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Nov 10, 2023 18:45:37 GMT -5 Boomzilla said:

OK PaulBe - I’m‘be GOT to disagree with at least one of your choices - IMHO, “The Book of Eli” is one of the lamest shows I’ve ever wasted the time watching. Superhero Eli crosses the country with the Bible memorized. Along the way, he “rescues” Mila Kunis, who becomes a “Christian Ninja,” and wanders about being “the sword of the Lord.”

Yes, that REALLY IS the plot, and it REALLY IS that lame. What a waste of talent!

I'm sorry. I thought the title of the thread is "Movies I've enjoyed in my time (feel free to add yours!)"

I added mine.

From A-H. I have more from I-Z.

Do I need to consult you before I add 'movies I've enjoyed'? Or, is your invitation made so you can insult other people's choices?

Are you disagreeing that I enjoyed 'The Book of Eli'?

When I get to M, I'll be adding 'My Dinner With Andre'.

Perhaps a thread title change is in order.

Obviously you misinterpreted the title of the thread. When it says, "I've enjoyed..." that is referring only to the OP. And when you are invited to feel free to add yours, that means adding any that the OP enjoyed that he may have overlooked (so you need to run each movie past him before posting).

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I'm sorry. I thought the title of the thread is "Movies I've enjoyed in my time (feel free to add yours!)"

I added mine.

From A-H. I have more from I-Z.

Do I need to consult you before I add 'movies I've enjoyed'? Or, is your invitation made so you can insult other people's choices?

Are you disagreeing that I enjoyed 'The Book of Eli'?

When I get to M, I'll be adding 'My Dinner With Andre'.

Perhaps a thread title change is in order.

I apologize, PaulBe - I didn't intend to offend you at all. It's ok if we disagree, and you're welcome to criticize any or all of my picks too. It would be a poor world if we all agreed, and the fact that I enjoyed (or failed to) a show that you hated (or loved) is to be expected. I'm sure that at least some of my "enjoys" were offensive (perhaps highly offensive) to other viewers. I apologize for that, but don't see much option. So, ultimately, I'm asking for the Lounge to feel free to criticize (and to accept criticism without offense).

I'm not a film guru, and my opinion and a buck will get you a cup of McCoffee (at least, with the senior discount). So please don't take offense at any opinions I post - they aren't personal.

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Nov 10, 2023 21:47:52 GMT -5 Boomzilla said:

I'm sorry. I thought the title of the thread is "Movies I've enjoyed in my time (feel free to add yours!)"

I added mine.

From A-H. I have more from I-Z.

Do I need to consult you before I add 'movies I've enjoyed'? Or, is your invitation made so you can insult other people's choices?

Are you disagreeing that I enjoyed 'The Book of Eli'?

When I get to M, I'll be adding 'My Dinner With Andre'.

Perhaps a thread title change is in order.

I apologize, PaulBe - I didn't intend to offend you at all. It's ok if we disagree, and you're welcome to criticize any or all of my picks too. It would be a poor world if we all agreed, and the fact that I enjoyed (or failed to) a show that you hated (or loved) is to be expected. I'm sure that at least some of my "enjoys" were offensive (perhaps highly offensive) to other viewers. I apologize for that, but don't see much option. So, ultimately, I'm asking for the Lounge to feel free to criticize (and to accept criticism without offense).

I'm not a film guru, and my opinion and a buck will get you a cup of McCoffee (at least, with the senior discount). So please don't take offense at any opinions I post - they aren't personal.

It is ok if we disagree. No apology necessary. I usually don’t care about other people’s picks for anything that involves simple taste. Some of my own tastes change from year to year; food, art, music, film, etc. I surprise myself with some of the changes I make as I get older. Differences make people interesting. On the other hand, I do have strong opinions. At my age and sometimes curmudgeonly disposition, I’m caricature ready.

I recognize many of your film picks and like them. I own more than a few. You also have many on your list that I don’t know. Seeing what others view, that is new to me, may peak my interest to discover a new title. If I know and don’t like a title, or have no interest, I just pass – I may like it next year.

I am more interested in sharing and discovery than critique. I will post titles I currently like. When you critique, I won’t take it personally. I like film almost as much as music. On the technical side, I care more about sound than video quality.

I keep a list of films to find at a decent price. Still waiting for a Blu-ray copy of The Stunt Man that doesn’t cost an arm and leg.

Perhaps we will find a film where we can take sides in a discussion. Or better yet, just discuss a film that affected us – how and why.

Side question – What does it mean to be ‘tagged’, and how did you select that? I plead ignorance.

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Nov 10, 2023 21:00:43 GMT -5 monkumonku said:

I'm sorry. I thought the title of the thread is "Movies I've enjoyed in my time (feel free to add yours!)"

I added mine.

From A-H. I have more from I-Z.

Do I need to consult you before I add 'movies I've enjoyed'? Or, is your invitation made so you can insult other people's choices?

Are you disagreeing that I enjoyed 'The Book of Eli'?

When I get to M, I'll be adding 'My Dinner With Andre'.

Perhaps a thread title change is in order.

Obviously you misinterpreted the title of the thread. When it says, "I've enjoyed..." that is referring only to the OP. And when you are invited to feel free to add yours, that means adding any that the OP enjoyed that he may have overlooked (so you need to run each movie past him before posting).

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It is ok if we disagree. No apology necessary. I usually don’t care about other people’s picks for anything that involves simple taste. Some of my own tastes change from year to year; food, art, music, film, etc. I surprise myself with some of the changes I make as I get older. Differences make people interesting. On the other hand, I do have strong opinions. At my age and sometimes curmudgeonly disposition, I’m caricature ready.

You've reached a state of maturity. Many never do. Congratulations!

I recognize many of your film picks and like them. I own more than a few. You also have many on your list that I don’t know. Seeing what others view, that is new to me, may peak my interest to discover a new title. If I know and don’t like a title, or have no interest, I just pass – I may like it next year.

I agree - I also hope to find some new, good movies from others' lists.

I am more interested in sharing and discovery than critique. I will post titles I currently like. When you critique, I won’t take it personally. I like film almost as much as music. On the technical side, I care more about sound than video quality...

I agree that I enjoy most films' soundtracks more than their video resolution. But that said, the rare movie with exceptional cinematography really catches my attention.

Perhaps we will find a film where we can take sides in a discussion. Or better yet, just discuss a film that affected us – how and why.

Done - see below.

Side question – What does it mean to be ‘tagged’, and how did you select that? I plead ignorance.

Tags are used as a simple way to identify a specific member you are talking about or to create a link to a member's profile. Tagging works by placing an @ before the person's username.

WARNING - SPOILERS AHEAD

The film "Sicario" from 2015 has affected me. There are several reasons, but the most significant is the plot. This is a movie that hides itself until the end. The movie is told from the perspective of an FBI agent, Kate. The viewers, however, quickly realize that Kate is getting the mushroom treatment (kept in the dark and fed a diet of sewage). Since Kate is continually finding out new things throughout the movie, so are we (the audience). The movie poses significant ethical and moral questions. Who is justified in their actions? Who are the "good guys," and who are the "bad guys?" It isn't immediately obvious.

Unusually, this movie is spectacular in both its soundtrack and in its haunting cinematography. The creativity of the aerial shots speaks to me about the illusion of "borders." The soldiers moving down into darkness (with a storm on the horizon) before entering the drug-runners' tunnels holds both figurative and literal meanings. I'm shocked that this film didn't win a SLEW of Oscars.

The film is also interesting in terms of what was implied as opposed to shown. "Alejandro" is being guided by satellite observation to his earphone radio about how to intercept Manual Diaz's car. He is watched via thermal camera (from a drone or a satellite) as he enters the drug jefe's house. Although not shown, it is implied that the CIA isn't assisting Alejandro for benign reasons. Should Alejandro NOT have reported by radio that his assassination of the drug lord was successful, the CIA would have turned the jefe's house, his family, his servants, and any bystanders into a big hole in the ground. After which, the CIA would have found a way to blame the entire incident on a rival drug cartel.

Finally, I find quite a bit of reality about how the drug trade works. Many living in Mexico and South America are forced to live with drug cartels instead of governments. Is it any surprise that they're willing to risk their lives to get to "El Norte?" Want to improve conditions for all those innocent people (and stop the flow of illegal immigration)? Quit using illegal drugs - yeah, YOU. it's your money that makes the drug cartels viable.

So, I recommend the movie "Sicario," and would love to discuss it further here with anyone interested.

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Nov 11, 2023 9:32:18 GMT -5 Boomzilla said:

It is ok if we disagree. No apology necessary. I usually don’t care about other people’s picks for anything that involves simple taste. Some of my own tastes change from year to year; food, art, music, film, etc. I surprise myself with some of the changes I make as I get older. Differences make people interesting. On the other hand, I do have strong opinions. At my age and sometimes curmudgeonly disposition, I’m caricature ready.

You've reached a state of maturity. Many never do. Congratulations!

I recognize many of your film picks and like them. I own more than a few. You also have many on your list that I don’t know. Seeing what others view, that is new to me, may peak my interest to discover a new title. If I know and don’t like a title, or have no interest, I just pass – I may like it next year.

I agree - I also hope to find some new, good movies from others' lists.

I am more interested in sharing and discovery than critique. I will post titles I currently like. When you critique, I won’t take it personally. I like film almost as much as music. On the technical side, I care more about sound than video quality...

I agree that I enjoy most films' soundtracks more than their video resolution. But that said, the rare movie with exceptional cinematography really catches my attention.

Perhaps we will find a film where we can take sides in a discussion. Or better yet, just discuss a film that affected us – how and why.

Done - see below.

Side question – What does it mean to be ‘tagged’, and how did you select that? I plead ignorance.

Tags are used as a simple way to identify a specific member you are talking about or to create a link to a member's profile. Tagging works by placing an @ before the person's username.

WARNING - SPOILERS AHEAD

The film "Sicario" from 2015 has affected me. There are several reasons, but the most significant is the plot. This is a movie that hides itself until the end. The movie is told from the perspective of an FBI agent, Kate. The viewers, however, quickly realize that Kate is getting the mushroom treatment (kept in the dark and fed a diet of sewage). Since Kate is continually finding out new things throughout the movie, so are we (the audience). The movie poses significant ethical and moral questions. Who is justified in their actions? Who are the "good guys," and who are the "bad guys?" It isn't immediately obvious.

Unusually, this movie is spectacular in both its soundtrack and in its haunting cinematography. The creativity of the aerial shots speaks to me about the illusion of "borders." The soldiers moving down into darkness (with a storm on the horizon) before entering the drug-runners' tunnels holds both figurative and literal meanings. I'm shocked that this film didn't win a SLEW of Oscars.

The film is also interesting in terms of what was implied as opposed to shown. "Alejandro" is being guided by satellite observation to his earphone radio about how to intercept Manual Diaz's car. He is watched via thermal camera (from a drone or a satellite) as he enters the drug jefe's house. Although not shown, it is implied that the CIA isn't assisting Alejandro for benign reasons. Should Alejandro NOT have reported by radio that his assassination of the drug lord was successful, the CIA would have turned the jefe's house, his family, his servants, and any bystanders into a big hole in the ground. After which, the CIA would have found a way to blame the entire incident on a rival drug cartel.

Finally, I find quite a bit of reality about how the drug trade works. Many living in Mexico and South America are forced to live with drug cartels instead of governments. Is it any surprise that they're willing to risk their lives to get to "El Norte?" Want to improve conditions for all those innocent people (and stop the flow of illegal immigration)? Quit using illegal drugs - yeah, YOU. it's your money that makes the drug cartels viable.

So, I recommend the movie "Sicario," and would love to discuss it further here with anyone interested.

Boomzilla

Exceptional cinematography catches my eyes too. I just don’t focus (pun intended) on small differences in color, detail, or dynamic range. MY eyes and mind adjust to small differences. Picture size and choices in lighting have more impact than other visual parameters; Coming from a guy who shaded cameras as part of his profession.

I still don’t get the tagging thing. I did a ‘find’ on this page for the @ sign and see it only in your current post. I can’t find any reference to it at this site. I still plead ignorance.

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Sicario –

Good choice for discussion. This is a big one.

The first thing to remember is that Sicario is a Hollywood movie. The themes are very important, but, like the news – ‘All of it is made up. Some of it is true’. Film is a powerful propaganda tool to mold thought and belief.

Sicario poses a Potemkin Village with all the trappings of false moral and ethical friction. Think “Oh look! Squirrel!”. Sicario also presents real moral and ethical friction. Any viewing could create a little temporary PTSD in the viewer – THAT is intended. The viewer becomes traumatized and blinded by the message and emotional overload. The main traffickers of people, drugs, money, sex, etc., are in the halls of Washington DC government. The real Pandemic is the over 100,000 fentanyl deaths every year, plus the other deaths and lives destroyed in the quest for more money derived through various IC’s – Industrial Complexes. “We Have Owners” – Think George Carlin.

Sicario needs to be viewed with a set of sunglasses from the movie ‘They Live’. Too bad John Carpenter wasn’t part of the production of Sicario.

Kate’s naiveté is refreshing and disturbing; considering she is presented as an FBI agent – remember, this is a Hollywood movie. The presented sophistication of Kate’s handlers is naïve and disturbing. Everything in ‘Intelligence’ is compartmentalized.

In reality, there is no intent to improve the lives of innocent people. The masses are fodder to grow and funnel money. There is no Right or Left Wing. No real moral and ethical friction at Top Levels of Power. No Left vs Right. Left Wing + Right Wing = The Same Vulture. Washington DC is a conglomerate of criminal organizations. The heart of Hollywood is in Washington DC. Sicario IS "Look! Squirrel!"

What I have written intends no absolution from individual responsibility. Even a slave is responsible for his choices. But, PTB WILL be held more accountable. Woe to them. Woe, Woe, Woe.

Sicario is a Very Good Movie that needs to be seen with fully opened eyes. I recommend it. Just stand or sit firmly on solid ground while viewing. Think outside the 'box'.

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Exceptional cinematography catches my eyes too. I just don’t focus (pun intended) on small differences in color, detail, or dynamic range. MY eyes and mind adjust to small differences. Picture size and choices in lighting have more impact than other visual parameters; Coming from a guy who shaded cameras as part of his profession.

You'll notice the cinematography on Sicario - really.

I still don’t get the tagging thing. I did a ‘find’ on this page for the @ sign and see it only in your current post. I can’t find any reference to it at this site. I still plead ignorance.

I just Googled it...

Sicario – Good choice for discussion. This is a big one.

The first thing to remember is that Sicario is a Hollywood movie. The themes are very important, but, like the news – ‘All of it is made up. Some of it is true’. Film is a powerful propaganda tool to mold thought and belief.

What you say is absolutely true. Even "documentary" films are often told with a slant. For that matter, even the news is considered by many people to be "fake," and those people gravitate to a "news provider" that echoes their personal beliefs. We've seen the damage done to civil society by those whose "facts" actually aren't. With movies, as with news, the only good way to discern fact from propaganda is to deliberately watch as many different points of view as possible and then to balance your opinion on the most credible scenarios.

Sicario poses a Potemkin Village with all the trappings of false moral and ethical friction. Think “Oh look! Squirrel!”. Sicario also presents real moral and ethical friction. Any viewing could create a little temporary PTSD in the viewer – THAT is intended. The viewer becomes traumatized and blinded by the message and emotional overload. The main traffickers of people, drugs, money, sex, etc., are in the halls of Washington DC government. The real Pandemic is the over 100,000 fentanyl deaths every year, plus the other deaths and lives destroyed in the quest for more money derived through various IC’s – Industrial Complexes. “We Have Owners” – Think George Carlin... Sicario needs to be viewed with a set of sunglasses from the movie ‘They Live’. Too bad John Carpenter wasn’t part of the production of Sicario...

"The main traffickers of..."evil"...are in Washington." Really? Could the US Government really eliminate Fentanyl from our society if they "really wanted to?" I doubt it. Could the US Government really eliminate drug cartel violence if they "really wanted to?" I doubt it. Can the US Government really prevent illegal immigration without addressing its root causes? I doubt it. I think you're giving significantly too much (imagined) power to our elected representatives. Matt in the Sicario movie sums it up for Kate: "So long as 20% of our population wants to smoke and snort that s**t, the best we can hope for is (...partial...) control."

Kate’s naiveté is refreshing and disturbing; considering she is presented as an FBI agent – remember, this is a Hollywood movie. The presented sophistication of Kate’s handlers is naïve and disturbing. Everything in ‘Intelligence’ is compartmentalized.

I don't find Kate particularly naïve. She's been trained to build cases "by the book," and her training leaves her a fish out of water in the scenarios that she's suddenly asked to confront. I don't know enough about actual intelligence agencies to comment on the "sophistication" of Kate's handlers. I have, however, known intelligence agency personnel who have operated in foreign conflicts, and they assure me that the "cowboy personality" is not at all unusual.

In reality, there is no intent to improve the lives of innocent people. The masses are fodder to grow and funnel money. There is no Right or Left Wing. No real moral and ethical friction at Top Levels of Power. No Left vs Right. Left Wing + Right Wing = The Same Vulture. Washington DC is a conglomerate of criminal organizations. The heart of Hollywood is in Washington DC. Sicario IS "Look! Squirrel!"...What I have written intends no absolution from individual responsibility. Even a slave is responsible for his choices. But, PTB WILL be held more accountable. Woe to them. Woe, Woe, Woe...Sicario is a Very Good Movie that needs to be seen with fully opened eyes. I recommend it. Just stand or sit firmly on solid ground while viewing. Think outside the 'box'.

Washington DC is about holding on to POWER. All else stems from that. Individual political parties exist to consolidate power to themselves. I don't think we can solve those issues here. But I agree with you that Sicario is a very good movie. Each viewer will need to decide for themselves how accurate the show may be when compared to real life.

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Nov 11, 2023 13:49:35 GMT -5 Boomzilla said:

Exceptional cinematography catches my eyes too. I just don’t focus (pun intended) on small differences in color, detail, or dynamic range. MY eyes and mind adjust to small differences. Picture size and choices in lighting have more impact than other visual parameters; Coming from a guy who shaded cameras as part of his profession.

You'll notice the cinematography on Sicario - really.

I still don’t get the tagging thing. I did a ‘find’ on this page for the @ sign and see it only in your current post. I can’t find any reference to it at this site. I still plead ignorance.

I just Googled it...

Sicario – Good choice for discussion. This is a big one.

The first thing to remember is that Sicario is a Hollywood movie. The themes are very important, but, like the news – ‘All of it is made up. Some of it is true’. Film is a powerful propaganda tool to mold thought and belief.

What you say is absolutely true. Even "documentary" films are often told with a slant. For that matter, even the news is considered by many people to be "fake," and those people gravitate to a "news provider" that echoes their personal beliefs. We've seen the damage done to civil society by those whose "facts" actually aren't. With movies, as with news, the only good way to discern fact from propaganda is to deliberately watch as many different points of view as possible and then to balance your opinion on the most credible scenarios.

Sicario poses a Potemkin Village with all the trappings of false moral and ethical friction. Think “Oh look! Squirrel!”. Sicario also presents real moral and ethical friction. Any viewing could create a little temporary PTSD in the viewer – THAT is intended. The viewer becomes traumatized and blinded by the message and emotional overload. The main traffickers of people, drugs, money, sex, etc., are in the halls of Washington DC government. The real Pandemic is the over 100,000 fentanyl deaths every year, plus the other deaths and lives destroyed in the quest for more money derived through various IC’s – Industrial Complexes. “We Have Owners” – Think George Carlin... Sicario needs to be viewed with a set of sunglasses from the movie ‘They Live’. Too bad John Carpenter wasn’t part of the production of Sicario...

"The main traffickers of..."evil"...are in Washington." Really? Could the US Government really eliminate Fentanyl from our society if they "really wanted to?" I doubt it. Could the US Government really eliminate drug cartel violence if they "really wanted to?" I doubt it. Can the US Government really prevent illegal immigration without addressing its root causes? I doubt it. I think you're giving significantly too much (imagined) power to our elected representatives. Matt in the Sicario movie sums it up for Kate: "So long as 20% of our population wants to smoke and snort that s**t, the best we can hope for is (...partial...) control."

Kate’s naiveté is refreshing and disturbing; considering she is presented as an FBI agent – remember, this is a Hollywood movie. The presented sophistication of Kate’s handlers is naïve and disturbing. Everything in ‘Intelligence’ is compartmentalized.

I don't find Kate particularly naïve. She's been trained to build cases "by the book," and her training leaves her a fish out of water in the scenarios that she's suddenly asked to confront. I don't know enough about actual intelligence agencies to comment on the "sophistication" of Kate's handlers. I have, however, known intelligence agency personnel who have operated in foreign conflicts, and they assure me that the "cowboy personality" is not at all unusual.