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Post by rk1981 on Oct 25, 2009 2:01:06 GMT -5
My Def Tech ceiling speakers are history, left in place as I move on to new dig's. After hearing nothing but praise for the ERD-1's, and needing replacements, I jumped on the Halloween sale. My only concern (other than my wife seeing the bill) is that I plan to use the wall mounts and I've read that they can pose difficulties when using 10 gauge speaker wire.
Question: Will the EMO X-series cables fit if the spade connectors are used? If not, any suggestions?
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Post by roadrunner on Oct 25, 2009 5:45:47 GMT -5
Spade connector should work just fine. Unless you have already run your speaker wire, I would highly suggest you consider using 12 awg or 14 awg to simplify connecting the cables in a very tight space. Most users just use bare wire to hook up their ERD-1. If this is your choice, I recommend that you "tin" the exposed copper wire before attempting to place it in the binding posts.
Some Lounge members have used 10 gauge wire to connect their ERD-1s, so it can be done. The question is how hard do you want to work to install it. Unless you have extremely long distances involved with hooking up the ERD-1s, using 12 or 14 gauge speaker wire is more than enough to provide you with superior sound.
What ever you decide to do, closely examine the spacing you are going to be working with before buying your cables. Some people have better hand-eye coordination than others... keep this in mind while making your decision. The installation is not hard to do, but does require your full attention. Read the instruction sheet carefully before preceding. ;D
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Post by rk1981 on Oct 25, 2009 14:09:24 GMT -5
Spade connector should work just fine. Unless you have already run your speaker wire, I would highly suggest you consider using 12 awg or 14 awg to simplify connecting the cables in a very tight space. Most users just use bare wire to hook up their ERD-1. If this is your choice, I recommend that you "tin" the exposed copper wire before attempting to place it in the binding posts. Some Lounge members have used 10 gauge wire to connect their ERD-1s, so it can be done. The question is how hard do you want to work to install it. Unless you have extremely long distances involved with hooking up the ERD-1s, using 12 or 14 gauge speaker wire is more than enough to provide you with superior sound. What ever you decide to do, closely examine the spacing you are going to be working with before buying your cables. Some people have better hand-eye coordination than others... keep this in mind while making your decision. The installation is not hard to do, but does require your full attention. Read the instruction sheet carefully before preceding. ;D Thanks roadrunner! Should the wires to each speaker be the same gauge? I have two XPA-5's and bi-amp the front and center channels and use the remaining channels for the four surrounds. |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Oct 29, 2009 8:27:02 GMT -5
Some Lounge members have used 10 gauge wire to connect their ERD-1s, so it can be done. The question is how hard do you want to work to install it. Unless you have extremely long distances involved with hooking up the ERD-1s, using 12 or 14 gauge speaker wire is more than enough to provide you with superior sound. What ever you decide to do, closely examine the spacing you are going to be working with before buying your cables. Some people have better hand-eye coordination than others... keep this in mind while making your decision. The installation is not hard to do, but does require your full attention. Read the instruction sheet carefully before preceding. ;D Yes, if you don't read the instructions you could be "preceding" (which would be going in the wrong direction) instead of proceeding. ;-) IMO, using X series speaker cables would be overkill and they are too nice to put inside walls - I think that would be a real waste. The ends of the cables are also VERY firm and you would have a very hard time getting the spades to attach to ERD-1s I believe. Thinner bare wire would be fine - or you could maybe put larger wire around the post (maybe with a washer or two) rather than through the hole. I would think it would be best to use the same guage for the same sets, i.e. left and right the same, but I don't beliee you would have any issue with using different guages for e.g. LCR and surround. I have XSS cables for LCR and bare wire (probably 12 or 14 awg) for surrounds and probably 16 or smaller for presence and the setup is kicking ass. |
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Post by solidstate on Oct 31, 2009 12:10:15 GMT -5
For in wall use make sure you use cable that's rated for it. CL2/3 is a spec for in-wall cable and it's code in 99% of jurisdictions. This doesn't mean you can't... it's simply not "code". Dude if your looking to purchase speaker cable get a 500' box of Belden 1309A 14ga or if your hell bent on 10ga get the 1313A. It's a lot more expensive than 1309A but it's fantastic speaker cable and I noticed bass improve slightly using the 1313A. Speaker cable is BS for the most part. Just make sure you get something that's OFC and uses an insulator other than PVC. I found that PVC overtime off gasses and causes a layer of oxidization on the conductor. The Belden SKU fits the bill.... Just get a 500' box of it and be done with it... As for speaker plugs... Stay away from those knockoff WBT locking bananas. They are not made of brass but some kinda cheap cast metal X. They do have a negative affect on signal continuity and sound quality. I'd get spades for the speakers and bananas for the amp. You can get pure OFC copper ones cheap if you look around. I believe Vampire makes ones that are solid copper and aren't to pricey if you find the right source. One thing that's total BS and can hurt sound quality IMHO and experience... It's bi-wiring... total BS! (canare starquad uses take heed!) The guy bi-amping is also making a mistake IMHO. Vance spent a lot of time on that Xover and your circumventing half of his work bi-amping.... With that said I'd still remove the jumper plate and use speaker wire instead.
Solid-State
PS Not that it would make a huge difference or any at all... I wish a 1313A type cable existed that used Teflon dielectric and UP-OCC. IMHO this would be the perfect speaker cable. 1313A with teflon and UP-OCC with same outer jacket as 1313A
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