t3x3l
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Post by t3x3l on Nov 17, 2022 1:43:32 GMT -5
I had just noticed my mid tops were super low but front and rear heights were fine. What I did to fix it was factory reset. Ran the built in pink and they were back. Then re-saved my Dirac presets over from the PC. Manually set back up the rest of the settings and I'm back in action.
Another note I was unable to get audio after the 3.1 firmware update from from the audio out of my VRROOM. My temp fix is somehow I am able to do audio out from VRROOM to input 8 of XMC 2. Then I have a HDMI going from input #2 of my LG C1 (ARC Port) going back to the arc audio output of the XMC 2. I have audio now when I select input 8 (but not ARC HDMI input) but if I remove the ARC cable from the TV to the XMC, I lose audio... lol wut
The only way I could get audio other than the way listed above was to eliminate the VRROOM and plug my devices (Ps5, Shield, 820) directly into the inputs of the XMC. At that point I do not need the ARC cable between the TV and the XMC and audio works by selecting the appropriate input on the XMC. I want my 120 hz from my PC and PS5 via the VRROOM without the extra ARC cable. I didn't have to use on 2.5 everything worked fine. Pretty sure this is all a bug.
Setup:
LG C1 77"
VRROOM for PS5, Shield, Pany 820
XMC 2
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Post by Topend on Nov 17, 2022 2:28:43 GMT -5
I’m not 100% sure but it looks like HDR10+ might work with this update. My Apple TV is displaying this. I’ll test later with my Bluray Player.
Edit: I can confirm HDR10+ now works. I tested this using the Spears & Munson UHD HRS Benchmark Blu-ray Disc.
Dave.
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Post by napsterau on Nov 17, 2022 6:19:37 GMT -5
Far out, was looking so forward to this firmware in hopes to correct some CEC issues and as it come out my XMC-2 decides to no longer like life and quit on me.
Does anyone have a Nvidia Shield and has the CEC volume control started working again after this update?
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Post by markc on Nov 17, 2022 7:36:30 GMT -5
I have today self-diagnosed paranoia
I believe these processors seem to hang on to gremlins and Keith has previously confirmed that a factory reset every now and then can clear these out.
I have never been happy with my processor and with almost every firmware update so far, one part or other has hung and needed a hard reset.
One thing that has struck me is that with such a major update ((hopefully), I am not going to simply restore my settings from a backup but will manually enter them. I just don’t trust Emotiva to not have some random byte of data that gets uploaded into a random place and screws something up.
I’ve just used my phone and took less than 2 minutes to photograph my TV screen with every relevant tab in the settings.
finally, I am unplugging every HDMI cable, in and out.
Every update has appeared so precarious that I don’t want anything trying an HDMI handshake while the XMC-2 is updating
Here I go…..
update:
it went smoothly, and I sat there for 8 minutes simply hoping it wouldn’t brick my processor (requiring a return to base repair like other firmware updates have had), but, no, all good so far and my user settings are all quickly entered from anew.
Now. I do have the constantly updating fonts glitch (how on earth was this missed when it is reported so many times! Did Emotiva not test on all iterations of RMC/XMC???), but as I burn fossil fuels to run "low power" standby, it isn’t a worry for me.
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Post by marcl on Nov 17, 2022 8:00:50 GMT -5
Has anyone verified if the bass management native in the RMC-1/XMC-2 has been corrected eg test tone volume mismatch, etc etc? No bass management fixes in this one, it's the same as in 2.5. It's been stated that it will be part of the significant rewrite of code that will be in a later (4.x?) release. I'm hoping that does not require waiting for the G4P upgrade path. |
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Post by doc1963 on Nov 17, 2022 8:01:56 GMT -5
One important thing that many either don’t know, or neglect to do, is to UNPLUG YOUR DISPLAY FROM THE WALL. It may be a little known fact, but your display is the CEC controller and stores the CEC map. All functions that rely on CEC, including HDMI-ARC, start there.
Take five minutes and unplug your display from the wall while you’re doing this firmware update. Doing so will reset the CEC controller and CEC map. This five minutes might go a long way to solving some of these problems.
And for those who use HDFURY devices… There can be only ONE “audio processor” in the CEC chain. If you’re using your G3P connected directly to your display to support HDMI-ARC, then make sure your HDFURY is set to be an HDMI “switch” rather than “audio processor”. If you were using your HDFURY to support ARC, then it is certainly set as an audio device.
When your CEC controller (your display) sees two connected “audio processors”, it will send audio to neither.
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Post by markc on Nov 17, 2022 8:08:07 GMT -5
Hey NicS, I just put 2 and 2 together.  I was going back through our previous discussion and I don't see where I mentioned the cable, can you remind me please? I would appreciate it. Lonnie Lonnie, I looked back trough my emails. It was actually Brent who recommended the cable: RUIPRO 8K Fiber Optic HDMI Cable 48Gbps 8K / 60Hz 4K / 120Hz Dynamic HDR eARC HDCP2.2/2.3 I can’t help thinking you are making life difficult for yourself as well as trying to get Emotiva to troubleshoot a cable issue. Your fibre-optic cable adds a triple layer of complexity and potential woes because there has to be an electrical to optical to electrical signal change inside this cable. Just put the two devices up to three metres apart to test them with a standard certified high speed HDMI cable and I wouldn’t mind betting a lack of issues will be revealed. If so, it is purely a cable issue and not an Emotiva one |
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Post by cawgijoe on Nov 17, 2022 8:16:02 GMT -5
Update went smooth, everything worked as documented. The pops and clicks are basically gone. After the update there is one thing that is different. I mostly use a Roku connected to the XMC-2 which is then connected to the TV. I use the XMC-2 with the HDMI Standby in the "Video Remains On". With the XMC-2 turned off and watching the Roku the audio volume that is passed thru to the TV is very low and the TV volume must be turned up nearly all the way. I have this same low volume on the TV speakers with Directv. I haven't checked other sources yet, but I'm betting it's the same. |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Nov 17, 2022 8:16:55 GMT -5
Hey NicS, I just put 2 and 2 together. I was going back through our previous discussion and I don't see where I mentioned the cable, can you remind me please? I would appreciate it. Lonnie Lonnie, I looked back trough my emails. It was actually Brent who recommended the cable: RUIPRO 8K Fiber Optic HDMI Cable 48Gbps 8K / 60Hz 4K / 120Hz Dynamic HDR eARC HDCP2.2/2.3 There is a problem with the RUIPRO Fiber cables drawing more power than allowed via the HDMI Spec. Have you installed the power injector? I would get sync issues with mine, and after installing the injector, the issues went away. The testing of the cable was done by someone on the HDfury Discord Support Channel. |
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 17, 2022 8:29:16 GMT -5
Lonnie, I looked back trough my emails. It was actually Brent who recommended the cable: RUIPRO 8K Fiber Optic HDMI Cable 48Gbps 8K / 60Hz 4K / 120Hz Dynamic HDR eARC HDCP2.2/2.3 There is a problem with the RUIPRO Fiber cables drawing more power than allowed via the HDMI Spec. Have you installed the power injector? I would get sync issues with mine, and after installing the injector, the issues went away. The testing of the cable was done by someone on the HDfury Discord Support Channel. Does the power injector come with the cable? If not, what injector do you use? I use a Ruipro 4K ultra-slim active optical cable. No injector. Occasional sync issues. |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Nov 17, 2022 8:36:15 GMT -5
There is a problem with the RUIPRO Fiber cables drawing more power than allowed via the HDMI Spec. Have you installed the power injector? I would get sync issues with mine, and after installing the injector, the issues went away. The testing of the cable was done by someone on the HDfury Discord Support Channel. Does the power injector come with the cable? If not, what injector do you use? I use a Ruipro 4K ultra-slim active optical cable. No injector. Occasional sync issues. Yes, they include one with the cable. I have a surge strip with USB power and use that to power the injector. |
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Post by calle on Nov 17, 2022 8:52:37 GMT -5
I have still the same issue with CEC that volume stop working together with Nvidia Shield. Got some small pop sometime when changing mode/source but can't say it is a problem for me. Have not yet had the issue where I have to switch mode because of metallic sound distortions. Far out, was looking so forward to this firmware in hopes to correct some CEC issues and as it come out my XMC-2 decides to no longer like life and quit on me. Does anyone have a Nvidia Shield and has the CEC volume control started working again after this update? |
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Post by Ninjician on Nov 17, 2022 9:21:16 GMT -5
I have having worse handshake issues.
HDMI video will be faster, but will not lock onto audio, then will do another blackout to re handshake and then acquire audio.
The CEC issues/fixes aren’t worth the extra delay.
Plus, the unit has locked onto HDMI ARC even though I’m not feeding it any Audio from the TV. I’ll get instances that pretty much cause it to lock up.
CEC is getting turned off.
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 17, 2022 9:25:10 GMT -5
Did the FW3.1 upgrade. Function seems a bit better. VRO is fine for the Winter. The room needs some more heat anyway. Sound - played parts of Blade Runner 2049. I use this movie as a test disc. BR 2049 uses the Heights extensively. System is setup as 7.2.6. All 6 Height channels played with FW2.3. The mid-Heights are missing with FW3.1. What was done to FW3.1 concerning the Height channels? Speaker setup in the Menu is as before. I tested the channels with the internal pink noise. All channels work. A level issue with the pink noise seems to be fixed with FW3.1. Try going into the speaker setup menu and cycle the middle heights. They are dual purpose so it may just need a cycle to tell it they are there. Should resolve it. Lonnie That didn't work. I have done a few other things. I f I set the back and/or front heights to None, the Middle Top plays. Cycling of any Heights does nothing to bring back the Middle in 7.1.6. Doing a Factory Reset and Restore, or a cold boot, does nothing. I've set the Heights to Front Height and Middle Top for 7.1.4. I'll keep this until EMO has a fix for the Middle height channels to allow 7.1.6. |
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Post by rew452 on Nov 17, 2022 9:26:40 GMT -5
On my Xfinity X1 -Settings/Device Settings/Audio, I changed "HDNI Audio Output" to Expert Mode. Which has to do with Auto Detect(Dolby Digital Plus) Setting to Expert Mode works
This seems to have corrected the lack of audio on Music channels.
I am still seeing "Fonts re-loading issue.
I also had trouble with using flash drives, it seems that V3 flash drive devices are not seen by XMC-2.
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Post by cawgijoe on Nov 17, 2022 9:46:53 GMT -5
I have having worse handshake issues. HDMI video will be faster, but will not lock onto audio, then will do another blackout to re handshake and then acquire audio. The CEC issues/fixes aren’t worth the extra delay. Plus, the unit has locked onto HDMI ARC even though I’m not feeding it any Audio from the TV. I’ll get instances that pretty much cause it to lock up. CEC is getting turned off. When I first turn my system on, the video and audio will come on, then the screen will go black for a couple seconds as the HDMI re-syncs, then both audio and video are on and good to go. I'm used to the secondary "handshake" and the small delay does not bother me. I don't use ARC/CEC. As others have pointed out here, ARC/CEC seems to send a signal even if you have turned it off in your TV and processor. There is a Lindy "CEC-less" adapter that can solve this problem that you can buy. Lindy is the companie's name. www.amazon.com/Lindy-HDMI-Adapter-Female-41232/dp/B00DL48KVI |
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Post by Lonnie on Nov 17, 2022 9:56:06 GMT -5
Try going into the speaker setup menu and cycle the middle heights. They are dual purpose so it may just need a cycle to tell it they are there. Should resolve it. Lonnie That didn't work. I have done a few other things. I f I set the back and/or front heights to None, the Middle Top plays. Cycling of any Heights does nothing to bring back the Middle in 7.1.6. Doing a Factory Reset and Restore, or a cold boot, does nothing. I've set the Heights to Front Height and Middle Top for 7.1.4. I'll keep this until EMO has a fix for the Middle height channels to allow 7.1.6. We're digging into this now. Lonnie |
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Post by Lonnie on Nov 17, 2022 9:58:23 GMT -5
I have having worse handshake issues. HDMI video will be faster, but will not lock onto audio, then will do another blackout to re handshake and then acquire audio. The CEC issues/fixes aren’t worth the extra delay. Plus, the unit has locked onto HDMI ARC even though I’m not feeding it any Audio from the TV. I’ll get instances that pretty much cause it to lock up. CEC is getting turned off. If the processor keeps going to ARC, then it is the TV telling it to do this. We have a Visio here that does it as well. I'm sorry to say that you will have turn off the CEC. Lonnie |
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 17, 2022 10:00:19 GMT -5
That didn't work. I have done a few other things. I f I set the back and/or front heights to None, the Middle Top plays. Cycling of any Heights does nothing to bring back the Middle in 7.1.6. Doing a Factory Reset and Restore, or a cold boot, does nothing. I've set the Heights to Front Height and Middle Top for 7.1.4. I'll keep this until EMO has a fix for the Middle height channels to allow 7.1.6. We're digging into this now. Lonnie No problem. Just letting you know what I tried. Thought it might help. Perhaps someone else will have some additional clues. |
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Post by ElectricKoolAid on Nov 17, 2022 10:27:07 GMT -5
I have still the same issue with CEC that volume stop working together with Nvidia Shield. Got some small pop sometime when changing mode/source but can't say it is a problem for me. Have not yet had the issue where I have to switch mode because of metallic sound distortions. Far out, was looking so forward to this firmware in hopes to correct some CEC issues and as it come out my XMC-2 decides to no longer like life and quit on me. Does anyone have a Nvidia Shield and has the CEC volume control started working again after this update? Ah bummer, I was really hoping this would resolve the CEC issues. I don't think it's totally to blame on Emo as for me the CEC volume functionality stopped working with the latest Shield update and I know there was known issues with that. Still would have been nice to see this update improve the functionality. All in all I think I may hold off on this update to wait until the HDMI rewrites with the new dev as that sounds very promising, or maybe just wait a couple more weeks to see how things play out... |
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