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Post by gus4emo on Dec 27, 2022 18:45:59 GMT -5
Hi all, I'm not planning to buy anytime soon, but I want to have a good plan in case I decide to go forward, I have 300 CDs in my mega CD changer and I would like to maybe download them to a device that will sound as well as the CD player and use the device to stream music as well, any recommendations? Thanks in advance.
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Post by Zombie on Dec 27, 2022 20:24:56 GMT -5
I’m using a Sony HAP Z1-ES for just that purpose. Not cheap but really works and sounds great. I copied all my CD’s to it and still buy certain SACD’s as they get released. I’ve currently got about 9,100 songs copied to it. I mostly use it wirelessly through my HEOS devices. Works flawlessly without a hiccup. I’m very happy with it.
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Post by LuisV on Dec 27, 2022 21:17:29 GMT -5
Any NAS will do, rip your CDs via your favorite software and use Roon, JRiver or something similar to stream your music to your hearts content. My NAS runs various dockers, one is called of all things, Ripper. I open the CD tray, insert a disk, it rips it automatically to a share that is accessible to Roon, once complete, the tray pops open, rinse and repeat... when Roon finds the new tracks, I can start listening to the music anywhere within my home. I built my NAS 5 years ago, yes an optical drive was part of the build and I purchased a Roon lifetime subscription 4 years or so ago (Roon Core runs as a docker on my NAS) and thus far, zero regrets. Disk space is cheap these days, so don't skimp out on storage; I have a total of 54TB and have used 28TB thus far.
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 28, 2022 10:51:34 GMT -5
I’m using a Sony HAP Z1-ES for just that purpose. Not cheap but really works and sounds great. I copied all my CD’s to it and still buy certain SACD’s as they get released. I’ve currently got about 9,100 songs copied to it. I mostly use it wirelessly through my HEOS devices. Works flawlessly without a hiccup. I’m very happy with it. Yes, that one is expensive, I will keep it in mind, I would like to stream music with the same device... |
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 28, 2022 10:57:29 GMT -5
Any NAS will do, rip your CDs via your favorite software and use Roon, JRiver or something similar to stream your music to your hearts content. My NAS runs various dockers, one is called of all things, Ripper. I open the CD tray, insert a disk, it rips it automatically to a share that is accessible to Roon, once complete, the tray pops open, rinse and repeat... when Roon finds the new tracks, I can start listening to the music anywhere within my home. I built my NAS 5 years ago, yes an optical drive was part of the build and I purchased a Roon lifetime subscription 4 years or so ago (Roon Core runs as a docker on my NAS) and thus far, zero regrets. Disk space is cheap these days, so don't skimp out on storage; I have a total of 54TB and have used 28TB thus far. Any particular model you might recommend? |
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Post by marcl on Dec 28, 2022 11:26:53 GMT -5
Also consider for any option, how you will access your music ... i.e. find a particular track or album, create playlists, etc. Depending on how much music you have, the interfaces on some devices could be very awkward and tedious to use. For example, if a device displays the fist album in your collection and the rest are in alphabetical order ... do you really want to scroll through hundreds of albums to get to Vivaldi?
I haven't used Roon, but I do use JRiver Media Center and have found it very easy to organize and access my 21,000+ tracks from ripped CDs and downloaded high res files. I play music from my PC to the XMC-2 via HDMI and that method handles all formats as well as multichannel PCM and DSD files.
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Post by gsand on Dec 28, 2022 11:44:55 GMT -5
The Sony HAP Z1-ES now has a $500.00 discount at Amazon & Crutchfield. The Bluesound Vault may also be a option for you.
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Post by LuisV on Dec 28, 2022 12:50:00 GMT -5
Any NAS will do, rip your CDs via your favorite software and use Roon, JRiver or something similar to stream your music to your hearts content. My NAS runs various dockers, one is called of all things, Ripper. I open the CD tray, insert a disk, it rips it automatically to a share that is accessible to Roon, once complete, the tray pops open, rinse and repeat... when Roon finds the new tracks, I can start listening to the music anywhere within my home. I built my NAS 5 years ago, yes an optical drive was part of the build and I purchased a Roon lifetime subscription 4 years or so ago (Roon Core runs as a docker on my NAS) and thus far, zero regrets. Disk space is cheap these days, so don't skimp out on storage; I have a total of 54TB and have used 28TB thus far. Any particular model you might recommend? If you aren't inclined to build your own, I prefer Synology due to their OS and price point. Prior to building my own NAS, I had used Synology for close to 5 years; never had an issue with it. My reasoning for building my own, was purely out of flexibility... it uses a Ryzen 1800x (8 core AMD CPU), 32GBs of RAM with 1TB of SSD cache, 1 optical drive, dual 1GB NICs and an Nvidia P2000 GPU. I use Unraid for the OS, a Linux variant and it supports up to 32 drives (can be mismatched sizes); I have 11 drives in the array and 2 parity drives with 2 SSDs, so 15 drives in total (optical drives don't count within the 32 number). Unraid isn't, well, RAID... it fills up a drive and moves onto the next until it circles back to the 1st drive in the array... rinse and repeat. Dual Parity drives saves me if two drives in the array are lost... if I can't recover a drive, only the data on the failed drive is lost. With RAID, if you can't recover a drive, the entire RAID array could be lost. I prefer smaller drives (6TB or 8TB, or 10TB) due to cost and the relative amount of data that could be lost if dual parity doesn't save me. My photos are stored in iCloud as well as Google drive; my important media is replicated to two 10TB drives in a separate drive chassis connected to my PC. Anything that I can replicate, ripped music for instance, isn't backed up as I can recreate it. My NAS is on 24/7 and only rebooted if there is an update that requires a reboot. I run Roon as a docker on my NAS as well as several VMs. I prefer these Synology models, but it's obviously based on budget: amzn.to/3vjYBcGamzn.to/3PVXyt5amzn.to/3Vv6u9NHere's more info on Unraid - unraid.net/ |
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Post by donh50 on Dec 28, 2022 13:10:22 GMT -5
My Synology NAS died about a year ago, apparently due to a common failure mechanism, but I have not tried to repair it. The newer ones still gather top review ratings and do not have the issue mine did so I plan to get a new one... sometime.
In the meantime I have a WD My Cloud drive on my network and a basic external USB drive plugged into my router (it has a couple of USB ports for external storage). I rip CDs to my notebook using dBpoweramp (https://www.dbpoweramp.com/) and copy the rips to both networked drives so I have them in three places. Poor man's RAID. There are a variety of streaming options; for my main system I am using a SONOS Connect (now Port) because it was easy to set up and for others to use (plus I have several other SONOS speakers around the house). I use the Connect's digital output to my processor.
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Post by marcl on Dec 28, 2022 13:35:20 GMT -5
My Synology NAS died about a year ago, apparently due to a common failure mechanism, but I have not tried to repair it. The newer ones still gather top review ratings and do not have the issue mine did so I plan to get a new one... sometime. In the meantime I have a WD My Cloud drive on my network and a basic external USB drive plugged into my router (it has a couple of USB ports for external storage). I rip CDs to my notebook using dBpoweramp (https://www.dbpoweramp.com/) and copy the rips to both networked drives so I have them in three places. Poor man's RAID. There are a variety of streaming options; for my main system I am using a SONOS Connect (now Port) because it was easy to set up and for others to use (plus I have several other SONOS speakers around the house). I use the Connect's digital output to my processor. I've had mine for six years ... a 5-bay with 5-bay extension filled with WD Red drives ... and a 4-bay backup. What was the common failure mechanism? |
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Post by donh50 on Dec 28, 2022 16:04:26 GMT -5
My Synology NAS died about a year ago, apparently due to a common failure mechanism, but I have not tried to repair it. The newer ones still gather top review ratings and do not have the issue mine did so I plan to get a new one... sometime. In the meantime I have a WD My Cloud drive on my network and a basic external USB drive plugged into my router (it has a couple of USB ports for external storage). I rip CDs to my notebook using dBpoweramp (https://www.dbpoweramp.com/) and copy the rips to both networked drives so I have them in three places. Poor man's RAID. There are a variety of streaming options; for my main system I am using a SONOS Connect (now Port) because it was easy to set up and for others to use (plus I have several other SONOS speakers around the house). I use the Connect's digital output to my processor. I've had mine for six years ... a 5-bay with 5-bay extension filled with WD Red drives ... and a 4-bay backup. What was the common failure mechanism? Mine's a 4-bay DS415+; 5-bay allows more advanced RAID 5e (better performance) but I'm not sure Synology does that. I'd have to look up the failure mode again, it has actually been a couple of years now (time flies). It flashes the status light and no longer recognizes the drives. IIRC the fix is to add/replace a resistor. Mine is old enough I figured I'd just replace it, but too many other demands on time and money when I have a satisfactory backup scheme (for now). Sorry - Don Edit: Looks like the Atom processor inside fails, this seems like a resistor pullup (or down) was left out that is part of the power-on reset function. I suspect it is part of the FW load cycle. See e.g. www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkZ0249t7SI&ab_channel=NikolaiAkimov and community.synology.com/enu/forum/1/post/120548 |
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Post by marcl on Dec 28, 2022 16:23:50 GMT -5
I've had mine for six years ... a 5-bay with 5-bay extension filled with WD Red drives ... and a 4-bay backup. What was the common failure mechanism? Mine's a 4-bay DS415+; 5-bay allows more advanced RAID 5e (better performance) but I'm not sure Synology does that. I'd have to look up the failure mode again, it has actually been a couple of years now (time flies). It flashes the status light and no longer recognizes the drives. IIRC the fix is to add/replace a resistor. Mine is old enough I figured I'd just replace it, but too many other demands on time and money when I have a satisfactory backup scheme (for now). Sorry - Don Edit: Looks like the Atom processor inside fails, this seems like a resistor pullup (or down) was left out that is part of the power-on reset function. I suspect it is part of the FW load cycle. See e.g. www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkZ0249t7SI&ab_channel=NikolaiAkimov and community.synology.com/enu/forum/1/post/120548Okay. Mine is a DS1515+ with the extension, configured for Synology Hybrid RAID 2 ... 2-disk redundancy. But I guess if the unit fails and can't access the drives, and you need the data ... maybe it works if you move them to a new unit, or maybe you have to send them to Synology. That's why I have a full backup too. |
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 28, 2022 17:12:20 GMT -5
I would like to get something simple and a good quality...
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Post by DYohn on Dec 28, 2022 17:43:25 GMT -5
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Post by brubacca on Dec 28, 2022 19:20:29 GMT -5
300 CDs is really not a lot. Biggest question is how many places do you want to play your music? I've seen that Sony player above multiple places used for a really good price. Roon is quite expensive (as much as I love it) if you only want music at one place.
Bluesound is a decent playing system. The vault can even rip the CDs for you. Audiolab makes nice player.
So how many zones?
I can think of Bluesond Node or Vault, Audiolab 6000n, Denon DNP-800E....
Bluesound is probably the best entry level way to go that will sound good. Innuous Zen Mini... The Small Green Computer above is also a good solution. None of it is cheap especially if you include the ripper in the component
If you are into a little DIY, you can use a Raspberry Pi with Volumio to feed a DAC.
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Post by gus4emo on Dec 28, 2022 22:02:44 GMT -5
Also consider for any option, how you will access your music ... i.e. find a particular track or album, create playlists, etc. Depending on how much music you have, the interfaces on some devices could be very awkward and tedious to use. For example, if a device displays the fist album in your collection and the rest are in alphabetical order ... do you really want to scroll through hundreds of albums to get to Vivaldi? I haven't used Roon, but I do use JRiver Media Center and have found it very easy to organize and access my 21,000+ tracks from ripped CDs and downloaded high res files. I play music from my PC to the XMC-2 via HDMI and that method handles all formats as well as multichannel PCM and DSD files. I would like something to store (rip) all my CDs in it, then create different playlists, of course I have a CD recorder, I have made some CDs with the songs I want on them, I'm just trying to get good recommendations to make a good decision if I go the server route... |
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Post by Sayer on Dec 29, 2022 1:20:03 GMT -5
Either I am not understanding your question, or I am not understanding the responses you have received.
I use an Nvidia Shield Pro to stream both music and video services. It supports many music streaming services.
To get my personal music collection to work with it, I loaded up a USB thumb drive with tons of music, which I organized into folders on the drive. Then plug it into the Nvidia Shield Pro and use the free Kodi app to playback the music, create playlists, etc.
In your case, you would rip the CDs to your computer, organize them on a USB stick, plug it into the Nvidia Shield Pro and enjoy. The Nvidia Shield Pro is reasonably priced and the Kodi app is very good.
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Post by audiobill on Dec 29, 2022 8:25:40 GMT -5
Mac Mini
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Post by hemster on Dec 29, 2022 8:48:40 GMT -5
What about using any PC/laptop running vortexbox? |
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Post by KeithL on Dec 29, 2022 11:28:43 GMT -5
VortexBox ... now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time. Is VortexBox still around? (I never actually tried it but I always heard good things about it.) Personally I'm not a big fan of all-in-one boxes that are both CD rippers and servers. They all seem either overly complicated, or lacking in flexibility, or both. (Or they want to tag and organize my files using some sort of proprietary system that locks me in to them forever.) I personally find that dBPowerAmp is far and away the best software for ripping CDs. It's quick, I've found it to be quite reliable, and it has the ability to confirm rips with AccurateRIP. It also has some impressive options for organizing, naming, and tagging the resulting ripped files. And it's a regular program that runs on a computer. (It can also be set to automatically decode HDCDs to 24 bit PCM files.) (And it was also quite economical.) I can then copy the ripped files onto whatever server or computer I want. What about using any PC/laptop running vortexbox? |
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