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Post by synmag on Dec 2, 2020 13:52:06 GMT -5
I just posted a long post in the xmc-1 thread trying to decide to pick one up at the current $999 price.
One reviewer loved the fact that the xmc-1 was able to coherently recreate a scene in lord of the rings where he was able to understand a ghost's whisper where other processors were not able to. I'm wondering if this scene is similar where my current Rotel can't do it but perhaps the xmc-1 or other higher end Emotiva processors can.
If you have Amazon prime, can you play episode 5 of Treadstone, and in the bar scene in Budapest that starts at 7:45 can you hear the words being spoken by the people in the background seated at the tables? It's not in English but can you make out the words, or if you happen to speak Hungarian can you understand them? There is a section where there is no main dialog and I can hear the people speaking but I can't make out the words. I'm curious if this is the type of coherence the reviewer was talking about where one processor is able to reproduce it and the other can't.
I'm not sure how much longer the black Friday sale will last but I'm trying to decide if I should get the xmc-1 now. This would help a lot.
Thank you.
Edit: so it's actually the table in the foreground at 7:47 where the old man leans over to say something.
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Post by martindktm on Dec 2, 2020 17:39:09 GMT -5
It might be a speaker thing too... Frequency that fell in between internal crossover...?
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Post by JKCashin on Dec 2, 2020 18:44:52 GMT -5
There is no bar scene at 7:45 in episode 3 season 1... it's a massive fight scene between two women. Can you double check the time stamp?
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Post by synmag on Dec 2, 2020 21:32:15 GMT -5
It's episode 5. I didn't realzie there were more than one season. It's the one where he is in Budapest. I imagine that's in only one season.
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Post by 405x5 on Dec 2, 2020 21:40:55 GMT -5
I just posted a long post in the xmc-1 thread trying to decide to pick one up at the current $999 price. One reviewer loved the fact that the xmc-1 was able to coherently recreate a scene in lord of the rings where he was able to understand a ghost's whisper where other processors were not able to. I'm wondering if this scene is similar where my current Rotel can't do it but perhaps the xmc-1 or other higher end Emotiva processors can. If you have Amazon prime, can you play episode 5 of Treadstone, and in the bar scene in Budapest that starts at 7:45 can you hear the words being spoken by the people in the background seated at the tables? It's not in English but can you make out the words, or if you happen to speak Hungarian can you understand them? There is a section where there is no main dialog and I can hear the people speaking but I can't make out the words. I'm curious if this is the type of coherence the reviewer was talking about where one processor is able to reproduce it and the other can't. I'm not sure how much longer the black Friday sale will last but I'm trying to decide if I should get the xmc-1 now. This would help a lot. Thank you. Edit: so it's actually the table in the foreground at 7:47 where the old man leans over to say something. This is not surprising at all to me, because CLARITY was the first thing both my wife and I were taken with when the XMC1 took over from Sunfire’s Theater Grand 2, which is no slouch (I still have it) |
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Post by synmag on Dec 2, 2020 22:40:51 GMT -5
Did you have any HDMI handshaking issues at all?
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Post by synmag on Dec 2, 2020 22:42:30 GMT -5
It might be a speaker thing too... Frequency that fell in between internal crossover...? I suppose so, though I never noticed anything like this with my previous processors. |
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Post by tropicallutefisk on Dec 3, 2020 7:14:55 GMT -5
It might be a speaker thing too... Frequency that fell in between internal crossover...? Or an amplifier thing. LOL My first multi channel separate amp was a Rotel RMB 1075. Its really a great amp for the most part. However, I always felt the dialogue from my center channel could be muddy and difficult to understand at times. I mentioned this to a local dealer and was thinking about a different center channel speaker. He recommended trying a different amp and happened to have a single Emo XPA 1L in inventory he'd let go for a bit of a discount. I instantly noticed a huge difference. My center never sounded so clear and dynamic. No more do I sit and wonder what exactly someone said. Nor do I have my wife asking me. LOL Now, I could have purchased an easier to drive center and probably would have similar results, but I really love the sound of this CC3 Maggie center and it matches the rest of my system, so I'm glad I went the route I did. FYI - upgraded that 1L to a DR1 and have been even more impressed with the sound of that center speaker. As for the XMC processor, I'm very excited to hear all the great reviews about sound quality. My Marantz 8802a is probably not going to last too much longer, its been a bit of a lemon and next to my Sony tv its probably my most regrettable HT expenditure. I've heard some of the negative stories about the EMO processors, but when the time comes I'll happily give the XMC a try. My Marantz has been far from a solid performer, so I willing to give something else a try when the time comes, and I'm impressed with accolades the EMO processors get about the sound quality. |
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Post by synmag on Dec 3, 2020 11:38:59 GMT -5
EIDIT: I meant to say it didn't happen with my previous processor not amp.
Yeah, it could also be a speaker cable. I actually have that rotel amp currently paired with the rsp-1069. So those two should play nice with each other. My center speaker is b&w htm2 along with 805 mains. I picked up the htm2 used and the guy who sold it to me also gave me the soundquest cable he was using with it. I notice that the htm2 is louder than the two mains which are effectively the exact same speaker except the htm2 is horizontal. I have nothing fancy but good thick cables for the mains. The only difference is they are longer than the center.
Having said all that I have not noticed this with my previous processor this is why I'm suspecting the processor.
BTW I placed the order for the xmc-1 last night so looking forward to getting it.
The other thing I thought of also is that I'm trying out amazon prime so I'm wondering if it's a downmix issue as I think they offer atmos which from what I read can be downmixed into 5.1 which is what my receiver is using.
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Post by martindktm on Dec 3, 2020 19:47:49 GMT -5
Let us know if it does better than your actual setup.
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Post by synmag on Dec 4, 2020 17:20:22 GMT -5
Sure. So I have spent some time with the Rotel and I have to say that when I feed it my SACD analog signal I would be happy. Two of my favorite tracks I use to analyze equipment is Pink Floyd's Time from the bootleg DVD-A disc and Dire Straits Brothers in Arms. Actually, that entire SACD is great. With digital, I never set up the sub correctly and I suspect if I took the time to do it right it would have the same punch as analog. Unfortunately, Rotel forces Dolby 2 channel on stereo music which may have introduced the issue I had with the sound distorting at high volume in one specific track. This is what turned me off and made me long for the sound of my LMC-1. Since by all accounts the XMC-1 is much better than the LMC-1 I'm not concerned. I do have a bit of buyer's remorse because I'm not sure if getting that clear high end is worth the price of admission if I can fix the bass for movies by properly setting it up. I hadn't realized that my sub was barely working which says a lot of the bass for the b&w 805 given its size. I actually love the bass without the sub on some blues tracks. I must say the Rotel is no slouch and If I didn't have the experience of the LMC-1 I would be totally happy with it, as so many people are. Rotel is known as a brand similar to Emotiva that punches above its weight for quality for the price.
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Post by synmag on Dec 14, 2020 2:03:40 GMT -5
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