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Post by Boomzilla on Nov 29, 2020 9:03:51 GMT -5
I've used ATC products with good results.
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Post by klinemj on Nov 29, 2020 10:05:11 GMT -5
I've used ATC products with good results. Did you mean ATS? I can find some by ATS but not ATC so far. Thanks, Mark
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Post by daveczski65 on Nov 29, 2020 10:22:59 GMT -5
Yes he meant ATS,I bought all the materials from them and made my own panels. Pretty easy,wound up being about 43 a panel to make 6 panels. Used 2in material. 2x4 panels
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Post by rbk123 on Nov 29, 2020 10:32:00 GMT -5
You could cover the hole with some masonite. It is thin and light enough that you could use finish nails in the drywall to the depth of the board, and drill holes in it so you could hang it flush and remove it when needed. Like hanging pictures.
Btw, know of any good links showing your mudding technique where you don’t need to sand? That would be a useful skill I’d like to have.
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Post by klinemj on Nov 29, 2020 10:48:19 GMT -5
You could cover the hole with some masonite. It is thin and light enough that you could use finish nails in the drywall to the depth of the board, and drill holes in it so you could hang it flush and remove it when needed. Like hanging pictures. Btw, know of any good links showing your mudding technique where you don’t need to sand? That would be a useful skill I’d like to have. I learned pre-internet...but the keys are: 1) start with good framing, 2) when working with the mud - get it good and creamy then lay down a good load (with a narrow blade) where you plan toe tape, then come back over the tape with a nice wide blade to even out the tape and ensure a smooth/level layer of mud. Once that dries, again - creamy mud, wide blade, and lay down a thin, smooth layer. Worse case, you might need a wet sponge to feather out any uneven bits. It's easy - just takes discipline. I once had to do a 3 story, 100' long wall inside a factory in which presence of dust was a total no-no. They put me and Kenny on the job and we pulled it off. (And, if you are really good, you can work around #1 not being right...) Mark
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Post by DYohn on Nov 29, 2020 12:30:36 GMT -5
If you need advice on patching the hole, let me know.
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Post by monkumonku on Nov 29, 2020 12:44:19 GMT -5
Personally, I do think it is a dumb question, because you're overthinking the whole thing. You're very knowledgeable about audio gear so just cover it with what you think is the best solution; I really doubt that there would be much, if any, audible difference between the choices you make. Take some advice from Paul:
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Post by ttocs on Nov 29, 2020 12:57:54 GMT -5
Mark that's a great skill to have acquired!
Watching a Master Plasterer is quite a wondrous skill to behold! To accomplish a no-sand finish is a combination of materials used and the skill of the person applying those materials. I've had the honor to witness such a finishing process in real time. It's usually reserved for the elder generation, and unfortunately, is a dying profession. It gets more difficult as time marches on to find the right person for the job, and it's a rare find when that person is less than 80 years old. We know a couple of capable "youngsters" in extremely high demand, they name their price and we pay it.
We've used this type of Professional where it shows the most, domed ceilings, recessed arched windows, and most often for compound radius stair-backs of curved stairs in grand foyers. These guys are proud of their work and are adamant about making sure that I tell the painters "Don't sand before painting! It'll ruin the finish!".
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Post by klinemj on Nov 29, 2020 14:23:04 GMT -5
Yes - and once again not interested in any solutions for filling in the hole. Any input on the materials for the covering the hole with sound absorbing panel? Mark The right way would be to run a Smurf tube down the wall and on each end put a decorative cap. Below top picture shows to boxes one for electrical outlet and the other [blue] Smurf tube. Smurf tube for television: Smurf Tube cosmetic covers. You'll need two one above behind the TV and the other below on the other end to your entertainment system: Home Depot or Amazon should sell both. Well, yes - that would have been nice. However - do you see that large white pipe that runs horizontally? That's the sewer line as it exits the house. The wall is framed around that line, and the ethernet lines and speaker lines come from above that sewer line and snake around to wall jacks near the floor below it. Can I run a smurf line though that sewer line and have it all work out swell? "I just love all the advice I'm getting on what I asked about!" Mark
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Post by klinemj on Nov 29, 2020 14:24:50 GMT -5
If you need advice on patching the hole, let me know. Do you think using shaving cream would work well? LOL! Mark
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Post by DYohn on Nov 29, 2020 14:31:20 GMT -5
Plus I want to know what a "Smurf" tube was called before there were Smurfs?
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Post by klinemj on Nov 29, 2020 16:12:15 GMT -5
By the picture I can't tell how much distance between the piping and drywall [cross brace can be notched]. I figured ya might have an option to feed a smurf tube down and run the wire through the smurf tube and patch the wall rather than constantly fishing wire past with a giant hole in the wall. Of course ya'd know better.... For the record, not that it matters, but...there's just barely enough room to fit a wire between the pipe and the inside surface of the drywall. Fishing one through was a non-starter (and...yes...I tried). The wall was built in 2005. The wiring in question was not added until much later...2015-ish? When I built the wall, I thought I had my wiring plan future-proofed. Well, things come up in the future we never expect. I originally had alternate routes for wires to that general area if I needed them, however...future came along and - guess waht - either alternate route for the new path I needed would have dictate use of a lot more wire and a lot harder fishing project. I opted for the easy path and a hole. I know very well what I'm doing when it comes to building. If I need advice on that, I'll ask for it. Meanwhile - the advice I needed was on materials for sound absorbing. I've made my call on that and about to order it, but...thanks for the "help". (And...ps...the wires and hole have nothing to do with the TV. See the original post) Mark
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Post by klinemj on Nov 29, 2020 16:34:10 GMT -5
And, thanks everyone for the advice you have shared. I know I have come across rather pissy, and frankly - I am in an irritable bad mood the last few days. I just expected that when I asked for some simple advice on sound absorbing materials - I'd get that instead of advice on how to fill a hole or avoid having a hole (that's already clearly there) in the first place.
I'm going to go with the original materials I found and spray-glue those to some 1/4" luan. Some thin self-adhesive foam strips will cushion the panels vs. the existing non-hole drywall (which is as smooth as a baby's butt thank's to my work back in 2005). The panels will hang on some picture-frame style mounting hooks so I can easily attach them and remove them as needed. I'll post pix once it's done, but the panels won't arrive for a couple weeks.
Mark
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Post by klinemj on Dec 5, 2020 14:21:48 GMT -5
The panels are done and the hole is covered. Now, I have easy access to my wiring path and some nice looking "sound panels" surrounding the edges of the new TV. Here's the hole: Here it is covered: I like how they frame the edges of the TV: Here's a close-up of the panels. I attached the panels to 1/4" luan with plastic rivets - no glue at all. Felt and foam pads are on the back side of the panel to keep the panel from directly touching the wall (and possibly vibrating). Mark
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Post by klinemj on Dec 5, 2020 14:23:06 GMT -5
Next up - move the AV stand back in place, and hook up the XMC-2 once it arrives Tuesday. Then, my transition to 4K in the theater is complete.
Mark
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Post by ttocs on Dec 5, 2020 14:40:26 GMT -5
So that's why I wasn't able to find F1 Qualifying! It was on ESPNews, which I don't get.
Shhhhhh! about the hole.
Are you going across the top/bottom also?
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Post by 405x5 on Dec 5, 2020 15:06:57 GMT -5
I left mine.....it SMOOTHS out the bass nice!
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Post by ttocs on Dec 5, 2020 15:33:08 GMT -5
I left mine.....it SMOOTHS out the bass nice! At which frequencies?
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Post by klinemj on Dec 5, 2020 15:56:04 GMT -5
So that's why I wasn't able to find F1 Qualifying! It was on ESPNews, which I don't get. Shhhhhh! about the hole. Are you going across the top/bottom also? Not planning the top and bottom (yet). And, I didn't even notice what channel F1 was on. I just went to Hulu Live and the tile for F1 automatically showed on the home page because it's set as a favorite. Looking forward to the race tomorrow. Mark
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Post by klinemj on Dec 5, 2020 15:56:35 GMT -5
I left mine.....it SMOOTHS out the bass nice! At which frequencies? As frequent as needed. Mark
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