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Post by geebo on May 27, 2023 18:33:03 GMT -5
Well my membership card arrived today, hope to get a chance to start using it this week, the comments made so far sound very helpful, thanks! … and these Atmos headphones are awesome (though my neck gets a little sore) … hey ttocs , does Steve have these? View AttachmentJust be happy you got the new smaller and lighter version of those cans.
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Post by ttocs on May 27, 2023 18:47:11 GMT -5
Well my membership card arrived today, hope to get a chance to start using it this week, the comments made so far sound very helpful, thanks! … but I’m going to have to read more about these fancy glasses that came with the disc, surprised you guys haven’t mentioned them? … and these Atmos headphones are awesome (though my neck gets a little sore) … hey ttocs , does Steve have these? The Filters ("3D" glasses) are used to look at a flashing pattern. The patterns that the filters are used for are Color and Tint. The filters are 1x, 2x, and when folded, 3x. I have to use the 3x for my Sony tv. As Topend pointed out, we can use the Down Arrow control for our players to get a popup about the current test which has a description and explanation about how to use the test. This is a very useful feature!! geebo beat me to the best comment about the "cans"! And no, Steve does not own anything that nice!
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Post by geebo on May 27, 2023 19:00:48 GMT -5
Well my membership card arrived today, hope to get a chance to start using it this week, the comments made so far sound very helpful, thanks! … but I’m going to have to read more about these fancy glasses that came with the disc, surprised you guys haven’t mentioned them? … and these Atmos headphones are awesome (though my neck gets a little sore) … hey ttocs , does Steve have these? The Filters ("3D" glasses) are used to look at a flashing pattern. The patterns that the filters are used for are Color and Tint. The filters are 1x, 2x, and when folded, 3x. I have to use the 3x for my Sony tv. As Topend pointed out, we can use the Down Arrow control for our players to get a popup about the current test which has a description and explanation about how to use the test. This is a very useful feature!! geebo beat me to the best comment about the "cans"! And no, Steve does not own anything that nice! I had to use filter strength #3 on my LG as well.
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Post by marcl on May 28, 2023 6:24:22 GMT -5
Well my membership card arrived today, hope to get a chance to start using it this week, the comments made so far sound very helpful, thanks! … but I’m going to have to read more about these fancy glasses that came with the disc, surprised you guys haven’t mentioned them? … and these Atmos headphones are awesome (though my neck gets a little sore) … hey ttocs , does Steve have these? The Filters ("3D" glasses) are used to look at a flashing pattern. The patterns that the filters are used for are Color and Tint. The filters are 1x, 2x, and when folded, 3x. I have to use the 3x for my Sony tv. As Topend pointed out, we can use the Down Arrow control for our players to get a popup about the current test which has a description and explanation about how to use the test. This is a very useful feature!! geebo beat me to the best comment about the "cans"! And no, Steve does not own anything that nice! Listening to S&M in one of the interview videos I think I remember them saying that screen is included along with the glasses because people want them ... but it's an irrelevant test with modern TV's. Can't remember the reason they gave.
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Post by cawgijoe on May 28, 2023 6:32:47 GMT -5
The Filters ("3D" glasses) are used to look at a flashing pattern. The patterns that the filters are used for are Color and Tint. The filters are 1x, 2x, and when folded, 3x. I have to use the 3x for my Sony tv. As Topend pointed out, we can use the Down Arrow control for our players to get a popup about the current test which has a description and explanation about how to use the test. This is a very useful feature!! geebo beat me to the best comment about the "cans"! And no, Steve does not own anything that nice! Listening to S&M in one of the interview videos I think I remember them saying that screen is included along with the glasses because people want them ... but it's an irrelevant test with modern TV's. Can't remember the reason they gave. I remember on the first version that did not include the blue filters, them saying that they didn’t have the “correct” blue color at the time to be able to accurately test. Not sure about current sets…
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Post by marcl on May 28, 2023 9:51:24 GMT -5
Listening to S&M in one of the interview videos I think I remember them saying that screen is included along with the glasses because people want them ... but it's an irrelevant test with modern TV's. Can't remember the reason they gave. I remember on the first version that did not include the blue filters, them saying that they didn’t have the “correct” blue color at the time to be able to accurately test. Not sure about current sets… I found the discussion ... 1:03 (that's one hour three minutes) into the discussion. They bought hundreds of dollars worth of filters trying to find one that worked. Might be useful on a CRT, they say. www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYKMqjv1xQ4
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Post by marcl on May 28, 2023 11:11:10 GMT -5
Spears' discussion and demo of the audio test features starts at 1:47
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 28, 2023 12:08:58 GMT -5
Well my membership card arrived today, hope to get a chance to start using it this week, the comments made so far sound very helpful, thanks! … and these Atmos headphones are awesome (though my neck gets a little sore) … hey ttocs , does Steve have these? View AttachmentJust be happy you got the new smaller and lighter version of those cans. It figures you had the 1.0 … and got the girl!
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Post by marcl on May 29, 2023 7:07:25 GMT -5
Near the end of the looong interview video someone asked what disc player and TV Spears uses or recommends. All along it was clear that he's been using LG TV's for a long time. As for disc players the Panasonic DP-UB9000P1K was his immediate choice for picture quality. Of course someone asked "over the OPPO?" and he quickly said "Dolby Vision is broken in the OPPO". Whatever the issue was, he said if they had stayed in the business they would have fixed it, but they didn't. Of course you can let the Dolby Vision be done in the TV. He also commented that the OPPO did not deserve it's cult-like following, or words to that effect.
So I got to thinking ... seeing as OPPO 205's are listed for sale at $2k-3K and you can buy the UB9000P1K for $1k. But in the middle of the night (when this stuff is wont to happen) I remembered ... SACD and DVD-A .... alas
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Post by geebo on May 29, 2023 8:47:26 GMT -5
Near the end of the looong interview video someone asked what disc player and TV Spears uses or recommends. All along it was clear that he's been using LG TV's for a long time. As for disc players the Panasonic DP-UB9000P1K was his immediate choice for picture quality. Of course someone asked "over the OPPO?" and he quickly said "Dolby Vision is broken in the OPPO". Whatever the issue was, he said if they had stayed in the business they would have fixed it, but they didn't. Of course you can let the Dolby Vision be done in the TV. He also commented that the OPPO did not deserve it's cult-like following, or words to that effect. So I got to thinking ... seeing as OPPO 205's are listed for sale at $2k-3K and you can buy the UB9000P1K for $1k. But in the middle of the night (when this stuff is wont to happen) I remembered ... SACD and DVD-A .... alas Here is a comparison between player led and TV led Dolby Vision processing using an Oppo 203 and a Sony X900H.
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Post by geebo on May 29, 2023 9:49:57 GMT -5
I had my Oppo 203 set to Auto and I don't know how to tell which method was being used so I switched it to TV led.
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 29, 2023 10:33:11 GMT -5
I had my Oppo 203 set to Auto and I don't know how to tell which method was being used so I switched it to TV led. My older Sony 900F only supports TV-Led DV, and I’ve only set my 203 to that, but I enjoyed the comparison — though from what I could see watching the video on my iPad, the TV-led seemed to have more dynamic range, and the player-led more detail — but I’ll trust Vincent.
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 31, 2023 12:08:45 GMT -5
Finally sitting down with the manual, and though the print is large enough and clear, I’ve gotten used to reading on my iPad. Didn’t see this already posted, this page has some pdf downloads, including the UHD Benchmark: Spears & Munsil Downloads
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Post by cawgijoe on May 31, 2023 12:21:31 GMT -5
Ordered mine last night. Looking forward to playing with it.
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Post by modicen on Jun 4, 2023 20:37:14 GMT -5
So what do you guys think of the disk so far? Is it worth in it? I’m thinking of picking it up if it’s beneficial.
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Post by cawgijoe on Jun 4, 2023 21:52:29 GMT -5
So what do you guys think of the disk so far? Is it worth in it? I’m thinking of picking it up if it’s beneficial. I received mine Friday. Weekend was spent on yard work and painting the garage walls unfortunately. Hope to use it tomorrow after work.
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Post by Topend on Jun 5, 2023 0:54:28 GMT -5
So what do you guys think of the disk so far? Is it worth in it? I’m thinking of picking it up if it’s beneficial. If you already have the original S & M UHD version then it’s probably not worth it. The video tests are good but I was disappointed in the audio tests. Dave.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 13, 2023 19:04:49 GMT -5
Getting time to play with this has been hard, spring skiing, spring mowing, spring fever, spring in the air, spring in your step, and lots of projects, has kept me away rom the system, except for time at night to watch a show or movie. Hi … I’m Bruce and I need more time to tinker! I did start reading the setup your equipment section, and began to change some settings on my Oppo and Sony (mostly brightness on the Sony, but I need to do it at night). Since I know at least a couple have the 203, and after reading I did change a couple things, do these settings look similar to yours? If not, what am I missing? (I don’t think I made changes elsewhere).
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Post by geebo on Jun 13, 2023 19:22:00 GMT -5
Getting time to play with this has been hard, spring skiing, spring mowing, spring fever, spring in the air, spring in your step, and lots of projects, has kept me away rom the system, except for time at night to watch a show or movie. Hi … I’m Bruce and I need more time to tinker! I did start reading the setup your equipment section, and began to change some settings on my Oppo and Sony (mostly brightness on the Sony, but I need to do it at night). Since I know at least a couple have the 203, and after reading I did change a couple things, do these settings look similar to yours? If not, what am I missing? (I don’t think I made changes elsewhere). View AttachmentI have Output Resolution and Color Depth both set to Auto. Aspect Ration is set to 16:9/Auto. I doubt any of these will show any difference.
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Post by AudioHTIT on Jun 13, 2023 21:29:23 GMT -5
Getting time to play with this has been hard, spring skiing, spring mowing, spring fever, spring in the air, spring in your step, and lots of projects, has kept me away rom the system, except for time at night to watch a show or movie. Hi … I’m Bruce and I need more time to tinker! I did start reading the setup your equipment section, and began to change some settings on my Oppo and Sony (mostly brightness on the Sony, but I need to do it at night). Since I know at least a couple have the 203, and after reading I did change a couple things, do these settings look similar to yours? If not, what am I missing? (I don’t think I made changes elsewhere). View AttachmentI have Output Resolution and Color Depth both set to Auto. Aspect Ration is set to 16:9/Auto. I doubt any of these will show any difference. I had those settings too, but saw the in Basic Player Settings it recommended Source Direct if your player has it, and the 10-bit 4:2:2, which I think you confirm during the tests. But auto May handle all of that.
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