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Post by klinemj on Dec 3, 2009 22:08:04 GMT -5
...and cats... (sorry, had to add that...)
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Post by briank on Dec 3, 2009 23:13:01 GMT -5
Can cables make a difference in sound? Yes. Can everyone hear the difference? No. Now that that's settled, I guess we need to do some testing to see which cables taste bad to cat's as that maybe the larger concern. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2009 6:50:17 GMT -5
...and cats... (sorry, had to add that...) I too have this problem . . .
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Post by mathguy on Dec 5, 2009 8:41:40 GMT -5
I have to admit that I have never believed in any of benefits of higher priced cables. However having said that, it is not MY system either. So I say buy whatever you like ( and can safely afford ) and if it brings joy to one, so much the better. Now as to the cats....I just have to remember to get them out of the room after I am finished with the system...otherwise the top of the amp (LPA-1) apparently is warm enough to make my calico cat think of it as a place for napping *shakes head*
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Post by klinemj on Dec 5, 2009 23:31:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately for my house, the only doors are on bedrooms, bathrooms, the pantry, and the laundry room. So, the cats can wander all over. And, in addition to trying to warm themselves on my amps/etc, they do want to chew on cables. In a bit of mixed emotions, the one that chewed most died a couple years ago (natural causes...~17 yrs. old), but the younger ones may pick up the habit.
At least I figured out a stereo stand setup that prevents all but the new kitten to get into warming position.
And, while on the topic of cats...I wonder if a spray of "odor of wet dog" might keep them away from cables and such...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2009 11:59:54 GMT -5
Unfortunately for my house, the only doors are on bedrooms, bathrooms, the pantry, and the laundry room. So, the cats can wander all over. And, in addition to trying to warm themselves on my amps/etc, they do want to chew on cables. In a bit of mixed emotions, the one that chewed most died a couple years ago (natural causes...~17 yrs. old), but the younger ones may pick up the habit. At least I figured out a stereo stand setup that prevents all but the new kitten to get into warming position. And, while on the topic of cats...I wonder if a spray of "odor of wet dog" might keep them away from cables and such... with as many cats as we have, we are always on the look out for new ways to protect the gear. The elder statesman (20 years old) tends to sleep on the XPA-5. . . then wake up and puke. Years ago he ruined an expensive power conditioner / strip and he puked on it. No way will this happen to the XPA-5. I cover it with a strong piece of cardboard cut the shape of the amp when its off. He does not like to sleep on cardboard so double plus. Now the Mirage are another story. I told my wife I will blow a gasket if the speakers turn into scratching posts (I am 100% unforgiving on this matter). Right now, its a pain in the rear but I wrap the speakers each and every time with very heavy furniture pads. They are safe but I am looking for a better, more convenient solution. So far, the prevailing idea is to approach a seam stress or upholsterer (sp?) and make a " cozy " for each speaker. I did not know what a 'cozy' was but my wife explained its like those things that cover a blender or a toaster. If it works, I will do it but if anyone has a better idea, please PM me. thanks.
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Post by checkereddemon on Dec 6, 2009 13:25:38 GMT -5
Rather, you could easily make your own cozies by simply attaching some Velcro to some old towels and then wrapping the speakers with those. This would cost you all of about $2.00 to do...
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Post by klinemj on Dec 6, 2009 18:20:40 GMT -5
Or, you could wrap the cat in some old towels with velcro on them. Wouldn't that be entertaining! And, as to cat hurl, I can sympathize. We came home yesterday and my son found that the cat had hurled on the coat he left laying on the floor. At least that provided a teaching moment ("see, this is a good reason why I say don't leave your coat on the floor!").
I do like the "speaker cozy" idea.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2009 14:46:32 GMT -5
Rather, you could easily make your own cozies by simply attaching some Velcro to some old towels and then wrapping the speakers with those. This would cost you all of about $2.00 to do... Now that's a damn fine idea . . thanks for the tip . . i will report back . .
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Post by flamingeye on Dec 9, 2009 21:10:35 GMT -5
When I had cats what worked for me was cayenne pepper - put a table spoon in a small spray bottle fill with water shake well then spray cables let dry then connect them to whatever and no more cat problems with my cables and for speakers spay around the base of speakers and no more cat problem with speaker grill and that solution will not discolor anything ether , it work for counter tops and plants too
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Post by klinemj on Dec 9, 2009 22:07:21 GMT -5
That's a good one...I had to do that to our garbage a couple years ago. A stray beagle was roaming our neighborhood, and he kept coming into our garage & rooting through our trash all week or doing that when we set it out for pickup. Finally, I laced the bags with a BIG load of cayenne pepper. He didn't go that anymore...
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Post by davedoubleu on Dec 15, 2009 19:16:18 GMT -5
Yes, you can hear a difference in cables. To be specific, I ran a little experiment with my son-in-law when I noticed that he was driving his 12" acoustic suspension speakers (Cerwin Vega) with properly phased approx. 10' lengths of 22 gauge wire. Ugh. I happened to have some 10 gauge, multi-strand, OFC wire at home, so I went to get it.
After we replaced his wire, we cranked it up and listened. I can make a long story short by simply telling you that I was forced (under penalty of death) to leave my 10 gauge wire hooked up to his system.
If you don't believe this story, go buy some 22 ga. and 10 ga. and listen for your self. The difference is NOT insignificant.
I know that the difference between 22 ga. and 10 ga. is quite a lot. I do not know at what gauge thicker than 22 ga. that most people would fail to hear this difference. I just know that almost anyone would hear the difference I heard. (And 'gauge' is only ONE variable!)
Hope this is useful.
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Post by scottl on Dec 18, 2009 23:39:05 GMT -5
When I had cats what worked for me was cayenne pepper - put a table spoon in a small spray bottle fill with water shake well then spray ... no more cat problems +1 - I was going to say almost exactly the same thing! I've never had to do it for hifi (haven't had a cat in years), but it works for everything else.
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Post by Nooff on Dec 19, 2009 18:06:28 GMT -5
Personally, I can hear differences between various cables, either keeping the signal mostly untouched or losing more detail.
In practice, people could tell differences between cables, but never measure them. If differences can't be measured, then theoretically speaking, there is no difference.
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Post by paintedklown on Dec 19, 2009 20:11:20 GMT -5
Has anyone tried the Ultra series cables yet? If so, what did you think?
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Post by klinemj on Dec 20, 2009 7:15:03 GMT -5
A friend has some. I didn't do any serious A-B-ing, but I thought they sounded fine.
On hearing differences in cables, I have heard some in close A-B-ing. More than anything, I noticed most sounded fine, and some just sounded bad (harsh, grainy). And the sound had nothing to do w/cost. One particular company's entire line, to me, sounded bad starting with their least expensive up to ones that were $200/meter. Others sounded just fine - including Emotiva's (which are what I am now using!).
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