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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 17, 2022 10:38:55 GMT -5
As a soon to be new owner of RMC-1L, I have a couple questions, - Can I use my Logitech harmony remote with emotiva?- Is there any Emotiva remote app available for iOS?Thanks. Yes, and yes! The iOS App can be downloaded from the App Store, search for ‘Emotiva Remote’. The Logitech database can be searched for XMC-2 to get the Device codes. Here are two threads where you can get more information and discuss these devices and products. The Harmony Remote ThreadThe Emotiva Remote Thread |
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Post by markc on Nov 17, 2022 10:39:24 GMT -5
I have still the same issue with CEC that volume stop working together with Nvidia Shield. Far out, was looking so forward to this firmware in hopes to correct some CEC issues and as it come out my XMC-2 decides to no longer like life and quit on me. Does anyone have a Nvidia Shield and has the CEC volume control started working again after this update? My Shield Pro CEC volume works after the update as well as it did before (perfectly) |
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Post by geebo on Nov 17, 2022 10:54:12 GMT -5
I have having worse handshake issues. HDMI video will be faster, but will not lock onto audio, then will do another blackout to re handshake and then acquire audio. The CEC issues/fixes aren’t worth the extra delay. Plus, the unit has locked onto HDMI ARC even though I’m not feeding it any Audio from the TV. I’ll get instances that pretty much cause it to lock up. CEC is getting turned off. I unchecked the box for Input Change under CEC in the RMC-1L. That seems to fix the issue with the input always changing to HDMI-ARC. |
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Post by markc on Nov 17, 2022 10:54:24 GMT -5
Try going into the speaker setup menu and cycle the middle heights. They are dual purpose so it may just need a cycle to tell it they are there. Should resolve it. Lonnie That didn't work. I have done a few other things. I f I set the back and/or front heights to None, the Middle Top plays. Cycling of any Heights does nothing to bring back the Middle in 7.1.6. Doing a Factory Reset and Restore, or a cold boot, does nothing. I've set the Heights to Front Height and Middle Top for 7.1.4. I'll keep this until EMO has a fix for the Middle height channels to allow 7.1.6. Just a thought - check which outputs your mid heights are physically plugged into. As I set mine up manually from a factory reset without using a restore settings, I noticed that the speaker configuration is highly flexible. The width, front height, rear height and left/right subwoofer outputs can all be set to be top middle. After the update I initially configured my top heights as Top Middle (I have 7.1.2) and there was no ceiling sound with Atmos….. which wasn’t surprising as my Top Middle speakers are actually plugged into the Rear Height XLR outputs of my XMC-2! (nb, unrelated but unless you genuinely have front heights which are at the same forward level as your front and centre speakers, and just one pair of overhead Atmos speakers, then you probably ought to be using Front Top and Rear Top for the .4. Middle Top is only used for .2 or .6 Atmos setups) |
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Post by melm on Nov 17, 2022 11:13:40 GMT -5
About most of the way thru the update. Screen said 'updating fonts' not 'rebuilding fonts'. Not a big deal, but could confuse people.
Mine did the firmware update, went into standby (orange light on front panel) but has 2 HDMI texts on the screen. I'll wait awhile and see what happens. Doesn't seem to be restarting on its own.
Instructions say to power cycle and restart that way, so will follow those instructions.
Manually re-started, restored from USB backup. All seems well. Great job Emotiva!
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Post by NicS on Nov 17, 2022 11:19:49 GMT -5
Lonnie, I looked back trough my emails. It was actually Brent who recommended the cable: RUIPRO 8K Fiber Optic HDMI Cable 48Gbps 8K / 60Hz 4K / 120Hz Dynamic HDR eARC HDCP2.2/2.3 I can’t help thinking you are making life difficult for yourself as well as trying to get Emotiva to troubleshoot a cable issue. Your fibre-optic cable adds a triple layer of complexity and potential woes because there has to be an electrical to optical to electrical signal change inside this cable. Just put the two devices up to three metres apart to test them with a standard certified high speed HDMI cable and I wouldn’t mind betting a lack of issues will be revealed. If so, it is purely a cable issue and not an Emotiva one I'm not trying to get Emotiva to troubleshoot a cable issue. I'm merely replying to Lonnie's question about what HDMI cable I was using - which is the one Emotiva recommended. Brent recommended I buy this $100 cable to fix an issue that is clearly with the processor, as is demonstrated by the countless others on this forum with the same problem. |
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Post by markc on Nov 17, 2022 11:28:20 GMT -5
I have having worse handshake issues. HDMI video will be faster, but will not lock onto audio, then will do another blackout to re handshake and then acquire audio. The CEC issues/fixes aren’t worth the extra delay. Plus, the unit has locked onto HDMI ARC even though I’m not feeding it any Audio from the TV. I’ll get instances that pretty much cause it to lock up. CEC is getting turned off. If the processor keeps going to ARC, then it is the TV telling it to do this. We have a Visio here that does it as well. I'm sorry to say that you will have turn off the CEC. Lonnie Won’t disabling “Input change" in the CEC options of the XMC/RMC sort this out and prevent input changing in the G3P? I only have volume (and enable, obviously) checked on mine, as I don’t want other devices changing inputs for me. I use Harmony for that. I only use CEC for volume (the Shield remote, or the TV remote or the Harmony can thus all change volume, whichever I find first!) but mainly have CEC enabled in my XMC-2 because it’s needed for ARC, isn’t it) edit: What Geebo said, above  |
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Post by okjazz on Nov 17, 2022 11:30:32 GMT -5
Great Update!
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Post by doc1963 on Nov 17, 2022 11:36:17 GMT -5
I can’t help thinking you are making life difficult for yourself as well as trying to get Emotiva to troubleshoot a cable issue. Your fibre-optic cable adds a triple layer of complexity and potential woes because there has to be an electrical to optical to electrical signal change inside this cable. Just put the two devices up to three metres apart to test them with a standard certified high speed HDMI cable and I wouldn’t mind betting a lack of issues will be revealed. If so, it is purely a cable issue and not an Emotiva one I'm not trying to get Emotiva to troubleshoot a cable issue. I'm merely replying to Lonnie's question about what HDMI cable I was using - which is the one Emotiva recommended. Brent recommended I buy this $100 cable to fix an issue that is clearly with the processor, as is demonstrated by the countless others on this forum with the same problem. Just as a data counterpoint, I’ve used an 8 meter Ruipro 4K hybrid fiber optic cable for a few years on both my RMC-1L as well as my Marantz AV8805. I’ve never experienced any problems whatsoever from this cable and it will pass anything that I throw at it… It never flinches. No power inserter has ever been required. While what was said to you isn’t necessarily inaccurate, it’s also not necessarily accurate. There are plenty of FO cables that aren’t well designed, but Ruipro isn’t known to be one of those. |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Nov 17, 2022 11:48:18 GMT -5
There were two known issues with Ruipro. One was that they had a defect in their early 8K Fiber cables (the green ones), and offered a free replacement (I got one). The second issue is that their Fiber Cables (the Green ones were tested) draw higher then the allowed amount defined in the HDMI spec. This is not an issue with most devices because the ports can provide the voltage. But... in the HDfury world, the Arcana device was being toasted due to the high draw. I also had a Ruipro cable give up the ghost. On the bright side, Ruipro is a FANTASTIC company and sent me out a replacement ASAP. I use their shorter cables as interconnects (way overkill), but they are super flexible and easy to work with.
FYI - Most Fiber HDMI cables draw over the HDMI spec. The newest spec provides a lot more power...so in the future, this will not be an issue.
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 17, 2022 12:01:14 GMT -5
That didn't work. I have done a few other things. I f I set the back and/or front heights to None, the Middle Top plays. Cycling of any Heights does nothing to bring back the Middle in 7.1.6. Doing a Factory Reset and Restore, or a cold boot, does nothing. I've set the Heights to Front Height and Middle Top for 7.1.4. I'll keep this until EMO has a fix for the Middle height channels to allow 7.1.6. Just a thought - check which outputs your mid heights are physically plugged into. As I set mine up manually from a factory reset without using a restore settings, I noticed that the speaker configuration is highly flexible. The width, front height, rear height and left/right subwoofer outputs can all be set to be top middle. After the update I initially configured my top heights as Top Middle (I have 7.1.2) and there was no ceiling sound with Atmos….. which wasn’t surprising as my Top Middle speakers are actually plugged into the Rear Height XLR outputs of my XMC-2! (nb, unrelated but unless you genuinely have front heights which are at the same forward level as your front and centre speakers, and just one pair of overhead Atmos speakers, then you probably ought to be using Front Top and Rear Top for the .4. Middle Top is only used for .2 or .6 Atmos setups) My Middle Tops are setup in the configurable Left/Right Sub channels. It's the only remaining available channels when both front and back Heights are used. I know the front and back Heights can be configured for Middle. The Width channels have no provision for Middle Heights/Tops - would be nice if they did, and leave all the Sub channels available for multi-Sub use. My front Heights are high in-wall, above L&R, at a 45deg horizontal angle from MLP. Middle Tops are in-ceiling at a 45 deg vertical angle from MLP and about 15 deg forward from MLP. Rear Heights are high in-wall on the back wall at about a 45 deg horizontal angle. The front and rear heights are not in ideal vertical positions to be used as .4. They leave a hole in the middle. The front heights and mid-tops work better as .4 in my present config. I would prefer to use .4 in more ideal ceiling locations, to accommodate overlap in Dolby and DTS standards, but am not yet willing to cut new ceiling holes. I will probably just raise the back surrounds a bit and use the mid-tops and front heights for overhead immersion if I choose .4. I also tried a .2 setup. with my Middle Tops. It is a bit different, more clear, but no worse. Ideal location for .2. Sometimes less is more. If I lower the level a on front and back heights by a couple of dB with the .6 setup, this solidifies the overhead soundfield - gives me the solid overhead of .2 with some front to back spread. I can't have everything without some room reconstruction work. Thanks for the advice. |
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Post by rew452 on Nov 17, 2022 12:10:12 GMT -5
It now looks like I have one more casualty Oppo UDP205 plays Dolby Vision ok, Sound is stuck PCM 2.0!
It work just fine on firmware 2.5 but on 3.1 sound never changes from PCM 2.0
I even unplugged AC to Oppo to see if it would make a difference.
Also hearing clicks on audio
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 17, 2022 12:12:40 GMT -5
I'm not trying to get Emotiva to troubleshoot a cable issue. I'm merely replying to Lonnie's question about what HDMI cable I was using - which is the one Emotiva recommended. Brent recommended I buy this $100 cable to fix an issue that is clearly with the processor, as is demonstrated by the countless others on this forum with the same problem. Just as a data counterpoint, I’ve used an 8 meter Ruipro 4K hybrid fiber optic cable for a few years on both my RMC-1L as well as my Marantz AV8805. I’ve never experienced any problems whatsoever from this cable and it will pass anything that I throw at it… It never flinches. No power inserter has ever been required. While what was said to you isn’t necessarily inaccurate, it’s also not necessarily accurate. There are plenty of FO cables that aren’t well designed, but Ruipro isn’t known to be one of those. My Ruipro 4K FO cable is 20 meters long. I've had a few random sync problems, but nothing I could directly attribute to the cable. It seems to pass anything I throw at it. No power inserter. In use for the last two years. I looked at the latest 8K Ruipro FO cable at Amazon. I didn't see a power inserter with it. |
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Post by NicS on Nov 17, 2022 12:16:12 GMT -5
I'm not trying to get Emotiva to troubleshoot a cable issue. I'm merely replying to Lonnie's question about what HDMI cable I was using - which is the one Emotiva recommended. Brent recommended I buy this $100 cable to fix an issue that is clearly with the processor, as is demonstrated by the countless others on this forum with the same problem. Just as a data counterpoint, I’ve used an 8 meter Ruipro 4K hybrid fiber optic cable for a few years on both my RMC-1L as well as my Marantz AV8805. I’ve never experienced any problems whatsoever from this cable and it will pass anything that I throw at it… It never flinches. No power inserter has ever been required. While what was said to you isn’t necessarily inaccurate, it’s also not necessarily accurate. There are plenty of FO cables that aren’t well designed, but Ruipro isn’t known to be one of those. Very much appreciate your response. I bought the cable in question, recommend by Emotiva, to remove any potential issue from the chain. I was suspicious that it could be a cable bandwidth related issue, but I deferred to Emotiva's advice to at least take this off the table as a culprit. |
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Post by bitzerjdb on Nov 17, 2022 12:21:34 GMT -5
Just as a data counterpoint, I’ve used an 8 meter Ruipro 4K hybrid fiber optic cable for a few years on both my RMC-1L as well as my Marantz AV8805. I’ve never experienced any problems whatsoever from this cable and it will pass anything that I throw at it… It never flinches. No power inserter has ever been required. While what was said to you isn’t necessarily inaccurate, it’s also not necessarily accurate. There are plenty of FO cables that aren’t well designed, but Ruipro isn’t known to be one of those. My Ruipro 4K FO cable is 20 meters long. I've had a few random sync problems, but nothing I could directly attribute to the cable. It seems to pass anything I throw at it. No power inserter. In use for the last two years. I looked at the latest 8K Ruipro FO cable at Amazon. I didn't see a power inserter with it. They all come with the injector. Their manual specifies how to use it if needed. |
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Post by geebo on Nov 17, 2022 12:26:41 GMT -5
It now looks like I have one more casualty Oppo UDP205 plays Dolby Vision ok, Sound is stuck PCM 2.0! It work just fine on firmware 2.5 but on 3.1 sound never changes from PCM 2.0 I even unplugged AC to Oppo to see if it would make a difference. Also hearing clicks on audio I just tried with my Oppo 203 which played Dolby TrueHD and DTS MA just fine. Could the 205 be different and I wonder if others are seeing this. |
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Post by PaulBe on Nov 17, 2022 12:29:12 GMT -5
It now looks like I have one more casualty Oppo UDP205 plays Dolby Vision ok, Sound is stuck PCM 2.0! It work just fine on firmware 2.5 but on 3.1 sound never changes from PCM 2.0 I even unplugged AC to Oppo to see if it would make a difference. Also hearing clicks on audio I just tried with my Oppo 203 which played Dolby TrueHD and DTS MA just fine. Could the 205 be different and I wonder if others are seeing this. My oppo 205 is playing everything just fine. Playing a DTS MA 5.1 disc right now. Dolby Atmos earlier today and last night. RMC-1L displaying and decoding properly. |
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Post by ttocs on Nov 17, 2022 13:49:49 GMT -5
I also had trouble with using flash drives, it seems that V3 flash drive devices are not seen by XMC-2. I had same issue with FW2.5. It's just a case of, first time inserting the USB stick it's not recognized. I pulled it out, backed out of the menu, then second time everything works. |
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Post by trevorlj on Nov 17, 2022 14:57:50 GMT -5
I did the update (restored previous settings) and CEC/ARC is still a mess with my Sony TV (Z8H). Followed the instructions to a T...including unplugging the TV. Once CEC was enabled on everything all of my devices popped up on the TV's input list (a first - yay!) but switching devices on the TV would not prompt an input change on the RMC-1L. ARC was also a fail. Whenever I attempted to select external sound the TV would error out then go back to onboard sound (this is with the TV on over-the-air (OTA) channels and the RMC-1L on HDMI ARC).
Turned off all CEC and ARC functionality and I'm back where I began using my Harmony remote to reconfigure between inputs and Toslink to watch OTA TV.
Otherwise everything is A-OK. No issues importing my old settings. Running a 9.1.6 setup and the overheads are good to go with no level change (checked via Jupiter Ascending's Chicago battle). Input switching and audio lock-on seems to be a hair faster.
Sad there's still no DTS:X Pro, Dolby Upmixer updates (to include wides), or cross-upmixing.
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Post by thecrusherk on Nov 17, 2022 15:04:27 GMT -5
That didn't work. I have done a few other things. I f I set the back and/or front heights to None, the Middle Top plays. Cycling of any Heights does nothing to bring back the Middle in 7.1.6. Doing a Factory Reset and Restore, or a cold boot, does nothing. I've set the Heights to Front Height and Middle Top for 7.1.4. I'll keep this until EMO has a fix for the Middle height channels to allow 7.1.6. Just a thought - check which outputs your mid heights are physically plugged into. As I set mine up manually from a factory reset without using a restore settings, I noticed that the speaker configuration is highly flexible. The width, front height, rear height and left/right subwoofer outputs can all be set to be top middle. After the update I initially configured my top heights as Top Middle (I have 7.1.2) and there was no ceiling sound with Atmos….. which wasn’t surprising as my Top Middle speakers are actually plugged into the Rear Height XLR outputs of my XMC-2! (nb, unrelated but unless you genuinely have front heights which are at the same forward level as your front and centre speakers, and just one pair of overhead Atmos speakers, then you probably ought to be using Front Top and Rear Top for the .4. Middle Top is only used for .2 or .6 Atmos setups) I double checked everything and it worked prior to upgrade. The test tones all work and route correctly to the speaker. No sound to top middle with full Dolby Atmos content. All other channels of my 9.1.6 function corectly as expected. Thanks Lonnie for looking into this, hopefully an easy reproduction. If you could let us know if when you have confirmed it on your end. Best regards, Lee |
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