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Post by aswiss on Nov 17, 2022 15:08:03 GMT -5
My first Impression:FW Installation worked, Restore of Backup worked, all what worked before is still, Pop/Click Sounds when switching TV Channels are gone. Have not tested everything. Good Job. But: - OSD with Dolby Vision is still yellow
- SA-CD Issue with click/pop sound when stopping/ejecting the disc.
- The wait time until sound switching feels long (I know, we can't have everything)
- Please fix the Updating Fonts from Reboot - no need to have this every time.
- Other things to be found
DIRAC will re-measure and then see. Currently not used.
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Post by thecrusherk on Nov 17, 2022 15:18:03 GMT -5
Went back and have tried many things minus reflashing firmware which I don't want to do at this point. CEC/ARC behaves similar as others reported. No power to RMC and other connected devices including the TV for period of time to reset has no effect on the results. This was done during the upgrade 100% instructions not rushing it because I know how important it is to follow the steps to the letter to keep it as clean as possible and to not introduce unintended variables and risk success.
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Post by junchoon on Nov 17, 2022 15:29:30 GMT -5
My first Impression:FW Installation worked, Restore of Backup worked, all what worked before is still, Pop/Click Sounds when switching TV Channels are gone. Have not tested everything. Good Job. But: - OSD with Dolby Vision is still yellow
- SA-CD Issue with click/pop sound when stopping/ejecting the disc.
- The wait time until sound switching feels long (I know, we can't have everything)
- Please fix the Updating Fonts from Reboot - no need to have this every time.
- Other things to be found
DIRAC will re-measure and then see. Currently not used.
Hi Which sa-cd player u r using? Connection method? XLR? HDMI? RCA? Digital? Thanks |
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Post by thecrusherk on Nov 17, 2022 15:31:26 GMT -5
I think I solved my issue. I changed to Preset 2 and User no Dirac EQ at all on that preset. Then went to Preset 1 and regardless of EQ curves chosen or user the middle heights are working. Seems to have unstuck whatever was going on.
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Post by KeithL on Nov 17, 2022 15:45:55 GMT -5
I've always assumed that the Oppo 203 and 205 were identical other than the obvious differences... However it's possible that they act differently under some circumstances... Also, rew452 said he unplugged the Oppo.... but I wonder if he did a factory reset on it... I forget the details but, as I recall, the Oppo has several settings that can configure it to output specific formats with certain types of source signals. Since the audio output options are different on the Oppo 203 and Oppo 205 these may be different... or their firmware may offer slightly different options. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that an Oppo may act differently with our new firmware... I also wouldn't rule out the possibility that it might affect the Oppo 203 and Oppo 205 a tiny bit differently... I think it probably makes sense to reset the Oppo... just in case any settings in its configuration act differently (and oddly) with our new firmware. It now looks like I have one more casualty Oppo UDP205 plays Dolby Vision ok, Sound is stuck PCM 2.0! It work just fine on firmware 2.5 but on 3.1 sound never changes from PCM 2.0 I even unplugged AC to Oppo to see if it would make a difference. Also hearing clicks on audio I just tried with my Oppo 203 which played Dolby TrueHD and DTS MA just fine. Could the 205 be different and I wonder if others are seeing this. |
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Post by doc1963 on Nov 17, 2022 15:49:22 GMT -5
I've always assumed that the Oppo 203 and 205 were identical other than the obvious differences... However it's possible that they act differently under some circumstances... Also, rew452 said he unplugged the Oppo.... but I wonder if he did a factory reset on it... I forget the details but, as I recall, the Oppo has several settings that can configure it to output specific formats with certain types of source signals. Since the audio output options are different on the Oppo 203 and Oppo 205 these may be different... or their firmware may offer slightly different options. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that an Oppo may act differently with our new firmware... I also wouldn't rule out the possibility that it might affect the Oppo 203 and Oppo 205 a tiny bit differently... I think it probably makes sense to reset the Oppo... just in case any settings in its configuration act differently (and oddly) with our new firmware. I just tried with my Oppo 203 which played Dolby TrueHD and DTS MA just fine. Could the 205 be different and I wonder if others are seeing this. There is a setting in the Oppo's which should be looked at... Make sure " Secondary Audio" is turned OFF. |
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Post by rew452 on Nov 17, 2022 16:46:00 GMT -5
Update
First, sorry folks, my Oppo is a UDP203 not UDP205; fat fingers I guess. Anyway I finally got it to work this is what I did.
1. Removed UHD disc and put in a Bluray disc,
2. Turned off XMC-2 with the power switch, waited a couple of minutes
3. Powered XMC-2 back on. Oppo then played audio as it did with the old firmware.
I did not reset Oppo since settings have been quirky in the past. Secondary Audio has always been Off.
Will continue to test, fingers crossed.
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Post by thezone on Nov 17, 2022 16:51:06 GMT -5
- OSD with Dolby Vision is still yellow
I'm pretty confident this is the NVShield not matching frame rates correctly, so the information sent to the XMC is out of whack. I had this issue pre-FW3.1 with the NVS and I switched to ATV4K and never had the problem again. |
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Post by xeno on Nov 17, 2022 17:09:50 GMT -5
VRO mode still locks everything up for me. Other than that, the clicks are gone, switching is faster, and I don't have the "Updating Fonts" issue others are having. I'll run a few movies and some 2 channel through it this weekend. So far it's a nice improvement!
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Post by Lsc on Nov 17, 2022 17:24:12 GMT -5
I agree on turning off “input change” in HDMI/CEC setting especially as i use Logitech Harmony. The auto change sometimes sticks at HDMI ARC or the last HDMI input and seems to cause a slight issue.
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Post by aswiss on Nov 17, 2022 17:24:41 GMT -5
My first Impression:FW Installation worked, Restore of Backup worked, all what worked before is still, Pop/Click Sounds when switching TV Channels are gone. Have not tested everything. Good Job. But: - OSD with Dolby Vision is still yellow
- SA-CD Issue with click/pop sound when stopping/ejecting the disc.
- The wait time until sound switching feels long (I know, we can't have everything)
- Please fix the Updating Fonts from Reboot - no need to have this every time.
- Other things to be found
DIRAC will re-measure and then see. Currently not used.
Hi Which sa-cd player u r using? Connection method? XLR? HDMI? RCA? Digital? Thanks oppo203 - HDMI - Multi channel SACD must be HDMI Bitstream out.
It works, but there is that click noise each time you stop it.
Its a bit better than before, at list there is no clock noise when I start. Did only checked with some discs.
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Post by aswiss on Nov 17, 2022 17:25:59 GMT -5
- OSD with Dolby Vision is still yellow
I'm pretty confident this is the NVShield not matching frame rates correctly, so the information sent to the XMC is out of whack. I had this issue pre-FW3.1 with the NVS and I switched to ATV4K and never had the problem again. Possible - but I'm no ATV User - so doesn't help me.
And just saying - I don't care because I don't have to play around in the menu alltime.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Nov 17, 2022 17:31:02 GMT -5
VRO mode still locks everything up for me. I’m sorry if you’ve elaborated on this before, but does the processor actually ’lock up’ so you have to power it off? If you’ve posted about it can you point me to it? |
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Post by micro98 on Nov 17, 2022 18:22:49 GMT -5
Showing the font bug
Firmware Version 3.1 22/11/14
FP Version 2.11 21/05/11
Kernel Version 1.2 18/02/08
HDMI Version 8.1 20/09/28
DSPO Version 3.1 22/11/14
DSP1 Version 3.1 22/11/14
USB Version 3.1 22/11/14
Second unit
Not showin the updating font bug
Firmware Version 3.1 22/11/14
FP Version 2.11 21/05/11
Kernel Version 1.2 18/02/08
HDMI Version 12.25 22/10/1
DSPO Version 3.1 22/11/14
DSP1 Version 3.1 22/11/14
USB Version 3.1 22/11/14
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Post by rbk123 on Nov 17, 2022 18:46:54 GMT -5
Just as a data counterpoint, I’ve used an 8 meter Ruipro 4K hybrid fiber optic cable for a few years on both my RMC-1L as well as my Marantz AV8805. I’ve never experienced any problems whatsoever from this cable and it will pass anything that I throw at it… It never flinches. No power inserter has ever been required. While what was said to you isn’t necessarily inaccurate, it’s also not necessarily accurate. There are plenty of FO cables that aren’t well designed, but Ruipro isn’t known to be one of those. Very much appreciate your response. I bought the cable in question, recommend by Emotiva, to remove any potential issue from the chain. I was suspicious that it could be a cable bandwidth related issue, but I deferred to Emotiva's advice to at least take this off the table as a culprit. I have your issue with my XMC-2 and my Epson 4000 which is a similar 1080p projector as your 5020. I got this issue when I upgraded my XMC-1 to the -2. I doubt it's your cable but, assuming you haven't tried it yet, just move your RMC next to the projector (or it's probably easier to move the projector next to the RMC) and test with a few 4k short HDMI cables. If that doesn't work, have you tried just hooking up a 4k capable TV instead of the Epson for testing purposes? I would bet that would work and I'll explain what I think is happening. I have 2 4K capable sources - my HTPC and my Roku - both gave me the same error on my Epson as what you are getting (my BR player is BR only, not 4k BR's); my non-4k sources were fine. It appears that those devices negotiate a 4k connection with the XMC-2/RMC regardless of whether I had the HDMI set to 1.4 or 2, and regardless of whether I watched non-4k material on either device. The XMC/RMC then wants to pass that 4k connection to the Epson. When I had the XMC-1, they couldn't negotiate a 4k connection because I never upgraded it to the 4k HDMI board. I went into the Roku's settings and forced it to output 1080p and it worked. For the HTPC, I could not figure out how to force the Radeon card to 1080p, and believe me I tried. I then just downgraded the video card to a older 1080p only card I have and my problem was solved. I noticed all of the Bluray players you tested with were 4k capable, so I would try going into their settings and force them to 1080p only and then see. Or get a 1080p only BR player and see if that works (borrow from a friend). In theory, the 1.4 HDMI setting should solve your problem as that's what Emo told me would fix mine, but it didn't. I let them know my results, so they're aware but I imagine they're not doing any work on their 1.4 setting code for obvious reasons. You may still have to play the disconnect/reconnect/power cycle game on the various devices in your chain even after forcing your source to 1080p output only to get it to work, since that's due to other bugs, but it should eventually work. That's why I think if you borrowed a 4k capable TV and tried it in lieu of the Epson, just for troubleshooting purposes, it would work. |
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Post by JKCashin on Nov 17, 2022 19:35:51 GMT -5
I’m not 100% sure but it looks like HDR10+ might work with this update. My Apple TV is displaying this. I’ll test later with my Bluray Player. Edit: I can confirm HDR10+ now works. I tested this using the Spears & Munson UHD HRS Benchmark Blu-ray Disc. Dave. I was not aware it was broken. Was this a known issue? |
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Post by JKCashin on Nov 17, 2022 19:36:47 GMT -5
Far out, was looking so forward to this firmware in hopes to correct some CEC issues and as it come out my XMC-2 decides to no longer like life and quit on me. Does anyone have a Nvidia Shield and has the CEC volume control started working again after this update? What model shield? I have a 2017 (the round one) and CEC volume control has always worked on mine with my XMC-2 |
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Post by geebo on Nov 17, 2022 19:54:57 GMT -5
Showing the font bug Firmware Version 3.1 22/11/14 FP Version 2.11 21/05/11 Kernel Version 1.2 18/02/08 HDMI Version 8.1 20/09/28 DSPO Version 3.1 22/11/14 DSP1 Version 3.1 22/11/14 USB Version 3.1 22/11/14 Second unit Not showin the updating font bug Firmware Version 3.1 22/11/14 FP Version 2.11 21/05/11 Kernel Version 1.2 18/02/08 HDMI Version 12.25 22/10/1 DSPO Version 3.1 22/11/14 DSP1 Version 3.1 22/11/14 USB Version 3.1 22/11/14 Your first unit has the older HDMI board and the second unit has the newer HDMI board. That's normal with this FW. |
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Post by micro98 on Nov 17, 2022 20:06:50 GMT -5
Showing the font bug Firmware Version 3.1 22/11/14 FP Version 2.11 21/05/11 Kernel Version 1.2 18/02/08 HDMI Version 8.1 20/09/28 DSPO Version 3.1 22/11/14 DSP1 Version 3.1 22/11/14 USB Version 3.1 22/11/14 Second unit Not showin the updating font bug Firmware Version 3.1 22/11/14 FP Version 2.11 21/05/11 Kernel Version 1.2 18/02/08 HDMI Version 12.25 22/10/1 DSPO Version 3.1 22/11/14 DSP1 Version 3.1 22/11/14 USB Version 3.1 22/11/14 Your first unit has the older HDMI board and the second unit has the newer HDMI board. That's normal with this FW. Yep I know I was just saying that my one Rmc-1 is showing the loading Fonts on a cold boot and one is not. |
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Post by daev on Nov 17, 2022 20:09:03 GMT -5
Newish owner here. Firmware update from 2.5 to 3,1 went smoothly, Thumbs up! After about 8 hours of operation on the new 3.1 FW: - So far, no lockups or volume blasts on 3.1 FW. With 2.5, I experienced about two lockups a day, and had one "full volume" blast event. - The weird audio failure, the mangled screen fonts, and the goofy volume issues seem to be gone. - The configuration uX is noticeably smoother and less twitchy, a nice improvement. In particular, selecting a new input or codec gives immediate feedback, and the "pause to engage" happens after the uX response, a big usability improvement. UPDATE: After about 5 days of use: - The occurrence of pops and tics have greatly reduced, So far none have been worrisomely loud. - Switching codecs and HDMi inputs no longer cause system lockups or audio failures. - The sluggish volume response from the remote turned out to be the elderly IR repeater I was using was bandwidth limited. When replaced with a newer 38-56KHz unit, volume and IR control became much more reliable Observe I disabled CEC and I do not use ARC/eARC, as I do not have a TV. Projector only. Screen shot of the various FW loads  ![]() _daev |
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