 2020 12:14:45 GMT -5
So here's a rare "on topic" topic ... Dirac Live bass management strategies without Dirac Bass Control. Sure, we may get DBC someday but it won't be any time soon and until then we can get a TON of value out of Dirac. Impulse Response correction is important and a unique feature. But the equalization is what concerns us most, and honestly it's the only part that we interact with and can make some decisions about.
Here are issues to think about: If you have more than one sub, Dirac measures them individually and corrects the response individually. Dirac does not measure and correct multiple subs together, nor does it consider full range speakers that can operate in the same range as subs.
I had a couple different ways of dealing with this with the XMC-1, including Y cables and miniDSP. Interested in hearing others' thoughts as we get closer.
Also ... is anyone using separate speakers for bass management and LFE? Is anyone using a sub below 40-50Hz and some other speaker in the mid-upper bass range up to 200Hz in order to get better bass managed response for center and surrounds?
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Post by foggy1956 on Jul 13, 2020 12:26:41 GMT -5
So here's a rare "on topic" topic ... Dirac Live bass management strategies without Dirac Bass Control. Sure, we may get DBC someday but it won't be any time soon and until then we can get a TON of value out of Dirac. Impulse Response correction is important and a unique feature. But the equalization is what concerns us most, and honestly it's the only part that we interact with and can make some decisions about. Here are issues to think about: If you have more than one sub, Dirac measures them individually and corrects the response individually. Dirac does not measure and correct multiple subs together, nor does it consider full range speakers that can operate in the same range as subs. I had a couple different ways of dealing with this with the XMC-1, including Y cables and miniDSP. Interested in hearing others' thoughts as we get closer. Also ... is anyone using separate speakers for bass management and LFE? Is anyone using a sub below 40-50Hz and some other speaker in the mid-upper bass range up to 200Hz in order to get better bass managed response for center and surrounds? Question if I may, my towers play down to 20hz, for HT only how do I mix them with my subs while using Dirac? |
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Post by marcl on Jul 13, 2020 13:46:31 GMT -5
So here's a rare "on topic" topic ... Dirac Live bass management strategies without Dirac Bass Control. Sure, we may get DBC someday but it won't be any time soon and until then we can get a TON of value out of Dirac. Impulse Response correction is important and a unique feature. But the equalization is what concerns us most, and honestly it's the only part that we interact with and can make some decisions about. Here are issues to think about: If you have more than one sub, Dirac measures them individually and corrects the response individually. Dirac does not measure and correct multiple subs together, nor does it consider full range speakers that can operate in the same range as subs. I had a couple different ways of dealing with this with the XMC-1, including Y cables and miniDSP. Interested in hearing others' thoughts as we get closer. Also ... is anyone using separate speakers for bass management and LFE? Is anyone using a sub below 40-50Hz and some other speaker in the mid-upper bass range up to 200Hz in order to get better bass managed response for center and surrounds? Question if I may, my towers play down to 20hz, for HT only how do I mix them with my subs while using Dirac? I'm assuming you use the Double Impacts as your L/R for two channel and for HT? Seems like you'd set the Double Impacts as Large and not cross to the sub. The other speakers look like they respond down 40Hz so debatable whether you'd cross them over to the sub, but if you did it would be at 40Hz to maybe get down to 20, right? The sub always gets the LFE with HT, none of that goes to the other speakers. If you just have one sub this is straight forward. Dirac corrects each speaker and the sub and it should work great. If you have more then one sub then you get into the debate of whether to connect them to one sub output with a Y or miniDSP. |
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jul 13, 2020 14:04:46 GMT -5
So here's a rare "on topic" topic ... Dirac Live bass management strategies without Dirac Bass Control. Sure, we may get DBC someday but it won't be any time soon and until then we can get a TON of value out of Dirac. Impulse Response correction is important and a unique feature. But the equalization is what concerns us most, and honestly it's the only part that we interact with and can make some decisions about. Here are issues to think about: If you have more than one sub, Dirac measures them individually and corrects the response individually. Dirac does not measure and correct multiple subs together, nor does it consider full range speakers that can operate in the same range as subs. I had a couple different ways of dealing with this with the XMC-1, including Y cables and miniDSP. Interested in hearing others' thoughts as we get closer. Also ... is anyone using separate speakers for bass management and LFE? Is anyone using a sub below 40-50Hz and some other speaker in the mid-upper bass range up to 200Hz in order to get better bass managed response for center and surrounds? This is a good topic, and thank you for bringing it up again. With my XMC-1 I tended to follow the old school ‘stereo’ bass option for my two channel preset and dual symmetrical subs, and for the HT/Dirac preset both subs set to mono or dual mono. With the RMC I’m relieved of the stress of choosing stereo and have them both set for dual mono (cabled to the L&R sub outs). However, based on what you and others have written, I’m going to add a Y cable and try running them as a group (patched to the center out). I’ll probably take some near field and listening position measurements before and after. I’m hoping Dirac will do a better job dealing with them as a single channel. They are still positioned symmetrically outside of all my front speakers, and that’s their home. Hopefully I’ll get the Y installed in the next day or so. |
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Post by donh50 on Jul 13, 2020 14:15:52 GMT -5
A Y cable will in general only work if the subs are symmetrically and equally positioned from the MLP otherwise you need some way to adjust the delay/phase of at least one sub so the sound arrives in-phase at the MLP. My subs have phase adjustment, as do some others, but be aware you might need an extra step.
I ave run my subs in stereo and dual-mono and stuck with dual mono. I just don't have enough (if any) source content that actually uses stereo bass in the subwoofer region and getting stereo subs properly integrated was a PITA. If you can't localize the sound so low in frequency, and crossover before you can, I just don't see the point in a practical sense. I ultimately abandoned all hope of stereo when I went to four subs and have not missed it.
DBC is a different beast entirely...
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