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Post by dlawmont on Feb 1, 2022 21:07:08 GMT -5
The HDMI switching time for the MC1 is not an issue for me. My sources are the gating factor when I change HDMI inputs .... such as the Vizio, Blu-ray, wireless PC .... etc.
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Post by titan2 on Feb 2, 2022 20:26:10 GMT -5
Has anyone that received one of these units tried to verify if it will pass a 3D video signal? I checked on it's brother the Tonewinner AT-300 and others have verified that it does pass a 3D video signal. Yes it does. |
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Post by sealman on Feb 3, 2022 13:44:53 GMT -5
Hi all, new here to the lounge.. I've been eyeing the MC-1 to replace my 2008? Yamaha RX-V1800 receiver. I use the receiver only as a pre/pro, with my own external amps. It's mostly used for two channel (with sub) stereo music listening, but also multi-channel music (via Kodi music server) and movies. I know the MC-1 will have 4k capability that the Yamaha doesn't have and it appears to be more flexible with EQ settings, and of course Atmos capable, which I'm not sure I'll implement. My main interest is if you think it will be a significant upgrade in sound quality, or do I need to spend a lot more to get that? Thanks! While I can't comment on the MC-1 I can comment on the difference between a Denon X4000 used as a preamp and a XMC-1 and a XMC-2. When I replaced the X4000 with the XMC-1 I immediately set it up using Dirac so that comparison is mostly the difference between Dirac and Audyssey. In my room with my speakers the difference was huge. Better surround clarity along with the dialogue clarity improvement was not subtle at all. I then traded in the XMC-1 for a 2 which was still waiting for a Dirac issue to be fixed so it was just calibrated for 75db without any room optimization involved. Well all that Dirac goodness was gone but it did not sound bad , just a step down in overall clarity in general. Well 6 months in and the XMC-2 died on me so it was sent in for a replacement. I then dusted off the X4000 and calibrated it to 75db (no audyssey) just like the XMC-2 and wow did it sound dull and lifeless in comparison. I was quite frankly very surprised at the difference in sound between the two. Will you notice a difference between the Yamaha and the MC-1? I have no idea but the difference for my setup was definitely noticeable. |
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Post by cawgijoe on Feb 3, 2022 13:54:32 GMT -5
Hi all, new here to the lounge.. I've been eyeing the MC-1 to replace my 2008? Yamaha RX-V1800 receiver. I use the receiver only as a pre/pro, with my own external amps. It's mostly used for two channel (with sub) stereo music listening, but also multi-channel music (via Kodi music server) and movies. I know the MC-1 will have 4k capability that the Yamaha doesn't have and it appears to be more flexible with EQ settings, and of course Atmos capable, which I'm not sure I'll implement. My main interest is if you think it will be a significant upgrade in sound quality, or do I need to spend a lot more to get that? Thanks! While I can't comment on the MC-1 I can comment on the difference between a Denon X4000 used as a preamp and a XMC-1 and a XMC-2. When I replaced the X4000 with the XMC-1 I immediately set it up using Dirac so that comparison is mostly the difference between Dirac and Audyssey. In my room with my speakers the difference was huge. Better surround clarity along with the dialogue clarity improvement was not subtle at all. I then traded in the XMC-1 for a 2 which was still waiting for a Dirac issue to be fixed so it was just calibrated for 75db without any room optimization involved. Well all that Dirac goodness was gone but it did not sound bad , just a step down in overall clarity in general. Well 6 months in and the XMC-2 died on me so it was sent in for a replacement. I then dusted off the X4000 and calibrated it to 75db (no audyssey) just like the XMC-2 and wow did it sound dull and lifeless in comparison. I was quite frankly very surprised at the difference in sound between the two. Will you notice a difference between the Yamaha and the MC-1? I have no idea but the difference for my setup was definitely noticeable. Did you get your XMC-2 replacement? |
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Post by predator290 on Feb 4, 2022 11:51:11 GMT -5
Just installed my mc1 last night. EmoQ seemed to do a good job on everything except subwoofer. I had to turn it way down as my sub was bottoming out with the auto settings.
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Post by sealman on Feb 4, 2022 15:22:57 GMT -5
While I can't comment on the MC-1 I can comment on the difference between a Denon X4000 used as a preamp and a XMC-1 and a XMC-2. When I replaced the X4000 with the XMC-1 I immediately set it up using Dirac so that comparison is mostly the difference between Dirac and Audyssey. In my room with my speakers the difference was huge. Better surround clarity along with the dialogue clarity improvement was not subtle at all. I then traded in the XMC-1 for a 2 which was still waiting for a Dirac issue to be fixed so it was just calibrated for 75db without any room optimization involved. Well all that Dirac goodness was gone but it did not sound bad , just a step down in overall clarity in general. Well 6 months in and the XMC-2 died on me so it was sent in for a replacement. I then dusted off the X4000 and calibrated it to 75db (no audyssey) just like the XMC-2 and wow did it sound dull and lifeless in comparison. I was quite frankly very surprised at the difference in sound between the two. Will you notice a difference between the Yamaha and the MC-1? I have no idea but the difference for my setup was definitely noticeable. Did you get your XMC-2 replacement? Yes the testing and replacement had approximately a 17 day turnaround. |
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Feb 4, 2022 20:18:02 GMT -5
Post by lhracing on Feb 4, 2022 20:18:02 GMT -5
Does the MC-1 do video pass through when off?
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Post by titan2 on Feb 7, 2022 21:03:06 GMT -5
Does the MC-1 do video pass through when off? I just checked. Mine does not in out of the box condition. (settings) I have not touched any internal settings, so I do not know if it can be made to do so. |
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Feb 7, 2022 21:33:10 GMT -5
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Post by MusicHead on Feb 7, 2022 21:33:10 GMT -5
Does the MC-1 do video pass through when off? I just checked. Mine does not in out of the box condition. (settings) I have not touched any internal settings, so I do not know if it can be made to do so. See page 29 of the manual: HDMI Options - This menu offers several options related to HDMI operation. Options include which HDMI Outputs are enabled, whether the MC1 will continue to pass video to the TV when in Standby, some detailed choices about how the MC1 responds to HDMI-CEC commands from other devices, and allows you to configure whether specific HDMI inputs support Enhanced HDMI or not. (Most users will not need to use these options unless instructed to by Emotiva Technical |
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Post by jbeemon on Feb 7, 2022 21:46:04 GMT -5
Does the MC-1 do video pass through when off? I just went searching for that option and found what I think you are looking for. Under the main menu, go to Setup/Option. Under Option go to HDMI Option. From the manual: HDMI Options - This menu offers several options related to HDMI operation. Options include which HDMI Outputs are enabled, whether the MC1 will continue to pass video to the TV when in Standby, some detailed choices about how the MC1 responds to HDMI-CEC commands from other devices, and allows you to configure whether specific HDMI inputs support Enhanced HDMI or not. (Most users will not need to use these options unless instructed to by Emotiva Technical Support.) Gonna give it a try and see what happens. Yep, that did it. |
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Feb 7, 2022 23:22:43 GMT -5
Post by lhracing on Feb 7, 2022 23:22:43 GMT -5
Thank you, I searched the .pdf manual for a few keywords and came up with nothing. But there it is, thanks again.
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Post by bolle on Feb 8, 2022 12:43:05 GMT -5
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Post by mercury79 on Feb 8, 2022 16:36:19 GMT -5
I have a lot of sacd's and dvd audio, since MC1 won´t decode dsd, what can i use to play those disc?, i tried an oppo bdp95 using PCM over HDMI but doesn't seems to work, any suggestion to stream via hdmi those titles? i prefer to buy a dedicated player instead the pc, thank you!!!
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Feb 8, 2022 18:04:39 GMT -5
Post by KeithL on Feb 8, 2022 18:04:39 GMT -5
The Oppo 95 should be able to output SACD audio as PCM via HDMI. I had one a long time ago and I recall that it was able to do so... and it worked.
I think there are TWO places where you need to set that... including one specifically for "SACD output"... but I forget the details since it's been a long time.
I would have also expected the Oppo to automatically output everything as PCM after sensing that the MC1 doesn't accept DSD.
Oppo players will generally "fall back" to outputting PCM if the receiving device won't play DSD - even if they've been SET to deliver DSD.
I have a lot of sacd's and dvd audio, since MC1 won´t decode dsd, what can i use to play those disc?, i tried an oppo bdp95 using PCM over HDMI but doesn't seems to work, any suggestion to stream via hdmi those titles? i prefer to buy a dedicated player instead the pc, thank you!!! |
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Post by donh50 on Feb 8, 2022 19:22:11 GMT -5
I believe this was already answered. It has to do with bass management, which apparently is the same (on-going) issue with all the current line-up. Probably inaudible, but significantly impacts the measured results. Amir noted, as did others, that the manual clearly states Pure and Direct still do some processing including BM. |
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Post by donh50 on Feb 8, 2022 19:26:02 GMT -5
I have a lot of sacd's and dvd audio, since MC1 won´t decode dsd, what can i use to play those disc?, i tried an oppo bdp95 using PCM over HDMI but doesn't seems to work, any suggestion to stream via hdmi those titles? i prefer to buy a dedicated player instead the pc, thank you!!! I don't remember the 95's menu settings, but as Keith said it should handle it OK (as should most any player). You may have to set video resolution higher, however, if you are using HDMI otherwise it will restrict the channels and rate to what your video resolution supports. At least that's the way it works on my UDP-203; I did not look at my old '83 manual and don't have the '95 manual downloaded. |
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Post by dlawmont on Feb 8, 2022 22:10:01 GMT -5
The Oppo 95 should be able to output SACD audio as PCM via HDMI. I had one a long time ago and I recall that it was able to do so... and it worked.
I think there are TWO places where you need to set that... including one specifically for "SACD output"... but I forget the details since it's been a long time.
I would have also expected the Oppo to automatically output everything as PCM after sensing that the MC1 doesn't accept DSD.
Oppo players will generally "fall back" to outputting PCM if the receiving device won't play DSD - even if they've been SET to deliver DSD.
I have a lot of sacd's and dvd audio, since MC1 won´t decode dsd, what can i use to play those disc?, i tried an oppo bdp95 using PCM over HDMI but doesn't seems to work, any suggestion to stream via hdmi those titles? i prefer to buy a dedicated player instead the pc, thank you!!! Quick question ......... why is every processor "TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE"  |
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Post by bolle on Feb 9, 2022 3:17:47 GMT -5
Quick question ......... why is every processor "TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE" Global chip shortage... Try to get a new car at the moment. |
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Post by doc1963 on Feb 9, 2022 7:41:49 GMT -5
Quick question ......... why is every processor "TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE" The answer that bolle gave you is spot on. This is the same reason why folks who want to purchase a Monolith HTP-1 or Anthem AVM 70 have been out of luck for months. If you need more confirmation, go over to Crutchfield and take a look at how many AVRs and AVPs are “out of stock” with no projected ETA. It’s a sad state of affairs, but it is what it is until supply catches up with demand… |
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Post by cawgijoe on Feb 9, 2022 8:01:09 GMT -5
Quick question ......... why is every processor "TEMPORARILY UNAVAILABLE" The answer that bolle gave you is spot on. This is the same reason why folks who want to purchase a Monolith HTP-1 or Anthem AVM 70 have been out of luck for months. If you need more confirmation, go over to Crutchfield and take a look at how many AVRs and AVPs are “out of stock” with no projected ETA. It’s a sad state of affairs, but it is what it is until supply catches up with demand… Not just supply catching up with demand....chip factories need to open up in the US and other countries to mitigate this type of problem in the future. I've never seen so many "out of stock" products at Crutchfield before. |
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