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Post by thxultra on Nov 23, 2022 23:25:52 GMT -5
Updated my XMC-2 to 3.1 and still having the metallic sound on occasion. Switching sound modes back and forth fixes it but still a issue. Also my Onkyo SACD player still is outputting DSD 5.1 which is detected by the XMC-2 but the XMC-2 locks the mode into DSD-stereo and will not playback 5.1. Processor does seem more responsive so that is a improvement. Also keep getting the updating fonts message if I do a cold boot. I leave the processor in stand by (hot boot) so this isn't as big an issue. Would you do me a favor? Would you check your settings in your Oppo and make sure it is set to multi-channel DSD output? DSD is one of those interesting formats where it bypasses everything in the processor and goes straight to the output DACs so if it is playing in 2 channel, I suspect that is what is being sent in. Lonnie Checked the settings on my Onkyo dv-sp506 and Set the HDMI output to SACD 6ch and also to Auto on both of these settings I get stereo sound with the source sayingDSD 5.1 but the mode is DSD Stereo. I can’t change the mode in either of these settings to get it to 5.1. If I set the onkyo to output PCM however it Shows a PCM 5.1 source and plays through the correct speakers. If I select the 2ch dsd section it then shows DSD 2.0 as the source and DSD stereo as the mode this is correct as well… I used this same player with my Marantz 7702 with the same disc and it works outputting DSD 5.1 and I get 5.1 sound. Thanks for your help! Sorry it took so long to reply had to swap in the Onkyo.
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Post by jonstatt on Nov 24, 2022 3:31:36 GMT -5
After updating my RMC-1L to v3.1 firmware I am also having a similar problem with no sound, as stated below. I have a Sharc-V2 8k eARC Audio Processor/FLR Switch that acts much like an HDFurry VRROOM but is not as sophisticated and doesn’t cost as much. This enables me to plug all sources into my LG G2 to take advantage of 120 refresh rate from Xbox Series X while still getting the proper audio decoded in my 5.2.4 setup. I run one HDMI cable from Input 1 of RMC1 to the Sharc-V2, one HDMI cable from the eARC/ARC from the Sharc-V2 to the eARC input from the LG G2 (HDMI 2), and then have my Xbox Series X and Blu-ray Player connected to the TV Inputs (HDMI 1 & 3). With firmware v2.5, this setup worked great and even improved the stability of the RMC1. Before I had this device, I would constantly encounter audio dropouts with the RMC, when pausing the TV during a show or switching apps on my TV or Xbox, the audio would randomly drop out. I could sometimes fix the issue by selecting a different input on the RMC and then going back to the original but most of the time the only fix would be a hard restart by holding the power switch down for 7 seconds until the processor completely shut off. I would wait a good minute and then turn it back on and let it run through the whole startup cycle again. Doing so would restore the sound. After the Sharc-V2 was implemented, I very rarely ever lost audio. It would still happen every couple months but nothing like before when I would lose audio several times a week and have to do the restart. After installing v3.1 and following the directions to a tee, and keeping my setup as mentioned above the exact same, I was not getting ANY audio from my speakers. I re-checked everything, cables, settings, and re-downloaded the firmware and installed again and still no audio. Sound was not coming out but I did notice that the processor was changing or cycling through audio formats every couple of minutes. I would see TrueHD, then TrueHD 7.1, PCM 5.0, PCM 2.0, and PCM 0.0. With much frustration and having my TV on playing a video source watching the RMC cycle through audio formats with no sound and waiting for a call back from Emotiva customer support, the AUDIO RANDOMLY CAME ON AND STARTED WORKING in the proper audio atmos format. I turned my TV and Xbox off and on again while keeping the processor on and the sound continued to working. I then turned the processor off and on again and was right back to square one with no audio and the format changing every couple of minutes. I have found that if I leave the processor on with the tv and source playing, the audio will usually fix itself and randomly start playing between 30-60minutes. There was one day when I could not get the audio to work at all and had to revert to my TV speakers. I turned everything off for the night, went to work the next day and came home and turned everything on again and within 30-60min the processor started working. I talked to customer support and they said they had several people complaining about similar issues when using the HDFurry and would make a note of the problem and flag my account if they find a work around in the future but ultimately they did not have a fix unless I removed the Sharc-V2 and hooked everything into the processor. As of now, I turn my processor off every couple of days so it is not constantly on but when I do I have to roll the dice and see if the audio will eventually work or not for the day. Sorry to be long winded but if anyone has any recommendations or possible fixes please let me know. We have seen a few reports like this and I am sorry for the issue. We are currently working on this and have ordered a couple of different "Boxes" like what you described for evaluation. Once they arrive, I believe we will be able to figure it out in short order. Again, I am sorry for the issue and wish I had a work-a-round or fix for you right now but I do not. What I can say is that we are digging in and we will figure this out. Lonnie Lonnie, I think the issue is more generic. If using the RMC-1 as a sound only device , with no outward connection to a display, this is where the problems start. With no video handshake to a display on startup, the processor isn't happy.
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Post by kanichkhun on Nov 24, 2022 8:29:40 GMT -5
We have seen a few reports like this and I am sorry for the issue. We are currently working on this and have ordered a couple of different "Boxes" like what you described for evaluation. Once they arrive, I believe we will be able to figure it out in short order. Again, I am sorry for the issue and wish I had a work-a-round or fix for you right now but I do not. What I can say is that we are digging in and we will figure this out. Lonnie Lonnie, I think the issue is more generic. If using the RMC-1 as a sound only device , with no outward connection to a display, this is where the problems start. With no video handshake to a display on startup, the processor isn't happy. likewise for me, I can't play my music as before V2.5 without turning on the display to have it detect the audio. that's quite a bummer for me. i've to turn on my projector and then shut it down.
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Post by Stephen Park on Nov 24, 2022 8:49:51 GMT -5
Been update FW 3.1 on my 2.5 system with 8.x HDMI board installed. Follow all instructions which is on firmware board, follow all those labeled "Must done for this special update". Seriously, no issues. Just "Rebuilding Font" twice during cold reboot, it is gone when set VRO ON. It only took full 30 min for finish and restore backup settings from USB stick. No clicks or pops when SACD playing from my OPPO 203, through HDMI 3, DSD 5.1 and DSD 2.0. No clicks or pops when DSD file playing through network as OPPO 203 as DLNA renderer, via JRIVER on Raspberry Pi, next or previous track, no loss audio. No any suspecious blackout or no audio delay on play blu-ray disks with PCM 2.0, Dolby 5.1, Dolby ATMOS contents. Just a bit delaying for HDMI handshaking during change audio or video format, through HDMI 1, Apple TV 4K 2022 version with TvOS 16.x beta firmware. But because of this handshaking issue, Netflix movie's significant ta-da sound and "N" logo animation is totally loss because short blackout for video and audio during handshaking but not a big deal, no pops or clicks while fast forward or rewind video from point to point. It produces loud pops when FW 2.5 with Apple TV+ contents. No ovious problem while playing balanced analog in, which connected my Chord DAC. I use "Stereo" mode with only front L+R speaker assigned, with Dirac EQ enabled, sound as good as always. BUT reference stereo mode - which I was mainly use before when I don't use Dirac enabled stereo mode - sound very, very weird now. Really not like under FW 2.5. It was just less precise then Dirac enabled stereo mode when FW 2.5 was using, but now it sounds just CRAP. I don't know what causes this Reference Stereo mode getting ugly and sound like 10-bucks transistor radio like. Singer voice is like scattering hear and there, instruments placing oddly and really unlistenerble, like speaker phase is messed, Bass is almost missing.... Nowadays I normally don't use Reference Stereo Mode anyway, but found this problem just test for new 3.1 FW... a bit feel troubling and don't like it at all.I will do test my CD instead of SACD for check if any sound mute problem is there, like some others said. But now Bluray via HDMI 3, Apple TV via HDMI 1, HTPC via HDMI 4, DAC via XLR IN, LP via RCA 1, seems all works fine as it should. Under VRO sound passthrough, I don't see any less volume problem... it is as same as before.... Network is on manual static setting, not DHCP enabled, it is ok but no remote app is find my RMC-1L under same Wifi connection router/switch. It is like this since FW 2.0, I don't care because I don't use remote app anyway, Harmony is working nicely all the time. **ADDED : No ARC or CEC test at all because I drop all ARC craps long time ago.... it is mess and very troublesome all the time. On the strike-out contents that I said "Reference Stereo Mode" is turns bad under FW 3.1, it was my fault that I forget to say that I set front wide speaker for Bi-Amp mode, which is connected to 2nd Hifi stereo amp which powering on low pass connection for my front speaker, for Bi-Amping. On "Stereo" mode, bi-amp mode is no problem, no timing error on each channel but on Reference Stereo Mode is not. This "Circuit design error" is uncorrectable and therefore I can't and should not use Reference Stereo Mode when bi-Amp is enabled. I totally forgot it and just test Reference Stereo Mode without disable this feature when FW 3.1 installed and test. It is my bad, sorry for incorrect test result. By the way, CD or whatever source pause for over 2 sec while playing, after resume play, there is brief mute like a second duration. It is not only on CD but all kind of source except analog in. And again, HDMI ARC, is working flawlessly and without lost control, even after just turn off TV while watching it and turn on again, control is recovered and keep working. I've tested dozen times but always control is keep working, it was at least 20% of time to lost control under FW 2.5, it is good improvement, I should say. But is needs to use and test more constant and intensely as if everyday use, but now I don't use ARC after buy apple tv 4K... It is still nice work so far. I will wait 3.2 with much great expectation.
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Post by alexreusch on Nov 24, 2022 11:24:17 GMT -5
I updated from v2.5 to v3.1 following all the instructions. Now my RMC-1L requires more than 3 minutes from "Warm Boot" - Startup from LPS (Low Power Standby). Under v2.5 it took a little bit more than 1 minute and now under v3.1 it takes about another 2 minutes for "Updating Fonts". Until this "Font Update" is completed, the processor is not usable (no video/audio).
I did cold power, unplug power cables, disconnect TV, factory resets etc. Nothing helps. On every Warm Boot, the Update Fonts procedure starts again. I really hope, that you are working on a fix for this issue.
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Post by jdmusante on Nov 24, 2022 12:15:57 GMT -5
Happy Thanksgiving! I sent this into Emotiva as well but I thought I'd post here too. Not sure if they are working on Friday. I wanted to give the new firmware some time but its still giving me trouble since I installed this past past Saturday. I had been running the same firmware (2.4) that I've had on the unit since I received it last December. The issues I'm having were not present before I installed the new firmware. When I installed the firmware, the process was seamless. No issues. My System: RMC-1L (new HDMI board) Apple TV 4K (2021) Oppo UDP-205 Nintendo Switch (I rarely use this) UltraRendu -> Oppo 205 -> Balanced inputs on the RMC-1L Using Zeskit Maya 8K HDMI cables Issues I’m having now (I use VRO) - - Rethink HiFi on the right side of the display takes a long time to clear when I turn it on. - After I perform a cold reboot it seems to work well until I turn it off. When I turn it back on again it becomes mostly unresponsive. I need to perform another cold reboot for it to work again. - There are handshake issues with my Oppo where when I go to play a bluray, it can take up to a minute + for it to lock on. I ran a cold boot on this too and it did not help. It will eventually work, just takes what feels like forever. Any advice or settings help anyone could offer would be great. Jason Update - received an email from Damon at Emotiva at 5pm yesterday. Can't tell you how awesome that was when he probably wanted to get out the door and home for the holiday. His suggestion was to factory reset the unit. I did this and it worked perfectly, until I put the unit into standby mode. Upon starting it back up, Rethink HiFi sticks for a long time and it continues to be unresponsive. One thing I didn't mention before, it will not pass video when it does this. I cold rebooted it again. Works perfectly again. Very responsive, no issues with the 3 inputs I use (Oppo locks on as quickly as I've seen it). This time I unplugged the network connection and placed in back in standby. When turning it back on, same thing happens: unusable. Cold booted it again. Works again. This time I turned off thew VRO and put it in Low Power. Turned it off. Turned it back on 5 minutes later and everything works fine. Seems as though there is an issue with my VRO. Luckily, I have the new board and the boot time is only about a minute.
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Post by geebo on Nov 24, 2022 12:35:48 GMT -5
I updated from v2.5 to v3.1 following all the instructions. Now my RMC-1L requires more than 3 minutes from "Warm Boot" - Startup from LPS (Low Power Standby). Under v2.5 it took a little bit more than 1 minute and now under v3.1 it takes about another 2 minutes for "Updating Fonts". Until this "Font Update" is completed, the processor is not usable (no video/audio). I did cold power, unplug power cables, disconnect TV, factory resets etc. Nothing helps. On every Warm Boot, the Update Fonts procedure starts again. I really hope, that you are working on a fix for this issue. As mentioned previously in this thread if you have a processor that was bought before Dec. 2021 then you will get the updating fonts on every Low Power Standby boot. Using Video Remains On doesn't exhibit the behavior. Emotive is well aware and working on a fix.
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Post by alexreusch on Nov 24, 2022 13:59:07 GMT -5
I updated from v2.5 to v3.1 following all the instructions. Now my RMC-1L requires more than 3 minutes from "Warm Boot" - Startup from LPS (Low Power Standby). Under v2.5 it took a little bit more than 1 minute and now under v3.1 it takes about another 2 minutes for "Updating Fonts". Until this "Font Update" is completed, the processor is not usable (no video/audio). I did cold power, unplug power cables, disconnect TV, factory resets etc. Nothing helps. On every Warm Boot, the Update Fonts procedure starts again. I really hope, that you are working on a fix for this issue. As mentioned previously in this thread if you have a processor that was bought before Dec. 2021 then you will get the updating fonts on every Low Power Standby boot. Using Video Remains On doesn't exhibit the behavior. Emotive is well aware and working on a fix. I don't use Video Remains On, as it generated other problems in the past and is very energy ineffient. Using Low Power Standby the system has the best stability and 1 minute is just about acetable. But >3min? No way. So I really hope that Emotiva is working on a fix with high priority. I am surprised that with this long development time of v3.1 this has not been noticed in the quality control.
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Post by geebo on Nov 24, 2022 14:12:54 GMT -5
As mentioned previously in this thread if you have a processor that was bought before Dec. 2021 then you will get the updating fonts on every Low Power Standby boot. Using Video Remains On doesn't exhibit the behavior. Emotive is well aware and working on a fix. I don't use Video Remains On, as it generated other problems in the past and is very energy ineffient. Using Low Power Standby the system has the best stability and 1 minute is just about acetable. But >3min? No way. So I really hope that Emotiva is working on a fix with high priority. I am surprised that with this long development time of v3.1 this has not been noticed in the quality control. I don't use VRO either and I do not mind the extended boot from not doing so. I always have something I can do for three minutes but I realize not everyone feels the same. Lonnie has acknowledged the font loading issue and talked about it here: emotivalounge.proboards.com/post/1102884/thread
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Post by JKCashin on Nov 24, 2022 15:19:14 GMT -5
Do you have just LFE subs? I have one LFE, and two subs off a Y splitter on SW/Left set as Mono. I will try disabling SW/Left later... right now I just want to watch a movie Weird.... if I turn on Dirac, the LFE works. Sigh. UPDATE! TL;DR - LFE not working for some ATMOS sources with Dirac OFF So first, some details: Running XMC-2 with versions as follows: Item | Version | Firmware | 3.1 | FP | 2.11 | Kernel | 1.2 | HDMI | 8.1 | DSP0 DSP1 USB | 3.1 |
Speaker setup: Setting | Configuration | Reflective | Not configured | Crossover Slope | 24dB/Octave | Center Sub | LFE | Left/Right Sub | Mono | Rear Height | Sm Top Middle | Front Height Front Width | None | Rears Surrounds Center Fronts | Small |
I have several sources Source Name | Details | Blu-Ray-1 | Sony UBP-X800 | Blu-Ray-2 | Sony UBP-X800M2 Currently unavailable (loaned to friend) | Shield | NVidia Shield 2019 (the tube-shaped one) Model-P3430 Version-11 Kernel 4.9.141-tegra #2 Sun Oct 16 2022 20:38:10 | AppleTV | Apple TV 4K Model A1842 (32GB) tvOS 16.1 (19M65)
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So here's my test results.. skip ahead as there's really only two entries that show a difference Device | Format | Content | Dirac | LFE | Blu-Ray-1 | ATMOS | Midway 4K | Off | Working | Shield | ATMOS | AppleTV Purchased "The Greatest Showman" | Off | No sound | Shield | ATMOS | AppleTV Purchased "The Greatest Showman"
| On | Working | Shield
| ATMOS
| Netflix "Slumberland" | Off | No sound | Shield
| ATMOS
| Netflix "Slumberland"
| On | Working | Shield | DD+ 5.1 > D-Surround | Netflix "Godzilla vs. Kong" | Off | No sound | Shield | DD+ 5.1 > D-Surround
| Netflix "Godzilla vs. Kong"
| On | Working | Shield
| PCM2.0 > D-Surround | Youtube "Keyscape Sessions" "Ellis Hall" "Tiny Dancer"
| Off
| No sound | Shield
| PCM2.0 > D-Surround
| Youtube "Keyscape Sessions" "Ellis Hall" "Tiny Dancer"
| On
| Working | AppleTV | ATMOS | Purchased "Top Gun Maverick" | Off | No sound | AppleTV
| ATMOS
| Purchased "Top Gun Maverick"
| On | Working | AppleTV
| PCM 5.1
| Purchased "Despicable Me"
| Off | No sound | AppleTV
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| Purchased "Despicable Me"
| On | Working
| AppleTV
| PCM2.0 > D-Surround
| Youtube "Keyscape Sessions" "Ellis Hall" "Tiny Dancer" | Off
| No sound | AppleTV
| PCM2.0 > D-Surround
| Youtube "Keyscape Sessions" "Ellis Hall" "Tiny Dancer"
| On
| Working |
So the LFE does not work with Dirac off, except for with Blu-Ray
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Post by aswiss on Nov 24, 2022 16:48:56 GMT -5
My 3.1 runs now for a week. until today I did not had issues. But some minutes ago - I switched TV-channel and the volume of the center was about 20dB louder than normal. very strange behavior. this looks, like the RMC-1 can still fall in an unstable condition, where it reacts slowly to remote commands. I'm now awake and probably my neighbors too. The clicks an pops now happen very rarely, but this volume change thing will hopefully not happen again. please investigate and check if it can be fixed. I don't want to risk my speakers, even they could handle more.
My RMC-1 has the old HDMI Version.
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Post by Rafy on Nov 25, 2022 15:10:02 GMT -5
I just did the update, the update went fine. However now I don't have Dolby Atmos working on Netflix, surround works when it switches to Atmos silence. Never seem this before. I'm using an Nvidia Shield Pro. This is frustrating.
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Post by bitzerjdb on Nov 25, 2022 15:16:50 GMT -5
Good Day and Bad Day... The bad is the RMC-1L is out of the rack and packaged up. The good is that it's replacement (an Anthem AVM70 8K) works fantastic. All my funky sync issues are gone, HDMI locks are almost instant, and the sound (limited testing) is very good.... and the family is super happy (it just works). One area that was a real treat was the setup, the Web interface and a laptop made it a breeze... Hopefully the next gen processor takes the same approach.
Once the new processor comes out, I will probably upgrade the RMC-1L and evaluate which one is kept and which one goes.
I have 30 days to kick the tires, but at this point it looks like it's a go.
Again, Thanks to everyone for all your help over the past 5yrs... it has been greatly appreciated.
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Post by Lsc on Nov 25, 2022 16:38:57 GMT -5
Good Day and Bad Day... The bad is the RMC-1L is out of the rack and packaged up. The good is that it's replacement (an Anthem AVM70 8K) works fantastic. All my funky sync issues are gone, HDMI locks are almost instant, and the sound (limited testing) is very good.... and the family is super happy (it just works). One area that was a real treat was the setup, the Web interface and a laptop made it a breeze... Hopefully the next gen processor takes the same approach. Once the new processor comes out, I will probably upgrade the RMC-1L and evaluate which one is kept and which one goes. I have 30 days to kick the tires, but at this point it looks like it's a go. Again, Thanks to everyone for all your help over the past 5yrs... it has been greatly appreciated. Sounds good!!! It’s good to have an idea how the other processors are doing. I’ll be waiting for the G4P so whenever that comes out. I have no issues with the XMC-2 and even have ARC (finally) that works fairly well. Great feedback thanks! The G4P is supposed to have the web interface as well.
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Post by psraj on Nov 25, 2022 20:11:54 GMT -5
Good Day and Bad Day... The bad is the RMC-1L is out of the rack and packaged up. The good is that it's replacement (an Anthem AVM70 8K) works fantastic. All my funky sync issues are gone, HDMI locks are almost instant, and the sound (limited testing) is very good.... and the family is super happy (it just works). One area that was a real treat was the setup, the Web interface and a laptop made it a breeze... Hopefully the next gen processor takes the same approach. Once the new processor comes out, I will probably upgrade the RMC-1L and evaluate which one is kept and which one goes. I have 30 days to kick the tires, but at this point it looks like it's a go. Again, Thanks to everyone for all your help over the past 5yrs... it has been greatly appreciated. Nice! I cancelled my RMC-1L order 2 days ago because it was taking more than a week and no ETA on shipping. I got a great deal on Anthem AVM70, and expecting to have it in my hands next week.
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Post by Stephen Park on Nov 25, 2022 20:36:25 GMT -5
Good Day and Bad Day... The bad is the RMC-1L is out of the rack and packaged up. The good is that it's replacement (an Anthem AVM70 8K) works fantastic. All my funky sync issues are gone, HDMI locks are almost instant, and the sound (limited testing) is very good.... and the family is super happy (it just works). One area that was a real treat was the setup, the Web interface and a laptop made it a breeze... Hopefully the next gen processor takes the same approach. Once the new processor comes out, I will probably upgrade the RMC-1L and evaluate which one is kept and which one goes. I have 30 days to kick the tires, but at this point it looks like it's a go. Again, Thanks to everyone for all your help over the past 5yrs... it has been greatly appreciated. Hi, I also loyal customer of RMC-1 for couple years but keep eyes on AVM90/70, but also have interest for JBL Synthesys or Storm Audio if I have enough cash. What I've heard from friend who use AVM70 said that MAT Atmos is not working on it and it recognizies MAT Atmos as PCM 7.1. It means any stream service which provide DD+ Atmos contents will not playing as Atmos... it is serious matter, and I am not sure whether just my friend's setup is bad, or it's feature does not support it. For everyone's sake, can you confirm that Atmos works on Apple TV 4K with your AVM70? Of course, if you have enough time to do this. Thanks again and have a good weekend!
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Post by fbczar on Nov 25, 2022 20:58:32 GMT -5
I just did the update, the update went fine. However now I don't have Dolby Atmos working on Netflix, surround works when it switches to Atmos silence. Never seem this before. I'm using an Nvidia Shield Pro. This is frustrating. Please tell me why anyone would install the update given all the bugs.
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Post by Stephen Park on Nov 25, 2022 21:35:01 GMT -5
I just did the update, the update went fine. However now I don't have Dolby Atmos working on Netflix, surround works when it switches to Atmos silence. Never seem this before. I'm using an Nvidia Shield Pro. This is frustrating. Please tell me why anyone would install the update given all the bugs. In the name of the curiosity and desperate, or just meer expectation that it would improve something.... My case is mixed with first and last one. And luckly there is no bugs at all under my configuration, thanks God. If HDMI is 8.x firmware - VRO is only solution until fixed firmware is out (WHEN?) if network DHCP is enabled - set to static, this I belive prevent many things goes wrong Most of all, must do factory reset twice, before and after install new FW. I did it all the time and there was no issue since firm 1.6 to 3.1 And of course pray to god and finger tightly crossed that your unit is not one of the bad one. Good luck!
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Post by geebo on Nov 25, 2022 21:52:32 GMT -5
Please tell me why anyone would install the update given all the bugs. In the name of the curiosity and desperate, or just meer expectation that it would improve something.... My case is mixed with first and last one. And luckly there is no bugs at all under my configuration, thanks God. If HDMI is 8.x firmware - VRO is only solution until fixed firmware is out (WHEN?) if network DHCP is enabled - set to static, this I belive prevent many things goes wrong Most of all, must do factory reset twice, before and after install new FW. I did it all the time and there was no issue since firm 1.6 to 3.1 And of course pray to god and finger tightly crossed that your unit is not one of the bad one. Good luck! VRO is not the only solution. You can use LPS with longer boot times. DHCP has been working fine for me for a long time. What problems do you have with DHCP? Not sure what you mean by the last two items.
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Post by Stephen Park on Nov 25, 2022 22:12:09 GMT -5
In the name of the curiosity and desperate, or just meer expectation that it would improve something.... My case is mixed with first and last one. And luckly there is no bugs at all under my configuration, thanks God. If HDMI is 8.x firmware - VRO is only solution until fixed firmware is out (WHEN?) if network DHCP is enabled - set to static, this I belive prevent many things goes wrong Most of all, must do factory reset twice, before and after install new FW. I did it all the time and there was no issue since firm 1.6 to 3.1 And of course pray to god and finger tightly crossed that your unit is not one of the bad one. Good luck! VRO is not the only solution. You can use LPS with longer boot times. DHCP has been working fine for me for a long time. What problems do you have with DHCP? Not sure what you mean by the last two items. Oh yes, my explanation is not enough.... VRO prevent "Font upgrade..." message which old HDMI board shows, and it takes long time to finish boot-up... When I set DHCP enabled, IP address is provided from router but my unit getting sluggish... after set static IP address, problem solved. I think that it might relate something with "unresponsive unit" after FW update. First and last mean - curitosity and meer expectation. FW 2.5 was almost perfect for me except pops and clicks, and no count ARC issues because I don't use ARC. So, FW 3.1 upgrade was from just curiosity and meer expectation, in my case.
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