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Post by Gary Cook on Aug 27, 2020 16:18:12 GMT -5
KeithLI have been running my Emotiva XSP-1 G2 for about four years to date. Aside from a turn-on failure in late 2017 which required factory repair under warranty, I have been very happy with it. Can you please describe the “turn on failure”? Mine has developed an issue that it shuts down completely (lights out) when I try and switch from standby (orange light) to powered on (blue light). It flashes blue for a millisecond then switches off completely. Requires a power off switch at the rear to get back to standby. Returning it from Australia is not really an option, but I can do a board swap if that’s what it needs. Cheers Gary
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Post by ronf on Aug 28, 2020 18:47:38 GMT -5
KeithL I have been running my Emotiva XSP-1 G2 for about four years to date. Aside from a turn-on failure in late 2017 which required factory repair under warranty, I have been very happy with it. Can you please describe the “turn on failure”? Mine has developed an issue that it shuts down completely (lights out) when I try and switch from standby (orange light) to powered on (blue light). It flashes blue for a millisecond then switches off completely. Requires a power off switch at the rear to get back to standby. Returning it from Australia is not really an option, but I can do a board swap if that’s what it needs. Cheers Gary I had something similar: when attempting to bring the unit up from standby, the front panel LED would flash blue for a moment, and then switch off. The factory told me it was a capacitor in the power supply that had "dried out" and they replaced it under warranty. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you which capacitor it was. To be honest, I have been somewhat apprehensive about leaving the preamp in standby mode ever since! Something I have noticed since then however is that the dot-matrix display has been getting dimmer over time. It is not dim enough to be a problem yet, but I wonder if it will eventually be so dim someday that I cannot read it. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Aug 28, 2020 20:44:15 GMT -5
KeithL Can you please describe the “turn on failure”? Mine has developed an issue that it shuts down completely (lights out) when I try and switch from standby (orange light) to powered on (blue light). It flashes blue for a millisecond then switches off completely. Requires a power off switch at the rear to get back to standby. Returning it from Australia is not really an option, but I can do a board swap if that’s what it needs. I had something similar: when attempting to bring the unit up from standby, the front panel LED would flash blue for a moment, and then switch off. The factory told me it was a capacitor in the power supply that had "dried out" and they replaced it under warranty. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you which capacitor it was. To be honest, I have been somewhat apprehensive about leaving the preamp in standby mode ever since! Something I have noticed since then however is that the dot-matrix display has been getting dimmer over time. It is not dim enough to be a problem yet, but I wonder if it will eventually be so dim someday that I cannot read it. Thanks for that information, I have emailed Service and hopefully they can supply me with the necessary information and/or parts to fix it. Cheers Gary |
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Post by entilzha on Sept 28, 2020 13:51:02 GMT -5
Sad to see it be discontinued, happy to know another is in the works.
I've been enjoying my XSP-1 Gen 1 since the beginning, and it's still the core of my system being fed by my Oppo. The Oppo is used as my DAC effectively, but it doesn't have enough inputs now to truly handle everything and I still have to play musical remotes to get things to play nice, like my AppleTV -> Oppo -> XSP1 -> Amps. If I added an HTPC or anything else, not sure how I'd wire it up. In the HT receiver business there's less than a handful that do an HDMI stereo receiver. I see that as a nice hole to fill.
Maybe Emotiva can do a standalone HDMI DAC? Not sure what might make sense there.
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Post by DavidR on Sept 28, 2020 18:00:23 GMT -5
It looks like Emotiva is killing the “high end” 2ch part of the business. I think it's their bread and butter and just might be upgrading to stay ahead of the curve. |
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Post by richtx6 on Jan 9, 2021 0:14:53 GMT -5
I just bought an XSP-1 the first of December, Gen 2, and really have enjoyed it and talked to Lonnie today and he said the new one is coming out sometime in last spring or summer. The only difference is that the new one is going have all the crap on it like a DAC, a butch of streaming junk on it that people like me don't need. 25$ bluetooth adapter in the analog inputs and you're good. Any music service will work. listing to it now and sounds great on my Dahlquist DQ 10"s Martin Logan SL3's and my SVS Ultra towers, Kef Q150's, depending on what I'm listing to, and SVS SB 4000. I got luck and they had a few during the holiday sale. Plus 20% buck that I used on at SP-1 which I don't need and 2 tee shirts that are pretty cool.
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Post by richtx6 on Jan 9, 2021 0:21:10 GMT -5
By the way I replaced a USP-1 and still have that hooked to a UPA-700 for 2 channel and an LMC1 hooked to the same amp for 3.1 on set of XQ`'s and Kef R150 center and for the USP-2 off 2 other channels off the UPA 700 with a set of KEF Q150's and SVS 2000 for 2.1 and sounds great.. Not a bad office system with my Pioneer Kuro Elite.
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Post by mack71 on Jan 9, 2021 4:32:07 GMT -5
I just bought an XSP-1 the first of December, Gen 2, and really have enjoyed it and talked to Lonnie today and he said the new one is coming out sometime in last spring or summer. The only difference is that the new one is going have all the crap on it like a DAC, a butch of streaming junk on it that people like me don't need. 25$ bluetooth adapter in the analog inputs and you're good. Any music service will work. listing to it now and sounds great on my Dahlquist DQ 10"s Martin Logan SL3's and my SVS Ultra towers, Kef Q150's, depending on what I'm listing to, and SVS SB 4000. I got luck and they had a few during the holiday sale. Plus 20% buck that I used on at SP-1 which I don't need and 2 tee shirts that are pretty cool. Really ?...it could be a hit, ... we are waiting for official information, ... Keithl ?  |
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Post by leonski on Jan 15, 2021 2:32:32 GMT -5
I have but one, not very significant question. 😏 At what price point were you calculating this unit to be? Hi novisnick - With increases in unit sales, and with decreases in parts cost, I would hope that the XSP-1 replacement would be somewhere between $1k and $1.5k. Price it any lower, and nobody will take it seriously; any higher, and there's too much competition. And DO NOT minimize the importance of your question - Pricing may be THE most critical factor in the success or failure of Emotiva's new preamp. Or not - I'm not a marketing analyst... Parasound P5 started at 1000$ while the P6, with some minimal additional features and a better DAC is about 1600$ No qualms about SQ and the 'retired' P3 still gets nibbles at resale time. The XSP-2 'Improved' could even go as high as 2 large IF you made a point of some really premium 'name brand' parts. Vishay Film Resistors. Alps Vol Control. Elna PS caps. And more. Make a point of High MTBF semiconductors, too...... |
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Post by brubacca on Jan 15, 2021 7:30:16 GMT -5
When Emotiva was showing the Emersa line of products a couple years ago the 2ch pre was supposedly ready. They should just ramp that design up and release it.
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Post by selind40 on Jan 15, 2021 10:33:59 GMT -5
I've got one ( XSP-1 G 2 ) that I'm considering letting go off for a reasonable price ( given it's known issue ). I'm just waiting on the Schiit Freya+ to arrive and implement into the system.
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Post by KeithL on Jan 15, 2021 11:53:03 GMT -5
It will be soon... but the details are still being worked out.
I just bought an XSP-1 the first of December, Gen 2, and really have enjoyed it and talked to Lonnie today and he said the new one is coming out sometime in last spring or summer. The only difference is that the new one is going have all the crap on it like a DAC, a butch of streaming junk on it that people like me don't need. 25$ bluetooth adapter in the analog inputs and you're good. Any music service will work. listing to it now and sounds great on my Dahlquist DQ 10"s Martin Logan SL3's and my SVS Ultra towers, Kef Q150's, depending on what I'm listing to, and SVS SB 4000. I got luck and they had a few during the holiday sale. Plus 20% buck that I used on at SP-1 which I don't need and 2 tee shirts that are pretty cool. Really ?...it could be a hit, ... we are waiting for official information, ... Keithl ? |
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Post by leonski on Jan 15, 2021 14:31:57 GMT -5
I hope EMO doen't try a lowball on the new pre.
They'll be competing with an extensive Used Market with some pretty good stuff going out for good discounts.
Priced fair, in the mainstream with a good featureset is key. Value Added features MUST be #1 consideration.
Even Semi-Parametric tone controls are on the table. Or some kind of processor loop. Subsonic filter for the Phono input.
All sorts of gilding for this lily.
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Post by DavidR on Oct 25, 2021 18:04:17 GMT -5
Not to let imaginations run wild here: We are working on an XSP-2. It will stay pure analog and exceed the capabilities and performance of the previous unit. Nothing nefarious going on here. We got to the end of our commitment of the XSP-1 G2 and instead of renewing it, we decided it was time to take a step back and find ways to improve it in every aspect. We don't have any sort of timing on when this will be ready. Note: We aren't running away from two-channel audio. We are very much aware of our glaring hole that is DACs at the moment. We are working on that too. Any updates that you can share on the release of the XSP-2 G1 ? - or - Any features you can spill the beans on ?
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Post by audiobill on Oct 26, 2021 11:16:26 GMT -5
Since an important part of a dac is the power supply and analog output stage, why not include a dac in this preamp that presumably will have robust versions of both? Look to the McIntosh C2500, c2600, c2700 for inspiration.
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Post by audiobill on Oct 26, 2021 16:01:41 GMT -5
And other marques not requiring “rethinking”
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Post by wrxified on Dec 16, 2022 12:12:42 GMT -5
It will be soon... but the details are still being worked out.
Anything ever come of the supposed replacement? Last I see is Keith saying something soon a couple years ago. I don’t see anything on Emotiva’s site that looks like a replacement. |
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Post by audiosyndrome on Dec 16, 2022 15:48:47 GMT -5
In August a little birdie in Tennessee told me that an all Analog XSP-2 should be available in a few months. A complete redo of the XSP-1. 👍 So should be available very soon.
Russ
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Post by Boomzilla on Dec 16, 2022 16:00:44 GMT -5
If it were easy... Anyone could do it.
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Post by dislocatedday on May 25, 2023 12:05:14 GMT -5
Is there any update on whether a next generation XSP stereo preamplifier is still something Emotiva is looking at releasing in the (hopefully near) future?
I have happily been using a USP-1 since it was released back around 2010. It has been great, and is one of the best bargains of any stereo equipment I have ever bought. It has all the features I need in a preamplifier (HT bypass, phono preamp, tape out, high and low pass crossovers, multiple inputs), as outside of Emotiva only Parasound has preamplifiers with all these capabilities.
The only things I had found wanting with the USP-1 are 1) the volume control which gets loud quickly and does not allow very fine control; and 2) it can sound a little harsh in the upper mid-range and high frequencies, particularly as volume is increased.
So, I reached a point where I intended to replace it with the XSP-1 which based on all the feedback I read has a superb volume control with the analog resistor ladder, as well as having a smoother upper mid-range and high end. The XSP-1 gen 2 was no longer being made by Emotiva though, so I intended to wait until the next generation X-series preamplifier was released.
After 3 years though I did not want to keep waiting, so I was able to recently buy locally a used, but in good shape, XSP-1 gen 2 at a good price......and wow am I floored by the performance of it. The volume control is a huge improvement which I expected, but I was not expecting to find it this much better sounding than the USP-1. The XSP-1 sounds more open and much more dynamic than the USP-1. The soundstage is wider, deeper, and just overall bigger sounding. It makes the USP-1 sound flat and compressed by comparison. The phono section is also improved from the USP-1.
I would have loved to have spent my money directly with Emotiva for a new and under warranty next generation XSP, but I just did not want to wait any longer as I am not getting any younger and I listen to a lot of stereo music that I want to enjoy to the fullest extent possible.
I may still buy a next gen XSP if and when they are released, but there has really been no indication from Emotiva that this is even still something that is being pursued for production and release in the marketplace. Maybe stereo preamps are just a dying product these days, and it does not make business sense for companies to design, build, and sell them at reasonable price points.
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I have been running my Emotiva XSP-1 G2 for about four years to date. Aside from a turn-on failure in late 2017 which required factory repair under warranty, I have been very happy with it.
