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Post by quattroll on Nov 7, 2020 22:07:53 GMT -5
Hi Guys,
I just picked up a pair of B&Ws (XT2) that I am using in a bedroom. I bought them specifically because the are small and play very big, my Marantz NR1401 calibrated them to 40hz. I manually changed that back to 60 though. They also screw onto their heavy custom stands.
One tweeter has been crinkled, probably the result of being pushed in, then removed and pushed back out. The speaker plays and I am happy with the sound. I have taken it apart, and smoothed it over as best I can. I know the issue and the replacement part number. The speaker sounds very good and a brief test did not reveal anything wrong. I wonder if the calibration tool would have exposed a problem.
The question: does this mean I should order a replace asap? If I do that should I order two and have both new? I don’t want to spend extra but I will with enough feedback. There is no damage other than the actual dome, which unfortunately is not a single item, I believe.
I guess it comes down to “if it works, is it working properly?”
What do you guys think? Many thanks.
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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 8, 2020 7:41:15 GMT -5
99% decorative, move on, nothing to worry about.
Cheers Gary
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Post by 405x5 on Nov 8, 2020 8:36:28 GMT -5
Hi Guys, I just picked up a pair of B&Ws (XT2) that I am using in a bedroom. I bought them specifically because the are small and play very big, my Marantz NR1401 calibrated them to 40hz. I manually changed that back to 60 though. They also screw onto their heavy custom stands. One tweeter has been crinkled, probably the result of being pushed in, then removed and pushed back out. The speaker plays and I am happy with the sound. I have taken it apart, and smoothed it over as best I can. I know the issue and the replacement part number. The speaker sounds very good and a brief test did not reveal anything wrong. I wonder if the calibration tool would have exposed a problem. The question: does this mean I should order a replace asap? If I do that should I order two and have both new? I don’t want to spend extra but I will with enough feedback. There is no damage other than the actual dome, which unfortunately is not a single item, I believe. I guess it comes down to “if it works, is it working properly?” What do you guys think? Many thanks. Already you know that nothing has to be done if it works and sounds fine. I would fix it immediately (personally) because I’m nuts about such things. I don’t like having drivers that show any physical damage regardless of what they sound like (that’s just me). I really like the sound of today’s B&W....a huge improvement over the earlier systems from the Eighties. I own Allison at the moment, and they went big into the protection mode for their tweeters and midrange drivers. All of mine have protective metal screens that shield from everyday abuse of the real world. Not bulletproof, but you would have to really bang the speakers with considerable force to mash those things. Bill
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Post by leonski on Nov 19, 2020 0:12:21 GMT -5
IF you feel the urge to replace what is apparently a working tweeter, I'd replace BOTH. One in each, so they'd match.....
BTW? How much $$$ does B&W get for the part?
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 19, 2020 8:41:08 GMT -5
Put the grill on the speaker so you don't have to look at it and then forget that it's dimpled. I recently had a pair of B&W DM-630 speakers with one tweeter dimpled - I couldn't tell any difference. I did try to use the vacuum method of pulling out the dent, but it wouldn't work because I could never get any seal against the front panel. I've "un-dented" soft domes before with a pin, but dented or not - they still sounded the same.
In short, don't worry about it.
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Post by leonski on Nov 19, 2020 14:05:10 GMT -5
Put the grill on the speaker so you don't have to look at it and then forget that it's dimpled. I recently had a pair of B&W DM-630 speakers with one tweeter dimpled - I couldn't tell any difference. I did try to use the vacuum method of pulling out the dent, but it wouldn't work because I could never get any seal against the front panel. I've "un-dented" soft domes before with a pin, but dented or not - they still sounded the same. In short, don't worry about it. I've heard of TAPE being used to pull out a dent. Is that correct?
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Post by cawgijoe on Nov 19, 2020 14:38:39 GMT -5
Put the grill on the speaker so you don't have to look at it and then forget that it's dimpled. I recently had a pair of B&W DM-630 speakers with one tweeter dimpled - I couldn't tell any difference. I did try to use the vacuum method of pulling out the dent, but it wouldn't work because I could never get any seal against the front panel. I've "un-dented" soft domes before with a pin, but dented or not - they still sounded the same. In short, don't worry about it. I've heard of TAPE being used to pull out a dent. Is that correct? Tape can work....or not. I had a dented tweeter on one of my Thiel CS 1.6's a few years ago. I accidently did it while tightening screws. I heard no difference in sound, but it drove me nuts. I ended up ordering a new tweeter kit from Rob Gillum who works repairing Thiel speakers and with his direction, repaired it myself. This was not the whole tweeter, it was the dome. The problem with trying to push out a Thiel CS 1.6 tweeter is that they are metal, so you will never get the kink out. Only did one...cost me $100 and I can't tell any sound difference between the original, older tweeter and this newer one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 14:50:52 GMT -5
Don't know if anyone has recommended but a little hot glue on an end of a stick like object works for some. Just use the hot glue sparingly and after pulling the dent out twist the stick to break the stick's grip.
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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 19, 2020 17:05:27 GMT -5
Don't know if anyone has recommended but a little hot glue on an end of a stick like object works for some. Just use the hot glue sparingly and after pulling the dent out twist the stick to break the stick's grip. I'd forgotten this one - a matchstick works fine.
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Post by 405x5 on Nov 19, 2020 18:59:17 GMT -5
Works every time....
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