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Post by dougtebo1 on Feb 23, 2021 9:31:43 GMT -5
So the website is listing the mc-700 as discontinued. What is the next offering going to be in the realm of economical surround processors? My umc-1 took a dump and i cant afford an xmc-2. Any idea when and if its coming out? Should i shop for a different manufacturer?
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Post by KeithL on Feb 23, 2021 9:42:21 GMT -5
We do have a replacement for the MC-700 in the works... but no specifics yet.
In the mean time you might consider a Certified Refurbished XMC-1. (They are still available - although you need to get on the notification list to be notified when the next batch is available.)
So the website is listing the mc-700 as discontinued. What is the next offering going to be in the realm of economical surround processors? My umc-1 took a dump and i cant afford an xmc-2. Any idea when and if its coming out? Should i shop for a different manufacturer? |
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Post by megash0n on Feb 23, 2021 11:18:04 GMT -5
So the website is listing the mc-700 as discontinued. What is the next offering going to be in the realm of economical surround processors? My umc-1 took a dump and i cant afford an xmc-2. Any idea when and if its coming out? Should i shop for a different manufacturer? I wouldn't want to speculate on what they are or are not doing. Or, at what stage they can effectively manage separate projects without compromise. As a single data point to consider, if a company is 3 years into a new product line that is still under heavy development, has yet to fulfill day one promises, and will likely take another couple of years to finish, would you want to consider buying a currently undisclosed budget processor from the same company? Are the resources in place to effectively manage each project while delivering excellence to the consumer? Will one product line's focus take from the other? How was the development and success of the MC-700 impacted by the G3Ps efforts? Just something to think about and consider. |
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Post by macagain on Apr 9, 2021 10:33:08 GMT -5
Now that BasX Gen 2 amps have been announced, hopefully a prepro is not far behind. Was saving my pennies for an XMC-2, the then 40% card was suddenly yanked making it out of reach.
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Post by vcautokid on Apr 9, 2021 12:57:54 GMT -5
Well pre pros can't go forever unless you keep the HDMI current especially. Never really could understand that debacle. For years HDMI really hasn't benefitted anybody other than a single connection slip in and slip out connection. Whoop-de-doo. So you constantly chase the latest version all the time.
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Post by cwt on Apr 11, 2021 6:14:07 GMT -5
Well pre pros can't go forever unless you keep the HDMI current especially. Never really could understand that debacle. For years HDMI really hasn't benefitted anybody other than a single connection slip in and slip out connection. Whoop-de-doo. So you constantly chase the latest version all the time. Mmm you have to factor in upgradeability with timing these days  .I could be wrong but I seem to recall the MC700 having upgradeable hdmi pcbs [ like the xmc1 had] but its a moot point now as its a good bet the new gen model will have more hdmi2.0b inputs with the hdmi 4k120 debacle influencing things  It will be interesting to see how Emo handles hdmi2.1 or just adds extra programming for things like E-ARC and passthrough 2.1 features for next gen gaming consoles ? |
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Post by vcautokid on Apr 11, 2021 7:47:09 GMT -5
It is about costs and compatibility from the start for the HDMI upgrade. Unless the architecture from the start was designed for upgrading, most likely it will be a new generation like most companies do in the price category.
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Post by housetech on Apr 11, 2021 13:41:26 GMT -5
I'll preference with- thanks to gov't involvement with HDCP, HDMI is a mess. They care more about the $ donors than the consumer, just as they care more about $ from donors than free & fair elections without ballot fraud. HDMI is a moving target and will evolve with technology. Most of us want to spend our disposable dollars on quality products that work and be able to use that equipment for as many years as possible, while others always want the latest, greatest- that ok, 'choice & freedom to choose'. (I was one of those types once). Analogue equipment could and did last for decades of use, digital will not. I still use a 1999 DVD player with a good transport for CDs, sounds really good still. After all that blah, blah rant, stick with what you like and your plans for future purchases. I waited on a 4k TV that offered what I needed at a price point. I have no plans to purchase an 8K TV because there is so little content available for what's we have now, technology wise. I also waited for the XMC-1 to get the 4K board. I have no plans for 11 or 16 channels of audio in this house. Also consider your internet speed, you can only stream so much data. The well built XMC-1 offers GREAT music quality and 7 channel audio for video content. I'm happy with it. So my conclusion is, unless you plan to jump into the HDMI rabbit hole, buy what's needed today that works, don't get too sidetracked on minor improvements. Maybe the next HDMI 3.0  will interest you for a need. |
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Post by cwt on Apr 13, 2021 5:40:11 GMT -5
It is about costs and compatibility from the start for the HDMI upgrade. Unless the architecture from the start was designed for upgrading, most likely it will be a new generation like most companies do in the price category. Yes the safe route will be just to handle hdmi 2.0b inputs and discard the extra hdmi 1.4 inputs in the mx700 ; the trouble D&H Holdings and yamaha are having sourcing good 2.1 chips shows the route for a smaller company..Ide be more interested in if this will be 7.1 or 7.1.4 now everyone has gone to 16 channel models . That would kill any Emersa speculation And that 4ch basx power amp would have another outlet but probably overthinking things.. My pre pro has a hdmi2.1 ready pcb but Ime happy with 2.0 like most  |
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Post by vcautokid on Apr 13, 2021 5:47:15 GMT -5
Actually not everyone cares about 16 channels but would be nice for the choice. Many would still due to room constraints or other still do fine with 5.1 and so on. I do for instance. Keeping up with the HDMI arms race is the only hurdle I see that will affect me at some point.
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Post by cwt on May 25, 2021 23:23:24 GMT -5
Actually not everyone cares about 16 channels but would be nice for the choice. Many would still due to room constraints or other still do fine with 5.1 and so on. I do for instance. Keeping up with the HDMI arms race is the only hurdle I see that will affect me at some point. The plot thickens with Tonewinners out of the blue entry [and its close link with Emo previously] www.avsforum.com/threads/tonewinner-at-300-16-channel-preamp-processor.3202735/ |
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.I could be wrong but I seem to recall the MC700 having upgradeable hdmi pcbs [ like the xmc1 had] but its a moot point now as its a good bet the new gen model will have more hdmi2.0b inputs with the hdmi 4k120 debacle influencing things 
It will be interesting to see how Emo handles hdmi2.1 or just adds extra programming for things like E-ARC and passthrough 2.1 features for next gen gaming consoles ?
will interest you for a need.
