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Post by Ex_Vintage on Feb 18, 2021 23:09:40 GMT -5
I have not yet created custom EQ using my XMC-1 presets. I find that Reference Stereo and Direct modes lack soundstage with good imaging. Dirac produces a good soundstage, but the imaging is lacking. What "Mode" are you using with your processor? I am not opposed to creating a custom curve in the presets, but it seems to be a laborious process. (lots of tinkering) My focus is mainly on Music listening....
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Post by AudioHTIT on Feb 18, 2021 23:13:30 GMT -5
I have not yet created custom EQ using my XMC-1 presets. I find that Reference Stereo and Direct modes lack soundstage with good imaging. Dirac produces a good soundstage, but the imaging is lacking. What "Mode" are you using with your processor? I am not opposed to creating a custom cure in the presets, but it seems to be a laborious process. (lots of tinkering) I’m sure some people use Dirac for HT/Surround/Atmos, and Reference or Direct for stereo music.
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Post by daveczski65 on Feb 19, 2021 6:55:42 GMT -5
I haven't tried dirac with my xmc2 yet,I am just using preset 1 and I adjust the bass,treble in tone sect, using stereo mode for 2 ch. Reference mode just doesn't sound right,lacking bass.
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Post by DYohn on Feb 19, 2021 16:04:46 GMT -5
Since this is in a general area, my answer is ARC Genesis.
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Post by bootman on Feb 19, 2021 17:29:39 GMT -5
Don't forget good old REW.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Feb 19, 2021 20:27:18 GMT -5
Don't forget good old REW. I’m thinking that would be the last option, preset with custom curves.
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Post by daveczski65 on Feb 19, 2021 20:31:43 GMT -5
Since this is in a general area, my answer is ARC Genesis. What is ARC genesis?
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Post by DYohn on Feb 19, 2021 22:54:30 GMT -5
Since this is in a general area, my answer is ARC Genesis. What is ARC genesis? It’s the room correction software that runs on Anthem processors.
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Post by Ex_Vintage on Feb 19, 2021 23:25:10 GMT -5
Is anyone creating their own filters in the 11 preset segments? Just trying to figure out why Dirac has a negative effect on imaging. As mentioned in another post, I find the center vocal image to be weak and offset to the right with Dirac. When using Direct, the imaging is good but the Soundstage is flat.
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Post by ttocs on Feb 19, 2021 23:33:27 GMT -5
Since this is in a general area, my answer is ARC Genesis. What is ARC genesis? ARC is also built into some speakers and subwoofers, like my Fronts and all of my subs. In my case it's only for bass below 300Hz.
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Post by JKCashin on Feb 20, 2021 0:16:21 GMT -5
Don't forget good old REW. I’m thinking that would be the last option, preset with custom curves. Oh, I misinterpreted that then... I thoght the last one was for if you made your own EQ settings, per channel, in the menu
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Post by foggy1956 on Feb 20, 2021 8:03:55 GMT -5
Is anyone creating their own filters in the 11 preset segments? Just trying to figure out why Dirac has a negative effect on imaging. As mentioned in another post, I find the center vocal image to be weak and offset to the right with Dirac. When using Direct, the imaging is good but the Soundstage is flat. Strange, in my room Dirac on the xmc-2 provides the best sound I have so far experienced.
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Post by siggie on Feb 20, 2021 9:15:11 GMT -5
I used REW to get my two subs working together properly and Dirac on top of that.
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Post by bolle on Feb 21, 2021 7:08:46 GMT -5
I use the input PEQs of my external DSPs for room correction and the output PEQs of my external DSPs for correction and time alignment of each chassis group of each of my speakers as well as the DBA. I tried out DIRAC on top but like the sound better without.
When I still had passive speakers I used the PEQ in the XMC-1 / UMC-200 for room correction.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Feb 22, 2021 12:36:34 GMT -5
I’m thinking that would be the last option, preset with custom curves. Oh, I misinterpreted that then... I thoght the last one was for if you made your own EQ settings, per channel, in the menu So if you took measurements with REW, then imported them into the PEQ User Slot, why wouldn’t that qualify as “Preset with Custom Curves”? It would seem to cover both you’re own PEQ settings, and those arrived at by using a more sophisticated tool.
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Post by bobcel on Feb 22, 2021 14:04:11 GMT -5
Schitt Loki. Easy setup.... call it a day, relax and enjoy
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Post by Ex_Vintage on Feb 22, 2021 15:12:27 GMT -5
Oh, I misinterpreted that then... I thoght the last one was for if you made your own EQ settings, per channel, in the menu So if you took measurements with REW, then imported them into the PEQ User Slot, why wouldn’t that qualify as “Preset with Custom Curves”? It would seem to cover both you’re own PEQ settings, and those arrived at by using a more sophisticated tool. The last one is the net result of either using REW or some other method of creating your own custom EQ values per frequency range. I am curious as to what the difference would be between using REW to create the filters and the EQ values created by Dirac. Is Dirac doing anything more than "flattening the response" overall?
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Post by AudioHTIT on Feb 22, 2021 19:23:52 GMT -5
So if you took measurements with REW, then imported them into the PEQ User Slot, why wouldn’t that qualify as “Preset with Custom Curves”? It would seem to cover both you’re own PEQ settings, and those arrived at by using a more sophisticated tool. The last one is the net result of either using REW or some other method of creating your own custom EQ values per frequency range. I am curious as to what the difference would be between using REW to create the filters and the EQ values created by Dirac. Is Dirac doing anything more than "flattening the response" overall? This might be better taken up in the Dirac thread, but Dirac is said to also make corrections in the time domain, here’s a statement from them: “ What makes Dirac Live superior to other Room Correction technologies? By using mixed-phase correction we can enable impulse response correction. A loudspeaker’s impulse response affects staging, clarity, detail and all spatial aspects of the sound. Dirac Live® is unique in that it improves the impulse response throughout the listening area, not just in a particular zone. The Dirac Live® algorithm suggests a target response appropriate for your listening environment and speakers, which you can of course adjust to your taste using our simple graphical interface.” Here’s a comparison of REW and Dirac written by MiniDSP: www.minidsp.com/applications/digital-room-correction/dirac-live-vs-rew
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Post by AudioHTIT on Feb 22, 2021 19:36:06 GMT -5
Schitt Loki. Easy setup.... call it a day, relax and enjoy Isn’t Loki more of an alternative and more sophisticated replacement for “tone controls”, as opposed to Room EQ?
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Post by bobcel on Feb 22, 2021 21:40:20 GMT -5
AudioHTIT said Isn’t Loki more of an alternative and more sophisticated replacement for “tone controls”, as opposed to Room EQ?
Yup You are correct. Makes a difference in my system and I like it. Haven't the time to try REW (Looks confusing to my coconut) and Dirac didn't do it for me. One day Ill get serious and do it.
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