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Post by meistereder on Jan 7, 2021 8:54:34 GMT -5
XMC Surround Processors - Frequency RANGE the of System EQ when set to any frequeny?
I know that the 'System EQ Bass/Treble control' (likewise in the manual setting) can be set to a specific frequency, as wished for by the user. Now, I learned recently in an Emotiva Demonstration Video (on Youtube) that not only the (exactly) set frequency is altered, but rather a frequency range (likewise it can be done in a parametic EQ). For example, a range around a set frequency of 150Hz (or any other) is alterered, rather than only 150Hz. My ears tell me that this must be true, because these controls are very effective (which I like). What the video did not tell is how broad this range is. Does anybody of you know this? (Btw, I have an XMC-2, but I believe this should be the same for all XMCs. It certainly was the same with the XMC-1.) |
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 7, 2021 12:04:00 GMT -5
XMC Surround Processors - Frequency RANGE the of System EQ when set to any frequeny?
I know that the 'System EQ Bass/Treble control' (likewise in the manual setting) can be set to a specific frequency, as wished for by the user. Now, I learned recently in an Emotiva Demonstration Video (on Youtube) that not only the (exactly) set frequency is altered, but rather a frequency range (likewise it can be done in a parametic EQ). For example, a range around a set frequency of 150Hz (or any other) is alterered, rather than only 150Hz. My ears tell me that this must be true, because these controls are very effective (which I like). What the video did not tell is how broad this range is. Does anybody of you know this? (Btw, I have an XMC-2, but I believe this should be the same for all XMCs. It certainly was the same with the XMC-1.) I can’t answer your question, but I DO use “system EQ” for persistent bass and treble configuration. In retrospect, would have been nice to have dumped a few of those tuner presets in favor of “on the fly” bass and treble control. Too many crap recordings that benefit by that old standby. Bill |
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Post by bolle on Jan 8, 2021 4:44:09 GMT -5
I don´t really understand your question. The EQ in the XMC and RMC is not like a parametric EQ, it IS a parametric EQ. So you set a center frequency, the dB attenuation (plus or minus) and the Q-factor, which affects how narrow or wide that specific filter does work. This is nothing Emotiva or XMC specific, just a normal PEQ.
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Post by geebo on Jan 8, 2021 7:56:07 GMT -5
I don´t really understand your question. The EQ in the XMC and RMC is not like a parametric EQ, it IS a parametric EQ. So you set a center frequency, the dB attenuation (plus or minus) and the Q-factor, which affects how narrow or wide that specific filter does work. This is nothing Emotiva or XMC specific, just a normal PEQ. I think they're talking about the System EQ which is not part of the PEQ settings. It's a simple set of bass and treble controls with an adjustable turnover frequency and +/- adjustment of the amount of boost or cut. |
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Post by bolle on Jan 10, 2021 5:04:34 GMT -5
I don´t really understand your question. The EQ in the XMC and RMC is not like a parametric EQ, it IS a parametric EQ. So you set a center frequency, the dB attenuation (plus or minus) and the Q-factor, which affects how narrow or wide that specific filter does work. This is nothing Emotiva or XMC specific, just a normal PEQ. I think they're talking about the System EQ which is not part of the PEQ settings. It's a simple set of bass and treble controls with an adjustable turnover frequency and +/- adjustment of the amount of boost or cut. Ah well, I never use that. I also didn´t find the term "System EQ" in the manual. Thank you!  |
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Post by cwt on Jan 10, 2021 6:41:41 GMT -5
XMC Surround Processors - Frequency RANGE the of System EQ when set to any frequeny? I know that the 'System EQ Bass/Treble control' (likewise in the manual setting) can be set to a specific frequency, as wished for by the user. Now, I learned recently in an Emotiva Demonstration Video (on Youtube) that not only the (exactly) set frequency is altered, but rather a frequency range (likewise it can be done in a parametic EQ). For example, a range around a set frequency of 150Hz (or any other) is alterered, rather than only 150Hz. My ears tell me that this must be true, because these controls are very effective (which I like). I read that the Fletcher Munsohn curves need a firmware tweak but will be nice when that happens [ loudness compensation via FM being separate to standard eq with the typical bell curve shape you describe] . In the old days you got shelving frequency controls that kept lower frequencies all boosted below the turnover point and fancy stuff like midrange analogue level boost  . Found this interesting as it is handy for low level listening as its pretty rare these days soundproofgeek.com/fletcher-munson-curves-equal-loudness-explained/ |
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 10, 2021 10:25:13 GMT -5
The Loudness compensation feature of the XMC1 goes unused in my system, in lieu of the remote control that came with my Velodyne HGS 18 subwoofer.
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Post by daveczski65 on Jan 10, 2021 11:07:15 GMT -5
I want to know why the tone controls always go back to zero,after going to standby! Such a pain in the ass,,have to keep reseting tone,,bass and treble on the XMC 2
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 10, 2021 12:31:39 GMT -5
I want to know why the tone controls always go back to zero,after going to standby! Such a pain in the ass,,have to keep reseting tone,,bass and treble on the XMC 2 I haven’t seen the XMC2 menu for bass treble and equalization and wondering if it’s the same (XMC1). For persistent bass/treble level setting I rely on “System EQ” and attenuate from there. Bass and treble settings in the main zone do the same thing you’re experiencing, back to flat. Bill |
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Post by geebo on Jan 10, 2021 12:57:43 GMT -5
I want to know why the tone controls always go back to zero,after going to standby! Such a pain in the ass,,have to keep reseting tone,,bass and treble on the XMC 2 System EQ which you can get to under Setup > Speakers > Preset > Equalization > User > System EQ >Is persistent and will stay as set between power cycles. But it's only active under User EQ. Tone control under the Main menu works with all the presets but is not persistent. |
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Post by daveczski65 on Jan 10, 2021 12:58:43 GMT -5
I want to know why the tone controls always go back to zero,after going to standby! Such a pain in the ass,,have to keep reseting tone,,bass and treble on the XMC 2 I haven’t seen the XMC2 menu for bass treble and equalization and wondering if it’s the same (XMC1). For persistent bass/treble level setting I rely on “System EQ” and attenuate from there. Bass and treble settings in the main zone do the same thing you’re experiencing, back to flat. Bill Thanks Bill, I belive it may be different,,I haven't even messed with the system EQ settings yet,,to many settings. But definitely like the sound as it is just with bass and treble settings. |
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Post by daveczski65 on Jan 10, 2021 13:00:27 GMT -5
I want to know why the tone controls always go back to zero,after going to standby! Such a pain in the ass,,have to keep reseting tone,,bass and treble on the XMC 2 System EQ which you can get to under Setup > Speakers > Preset > Equalization > User > System EQ >Is persistent and will stay as set between power cycles. But it's only active under User EQ. Tone control under the Main menu works with all the presets but is not persistent. Thanks geebo,, guess I have to sit and set them all,,so many settings!  don't even know what they mean or stand for,, Umc 1 was so much easier to set equalization. |
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 10, 2021 17:16:23 GMT -5
System EQ which you can get to under Setup > Speakers > Preset > Equalization > User > System EQ >Is persistent and will stay as set between power cycles. But it's only active under User EQ. Tone control under the Main menu works with all the presets but is not persistent. Thanks geebo,, guess I have to sit and set them all,,so many settings! don't even know what they mean or stand for,, Umc 1 was so much easier to set equalization. We can see from Geebo that the end result is the same with the two despite the difference in appearance. No worries once you get the hang of venturing in and out of the menu you’ll be able to tweak those settings in seconds! Bill |
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. Found this interesting as it is handy for low level listening as its pretty rare these days 
don't even know what they mean or stand for,, Umc 1 was so much easier to set equalization. 