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Post by thezone on Nov 2, 2021 4:34:47 GMT -5
In answering the un-asked question is it worth while upgrading the XMC-1 to XMC-2 (or the other 2) I would say hell yeah. I did not regret this at all. Never once did I wish that I had my 'ol XMC-1 back. Sure it has its' quirks, but the XMC-2 is better in every way. Way better sounding, more versatile, 4k passthrough, better dacs, and the new up-mixers are insane! Oh and for me the ability to run sperate subs for bass management and LFE. I'm not sure there is anything else available that can do this (Thinking man's processor).
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Post by cwt on Nov 2, 2021 7:59:09 GMT -5
My XMC-1 is fully factory upgraded. Cheers Gary Thats reason enough for emo to get a hdmi 2.1 board out there as 2.0b should handle 4k from your sammy interconnect box .. The xmc2 board is identical to the xmc1 board so should have the same issues .. |
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Post by Gary Cook on Nov 2, 2021 19:31:46 GMT -5
The xmc2 board is identical to the xmc1 board so should have the same issues .. I guess I am about to find out whether the XMC-1 and XMC-2 HDMI boards are in fact identical. Well, in about 3 to 4 weeks as it will take that long in shipping from Sydney to Franklin and back to Sydney. FWIW none of the sources are 2.1 and when connected directly to the One Connect Box they handshake with the Samsung TV, just when I place the XMC-1 in between they don't. Cheers Gary |
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Post by cwt on Nov 2, 2021 22:05:45 GMT -5
The xmc2 board is identical to the xmc1 board so should have the same issues .. I guess I am about to find out whether the XMC-1 and XMC-2 HDMI boards are in fact identical. Well, in about 3 to 4 weeks as it will take that long in shipping from Sydney to Franklin and back to Sydney. FWIW none of the sources are 2.1 and when connected directly to the One Connect Box they handshake with the Samsung TV, just when I place the XMC-1 in between they don't. Cheers Gary At the least the board was designed for the 2 series and not just shoehorned as it was into the xmc1 with its different hdmi architecture ; good luck  |
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Post by hsamwel on Nov 3, 2021 11:45:28 GMT -5
What kind of poll is this???
How can anyone but Emotiva answer this?
You'll have to own all of them and use them with the same gear to be able
to say which is the most stable..
All of them uses the same DSP, CPU, DACs and so forth.. Also the same firmware.
Unless Emotiva has made some hardware errors I can't see there being any difference.
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Post by yetis on Jan 31, 2022 9:52:58 GMT -5
[ However, unfortunately, many things, including processors, may act very differently, depending on how you operate them, and what they're connected to.
(So, in almost every case, YMMV.) It would seem difficult to understand how the RMC1 and RMC1 L, could be different. Though I do think this statement says it all. That some of the connections I read are really different. Maybe part of the reason the RMC1 appears more stable is that if your spendjng $5k on a processor, you likely have a fairly up-to-date projector/Display and likely a similar philosophy to all your inputs. I would also speculate connections are all hardwired vs wifi, etc |
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Post by 405x5 on Jan 31, 2022 9:59:19 GMT -5
What kind of poll is this??? How can anyone but Emotiva answer this? You'll have to own all of them and use them with the same gear to be able to say which is the most stable.. All of them uses the same DSP, CPU, DACs and so forth.. Also the same firmware. Unless Emotiva has made some hardware errors I can't see there being any difference. I’m with you! ( It’s not a poll…it’s a JOKE) |
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Post by markc on Feb 1, 2022 5:02:46 GMT -5
I've been away from this forum for a long time, but have experienced the less-than-rock-solid firmware of the XMC-1. I'm now considering an upgrade to one of the new ATMOS capable processors and am curious to get opinions on which of these appears to be the most stable currently. I am pretty certain that there is only one stable X series Emotiva processor, although it is not current, and that is the HDMI 1.4 XMC-1, which I think is still seen as flawless in it's working. I therefore suspect you have the "upgraded" HDMI 2.0 version and I still think this HDMI board continues to be a major source of the G3P woes as it was carried over. Any of the other processors (XMC-1 with the HDMI 2.0 board, XMC-2, RMC-1L, RMC-1L (with or without expansion modules)) remain with problems. The XMC-1 with the the HDMI 2.0 board is more stable than the G3P, but is still not fully stable due to HDMI quirks cropping up and is what ultimately caused me to make a mistake and jump from the frying pan into the fire that is my XMC-2. As the three G3P share exactly the same architecture, the answer to your question posed in the title of your post is based on quantum mechanics: a) All current Emotiva processors are equally stable (When Schrödinger experiences this, it is a joy indeed!) b) All current Emotiva processors are equally unstable (When Schrödinger experiences these quirks, all joyous occasions of a) are wiped from your memory and much family cursing occurs) |
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Post by cawgijoe on Feb 1, 2022 8:38:59 GMT -5
I've been away from this forum for a long time, but have experienced the less-than-rock-solid firmware of the XMC-1. I'm now considering an upgrade to one of the new ATMOS capable processors and am curious to get opinions on which of these appears to be the most stable currently. I am pretty certain that there is only one stable X series Emotiva processor, although it is not current, and that is the HDMI 1.4 XMC-1, which I think is still seen as flawless in it's working. I therefore suspect you have the "upgraded" HDMI 2.0 version and I still think this HDMI board continues to be a major source of the G3P woes as it was carried over. Any of the other processors (XMC-1 with the HDMI 2.0 board, XMC-2, RMC-1L, RMC-1L (with or without expansion modules)) remain with problems. The XMC-1 with the the HDMI 2.0 board is more stable than the G3P, but is still not fully stable due to HDMI quirks cropping up and is what ultimately caused me to make a mistake and jump from the frying pan into the fire that is my XMC-2. As the three G3P share exactly the same architecture, the answer to your question posed in the title of your post is based on quantum mechanics: a) All current Emotiva processors are equally stable (When Schrödinger experiences this, it is a joy indeed!) b) All current Emotiva processors are equally unstable (When Schrödinger experiences these quirks, all joyous occasions of a) are wiped from your memory and much family cursing occurs) Well, all I can say is based on my XMC-2 and the current firmware and my 5.1 system, my current setup has been very stable and easily as stable as my previous processor, the XMC-1 with updated 4K board. I am not denigrating anyone else's experience with these processors and their associated equipment as well as complications involved, i.e, multiple subs, ARC/CEC, long HDMI cable runs, etc. All of this should be looked into and hopefully resolved by Emotiva....not letting them off the hook. If current mainstream processors and receivers are able to handle all this, the G3P units should be able to also. However, I wanted to throw my real-life experience into the mix so that someone reading through this thread realizes that not all customers are having stability problems. Just my .02 |
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Post by 405x5 on Feb 2, 2022 9:56:52 GMT -5
“I am pretty certain that there is only one stable X series Emotiva processor, although it is not current, and that is the HDMI 1.4 XMC-1, which I think is still seen as flawless in it's working.” 7 1/2 years running 1.4 XMC1 with no stability issues. I don’t care about “ultra” I don’t care about “ATMOs” I love 3D! I love “powerful” MANUAL room correction (yes I do trust my ears) Be careful what you wish for! |
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