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Post by BillBauman on Jun 16, 2011 15:42:38 GMT -5
I talked to Vince last week, he expected a launch of the XPR-7 early in 2012, I think spring. Wow. So much for summer.. It could be 3 months from now. It could be next spring or summer. It could be never. There is nothing definitive about anything other than the product is not yet available. Knowing what I do know, I would not base a purchasing decision on what Vince supposedly said. If Emotiva could have released the XPR-7 by now, they would have. As soon as they can, if that ever happens, they will go to production with it and ship it. At this point, no one really knows when that will be. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 19:22:36 GMT -5
I've waited too long for the XMC-1 to quit now, I am going to wait patiently for the opportunity to sign up on a preorder. Dave. There was a pre-order list about 2 years ago. I know for a fact that tons of people signed up for it. I'm betting quite a few of the people that signed up have moved on to something else now though. |
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Post by Topend on Jun 16, 2011 23:10:15 GMT -5
I've waited too long for the XMC-1 to quit now, I am going to wait patiently for the opportunity to sign up on a preorder. Dave. There was a pre-order list about 2 years ago. I know for a fact that tons of people signed up for it. I'm betting quite a few of the people that signed up have moved on to something else now though. I'm not on that preorder list and I'm sure you're right about people moving on. I am hoping that if another preorder list does come about that I see it first and get my name on it. Those at Emofest will beat me of course. Dave. |
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Post by BillBauman on Jun 16, 2011 23:44:56 GMT -5
It could be 3 months from now. It could be next spring or summer. It could be never. I'm just surprised that it's slipping further is all. I was hoping late summer/late 2010 -- would love to use an XPR-7 for a project that I'm working on, but it sounds like there's still no light at the end of the tunnel. Please don't interpret my response as negativity, it's just frustration because the XPR-7 would be a very good fit for my needs. Just dissapointed that the timeline is so fluid. I'm not faulting Emotiva (my theory is issues with Chinese manufacturers  I'm sure there are a number of factors that determine the release, but I'm just surprised when it seemed like the release has been "soon" ever since 2009. From first look to release to take 3 years, is a long time regardless of how you spin it. I LIKE Emotiva products, otherwise I wouldn't care when it gets released. Agreed, it would be a great addition to the line-up, if it were out. I personally saw the demo unit at Emofest last year, as did hundreds of others, I'm sure. Assuming that Emotiva isn't in the business of making prototypes of products they intend to never ship, we have to assume that despite best efforts, it wasn't ready. Based on that, anything further, at this point, is just speculation. That's all I was saying, really. From what I can gather, the product is still in development and they still plan to deliver it. That doesn't guarantee anything, and it leaves the time frame completely wide open, but hey, at least they haven't announced, "it's dead."  |
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Post by ausman on Jun 17, 2011 11:47:54 GMT -5
given they keep the delays going any longer it's officially gone the way of the DODO LOL
i'm guessing they couldn't the h amp design to work in the current chassis would be my guess..
an amp all dressed up and nowhere to go home too would be another guess..
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Post by roadrunner on Jun 17, 2011 15:36:57 GMT -5
During Emofest 2009, Lonnie and Big Dan were showing the prototype of the XPR-7. That unit required a minimum of 230V/240V 20amp circuit to produce the monsterous output it was designed for. During discussions with Dan and Lonnie they were concerned about releasing an amp that could not be run on typical 120V residential service. They were brainstorming about what changes would be required to accomplish that. In the Emofest 2010 presentation the prototype was being displayed with a 120V configuration and the power output stages were being quoted having significantly lower wattage, compared to the previous year's prototype. I suspect Emotiva is now trying to redesign the XPR-7 to provide as much of the original power and sound quality while lowering the power demands on the wall outlets. Emotiva requires their amps be able to meet very high performance hurdles before sending them to production. The ERS sub woofers went through similar scrutiny before Big Dan decided to pull them from production at the last minute because he felt they were not "good enough" to be Emotiva's flagship sub woofer. Be patient, once Emotiva is satisfied the XPR-7 can pass the hurdles they have established for it, we will see them release the production model to all of their anxious customers.  |
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Post by Erwin.BE on Jun 23, 2011 2:33:56 GMT -5
In the Emofest 2010 presentation the prototype was being displayed with a 120V configuration and the power output stages were being quoted having significantly lower wattage, compared to the previous year's prototype. I suspect Emotiva is now trying to redesign the XPR-7 to provide as much of the original power and sound quality while lowering the power demands on the wall outlets. Roadrunner - thanks for the details... nice to have an explanation (of any kind) to explain why the release is taking a while. I'm sure that it's good for the mass market to operate at 120V, but I know a select group of us would have no problem with 240. In fact, I'd prefer a 240v circuit. Lower amperage. So is this what has become of America? Progress is stopped because of 120V. You guys need to get your act together. 230V is standard here! BTW, how do you guys manage to cook? Our domestic electric cookers ususaly work with 3 x 230V. in industrial areas, we even have 380V to cook with. How else are you going to fry your steak? Unlike music, this is constant power, not peaks.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2011 4:43:40 GMT -5
Roadrunner - thanks for the details... nice to have an explanation (of any kind) to explain why the release is taking a while. I'm sure that it's good for the mass market to operate at 120V, but I know a select group of us would have no problem with 240. In fact, I'd prefer a 240v circuit. Lower amperage. So is this what has become of America? Progress is stopped because of 120V. You guys need to get your act together. 230V is standard here! BTW, how do you guys manage to cook? Our domestic electric cookers ususaly work with 3 x 230V. in industrial areas, we even have 380V to cook with. How else are you going to fry your steak? Unlike music, this is constant power, not peaks. Most stoves (electric cookers) here are 230 volts. How about a 230 volt splitter and extension cord to power the amp off the same line as the stove? |
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Post by dragonV on Jun 23, 2011 4:59:57 GMT -5
Seem's so lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng coming. I'd happily take a drop in power to have it come out soon. As long as it still puts out between 200-300 x 7 channels would still be a beast- and will still be an awesome and popular amp! Come on Emotiva, please please release it soon. Pretty please. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2011 5:19:25 GMT -5
If it had the higher power supply capacity but lower output it would still have great transient response.
Even with a standard ~120 volt supply all my amps have terrific transient response and do not pop the circuit breaker.
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Post by ausman on Jun 28, 2011 9:01:15 GMT -5
problem is we're still waiting for a release date for the xpr-7..
20-40 amp breaker would be my suggestion..
so is there any news when the xpr-7 is being released???
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Post by dragonV on Jun 30, 2011 19:26:21 GMT -5
No mention of the XPR-7 in latest podcast, so wouldn't be holding my breath. Pity they couldn't have just said whether it was scrapped completely or delayed indefinately. I don't think anyone wants a precise release date, just whether it is coming or not. Atleast that way people could move on to other solutions.
Interesting so little news. I wonder what happen to the 30 odd products (was that many from memory wasn't it??) mentioned by emotiva for 2011. Seem's we are now down to 3 in the XDA-1, and the possible release's of the XSP-1 and XMC-1........that is if those 2 do make it by years end.
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Post by sharkman on Jun 30, 2011 19:38:40 GMT -5
I don't know what they were thinking to let that number slip out, whoever it was that communicated it. I think, though, that we could all see it was unrealistic.
At any rate, if you need a big ass 7 channel amp right away, I'd go either Wyred or Outlaw at this point. I get too much volume out of my Onkyo 876 as it is, so there's no way I want anything like that. The XSP on the other hand...
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Post by BillBauman on Jun 30, 2011 19:58:31 GMT -5
No mention of the XPR-7 in latest podcast, so wouldn't be holding my breath. Pity they couldn't have just said whether it was scrapped completely or delayed indefinately. I don't think anyone wants a precise release date, just whether it is coming or not. Atleast that way people could move on to other solutions. Interesting so little news. I wonder what happen to the 30 odd products (was that many from memory wasn't it??) mentioned by emotiva for 2011. Seem's we are now down to 3 in the XDA-1, and the possible release's of the XSP-1 and XMC-1........that is if those 2 do make it by years end. I guarantee you that it is Emotiva's intentions to release the XPR-7 within the next 5 years. If you call and ask, they will confirm that they do intend to still deliver the XPR-7, provided it is feasible and up to their standards and within an acceptable cost range, etc., etc. Since none of that can be confirmed (just like with any other product they'd like to build), no one, not even someone at Emotiva, can tell you whether or not it will come or when. That said, I stand by my guarantee. |
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Post by ausman on Jul 1, 2011 14:19:18 GMT -5
not sure on the the UPA line , though almost it is a stated recommendation of 20 amp lines and breaker, personally i'd work on a 40 amp line and breaker .. I prefer to build over stated recommendations on supply matter, that way over power/under power can never happen I like working with safety margins in mind when i configure something for ht... especially in regards to what to mount power amps onto
it is a safe bet that the xpr-7 push more watt per channel than the stated power rating given the unit is h designed..
as for release date there has so far been 4-5 release dates within the last 12-18 month's I want something set in concrete instead of a failure to deliver on time and keep exceeding deadline emo sets.
look's the sherbourne line get their amp sometime soon, about time emo kick on production off it's xpr line soon..
7x upa-1 mono's are the only choice at present unless you have up to 7k to spend on 7x xpa-'s
jim you may aswell waste another $4k and do a 7 channel setup with xpa1's than wait to waste $2,500-4,000 retail on the xpr-7...
if I was going to waste time building a 7 channel amp i wouldn't waste time pissing around with 200/350 watt models, I'd go for broke and do 300/500 watt models, same with 5 channel models, 3 channel i'd go with 500/1,000 watts per channel, 2 channel 750/1,500 watts, monoblocks 1,500/3,000 watts... that is 8-4 ohm ratings, also list stated ratings for 3, 2, and 1 ohms...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2011 14:25:01 GMT -5
I really want the xmc-1 and xpr-5 but looks like time will not be on emo's side and I'll be making other plans. Too bad, I'd imagine after this is all done, I won't even have an emo product in the house  |
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Post by ausman on Jul 1, 2011 15:30:32 GMT -5
xpr-7 release speculation have been rampant for over 2 years now, they have had a demo model for 1 to 2 years now they seem to keep waving it around as an olive tree's peace branch to keep people interested in the product...
at the present rate there look's like to be 2-5 product on a 4th quarter release for 2011, though i suspect delays so 1st, 2nd or 3rd quarter of 2012/13 for some or most gear, with a hedging bet that most of the slated product releases will end with permanent suspension or complete product line termination, with a 5-10 year ramp up to be done on the sherbourne product lines, not to mention 3-6 month product inventory to see what gear is on the showroom floor to be sold and current/future product releases they have slated for production release..
as a person looking in from the outside looking in, jade/emo has done what outlaw has done with marantz basically stocking crap from another co, because they can't deliver what they promised though while the customers waits for their product they pass the buck and flog another co's product...
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Post by BillBauman on Jul 1, 2011 17:19:27 GMT -5
as a person looking in from the outside looking in, jade/emo has done what outlaw has done with marantz basically stocking crap from another co, because they can't deliver what they promised though while the customers waits for their product they pass the buck and flog another co's product... Dude, none of your posts make any sense to me, but this has to be the most senseless one yet. What other company's products is Emotiva selling on their site? And in substitute of what? |
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Post by reaper60 on Jul 1, 2011 17:34:42 GMT -5
As far as the # of products released by Emotiva during 2011, I think you are forgetting some. ERC-2 for one. What does it matter how many they release though? We each have atleast one product on our "must have" list. So long as Emo stays on that list, they are doing well. I personally can't wait for the XMC-1. I am also not surprised that a power amp of this size is getting pushed back as I doubt it's a priority. They already have amp solutions for practically everything. If you need 200wpc then get an XPA-5 and a XPA-2, or if you dare dual XPA-1's. Besides, nobody NEEDS 400wpc x 7. It rediculous to even consider that amount of power. Are you building an Imax in your house? What speakers handle that?
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Post by Pauly on Jul 1, 2011 17:39:53 GMT -5
You can never have too much, reaper. There are plenty of speakers that can handle 400 watts, and they would be very happy doing so.
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