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Post by RayoVac on Dec 12, 2009 15:44:00 GMT -5
O.K. don't laugh to hard or shoot me... but I am going to ask this question. Maybe because I am just looking for more positive support towards my decision.
I am considering trying out the Emotiva 8.3 as L/R, 6.3 as C and 4 ERDs. I have an MPS-1 to drive them with. I use the MPS-1 today to drive a full Klipsch Ref-7 setup with 4 RS-7 surrounds, but I use RB-75s which are a bookshelf vs. the RF-7 monsters most Ref-7 guys run. The Klipsch's are quite a bit more efficient then the Emtotivas and drive at 8ohms vs 4 with the Emotivas.
My Question: Am I going to wish I had more Amp for all the Emotiva stuff given the lower resistance and lower sensitivity? We primarily use our system for HT and normal TV viewing, but I do occasionally like to CRANK up the tunes from my Sonos Zone Player connected via TosLink to my Pre-Pro serving Loseless.
I have an SVS PC+ 20-29 with the updated 12.3 driver for the low end.
I fear I won't be able to get the same kind of SPL levels I get with the Klipsch, that it might be a hurdle with the Emotivas. I the kid that used to sit in the front row of Rush concerts and like my Movies to be "in your face" like they are in the Theater. I like my music VERY LOUD... maybe Obnoxiously loud (according to my wife.), I claim I like to "Feel" my music.
Any opinions would be appreciated,
Rayo
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Post by Animo on Dec 12, 2009 16:01:31 GMT -5
I think you will be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2009 16:16:35 GMT -5
IMO the klipsch will be louder at the same volume for sure but it really depends on how much the emo setup will take before they start to distress. I love the Ref-7's. They are amazing speakers for movies and live dvd's. Not my taste for recorded music though but IMO most people that I personally know that have them, they are in HT rooms not 2 ch rooms.
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Post by roadrunner on Dec 12, 2009 20:29:35 GMT -5
Rayovac
Unless your listening room is monsterous, your MPS-2 amp will be more than enough to drive the Emotiva speakers to ear-bleeding SPL levels. Emotiva routinely uses XPA-1 Mono Block Amps to demo their ERT-8.3 speakers. Emotiva speakers love power, they sound very clean and have great clarity at all volume levels... without a hint of any stress.
You have assembled a very exceptionable speaker system using Emotiva's award winning line. Every owner who has posted on this board loves the package you have purchased. Some of them replaced their prior speakers (that had cost them five times as much) with the same exact models you chose. Amazing sound quality is the hallmark of Emotiva speakers. Sit back and enjoy.
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Post by flamingeye on Dec 12, 2009 20:56:18 GMT -5
They will sound awesome with that MPS-2 hell any good quality speaker will sound awesome with that amp - your good to go
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Post by RayoVac on Dec 12, 2009 21:13:13 GMT -5
Rayovac Unless your listening room is monsterous, your MPS-2 amp will be more than enough to drive the Emotiva speakers to ear-bleeding SPL levels. Emotiva routinely uses XPA-1 Mono Block Amps to demo their ERT-8.3 speakers. Emotiva speakers love power, they sound very clean and have great clarity at all volume levels... without a hint of any stress. You have assembled a very exceptionable speaker system using Emotiva's award winning line. Every owner who has posted on this board loves the package you have purchased. Some of them replaced their prior speakers (that had cost them five times as much) with the same exact models you chose. Amazing sound quality is the hallmark of Emotiva speakers. Sit back and enjoy. Well... I have not bought them yet, still fence sitting. Also started looking at the Paradigm Studio .V5... but based on the cost... it sure seems like I see lots of positive ERT, ERM comments saying stuff like "they are very close to the Paradigms". Well if that is true, why pay 3 or 4 times more? My listening room (HT Room) is 20x25 with vaulted ceilings (only to about 10 feet) with about a 8 foot opening at the front right corner. Picture from the open corner at the end of this post. One big hurdle crossed... My Wfe bought into the idea of me selling all the Klipsch stuff for the Emotivas. That was a big hurdle to overcome. Oh yeah and I have an MPS-1, I know the guts are the same as an MPS-2, but it looks better!!!! ;D Sure it does not match anything anymore, oh well.
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Post by bigred7078 on Dec 12, 2009 21:42:20 GMT -5
they are nothing like paradigm lol
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Post by strindl on Dec 12, 2009 21:50:42 GMT -5
Your amp won't limit your speaker choice at all...that MPS1 is a monster and delivers plenty of clean power to drive an all emotiva speaker setup. You just have to decide if you want to change from the Klipsch setup.
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Post by RayoVac on Dec 12, 2009 22:19:20 GMT -5
they are nothing like paradigm lol Meaning... the Paradigms are so much better? If so Studio or Monitor or any Paradigm?
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Post by RayoVac on Dec 12, 2009 22:28:08 GMT -5
Your amp won't limit your speaker choice at all...that MPS1 is a monster and delivers plenty of clean power to drive an all emotiva speaker setup. You just have to decide if you want to change from the Klipsch setup. Yeah... I think I am ready for a change. I know it may sound odd, but I have had Klipsch since BEFORE I was born. My Father built a K-Horn and had a La-Scala prior to us kids coming along. I can remember in like 3rd grade, I would put on an album open the living room windows, crank up his stuff, and run down the street to see how far I could still hear it. Luckily I never got caught doing that. I have had Klipsch stuff from my very first two speaker setup in my teens. I have a bunch of Vintage Klipsch stuff, like the original build plans my Father used, a letter from Paul Klipsch old brochures etc. But I think it may be time to let my ears decide if they like a different sound better. Emo's 30 days try it deal, would let me easily sample the ERM 6.3, if I like its sound as center... I would probably trust that I would like the 8.3s and the ERDs. Flawed Logic or would you guys sample more then just the 6.3? Old 1955 Klipsch Brochure pages:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2009 0:36:55 GMT -5
Emo's 30 days try it deal, would let me easily sample the ERM 6.3, if I like its sound as center... I would probably trust that I would like the 8.3s and the ERDs. Flawed Logic or would you guys sample more then just the 6.3? That is just what I was going to suggest when I saw your last post. Your Klipsch all run either 97 or 98 dB's in efficiency (sensitivity). The Emotivas all are rated at 89 dB's, although I think they are perhaps a little higher. This is a significant difference and I certainly understand your original question being, can the Emotivas play loud enough for my listening habits, extremely loud at times. I have owned some of the classic horns in the past like Klipsch and Altec Lansing but now own Emotiva. I think you will find after quite a few hours of listening time that you will prefer the sound of the Emotivas. However, the efficiency is also important to you. I suggest that you buy one ERM-6.3 center speaker and compare it to your Klispch RC-7 center. This will allow you to compare the sound character of both speakers while comparing the ability to play as loud as you desire. This A/B test will only cost you the return shipping on the 6.3 if you still prefer the Klipsch sound. The method I would use is to place both speakers side by side and out away from any walls and not on the floor. Test them both in the horizontal (one on top of the other, switch half way thru test) and vertical orientation (side by side). Connect one to speaker A, left channel and the other to speaker B, left channel (both left channel so they are playing the exact same music). Now play music or movie soundtracks and simply switch back and forth at first to hear the actual difference in sound level due to efficiency. Next switch back and forth but adjust the volume so that they are playing as close to the same loudness as possible. This will allow you to compare the sound characteristics. Then play the 6.3 itself at high volumes to see if it will meet your loudness requirements. I'll put my ten bucks that you'll order the remaining Emotiva speakers. Later if you feel that you could squeeze just a little more volume then you could save for the soon to be released Emotiva XPR-7. ;D PS: Love the Klipschorn Brochure!
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Post by bigred7078 on Dec 13, 2009 0:44:00 GMT -5
they are nothing like paradigm lol Meaning... the Paradigms are so much better? If so Studio or Monitor or any Paradigm? no, meaning they dont sound anything alike. Two totally different sounding speaker companies. The metal domes of the 'digms are just far different from the soft domes of the emotivas.
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Post by bigred7078 on Dec 13, 2009 0:46:35 GMT -5
If your worried about if the Emotivas can get loud, dont worry they can get PLENTY loud lol. We had them just freakin cranked at the St. Louis Emotiva GTG.
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Post by bfisher on Dec 13, 2009 12:17:35 GMT -5
agreed - the emos will get extremely loud. However they sound so clean (and not stressed) when doing it that they don't sound as loud (of course, this could be my XPA amps helping ) I've measured with SPL several times - we run our movies and music louder now than we used to - but it's far less fatiguing and sounds much better.
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Post by RayoVac on Dec 13, 2009 13:30:14 GMT -5
I'll put my ten bucks that you'll order the remaining Emotiva speakers. Later if you feel that you could squeeze just a little more volume then you could save for the soon to be released Emotiva XPR-7. ;D Chuckienut... this is the exact kind of information I was looking for, dare I say "wanting to hear". I will start with a 6.3 and A/B it against my RC-7 and go from there. I laughed when you mentioned the XPR-7... holy crap forget the $$$, did you see the size!!!! As it is, I had to make a new diamond plate shelf to support my 115 pound MPS-1 and it barely fits front to back in my Sanus furniture. I would have to get all new Racks/Furniture for that beast!!! But those blinky lights would sure look cool. I also appreciate the info on SPL capabilites you guys have given me. It sounds as though continued hearing depreciation through damaging SPL levles should easily be achievable with the Emotiva's A couple of pictures of the shelf modification I had to do to support the MPS-1. The old one was glass, also had to put the amp on the bottom of the stack as the upper shelves just did not seem trustworthy to hold that weight.
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Post by RayoVac on Dec 13, 2009 13:56:05 GMT -5
Ohhh yeah... so anyone got a Pre-Pro they wanna lend me? I should have held onto my DMC-1 longer. I can't do any speaker demoing with nothing to drive my MPS-1. Hmmm... seemed like a good idea at the time, patiently waiting for the UMC-1 while we watch TV and Movies through the TV speakers.
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Dec 13, 2009 15:18:28 GMT -5
It shouldn't be too long now.
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Post by RayoVac on Dec 13, 2009 16:10:55 GMT -5
It shouldn't be too long now. Yes... but I have speaker upgrade-itis NOW!!! ;D BTW... where do you mount the 5th ERD?
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Post by roadrunner on Dec 13, 2009 17:08:27 GMT -5
Rayovac
You might be surprised to learn the new XPR-7 weighs almost exactly the same as your MSP-2. It also has the same depth. The only problem fitting into your rack is that it is taller than your MPS-2, but from looking at your photo it looks like you MIGHT just have enough room to squeeze it in. Of course, the XPR-7 may cost just a "little" more. lol Just think, with the XPR you could use it as an arc welder during your down periods. ;D
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Post by RayoVac on Dec 13, 2009 21:35:58 GMT -5
Rayovac You might be surprised to learn the new XPR-7 weighs almost exactly the same as your MSP-2. It also has the same depth. The only problem fitting into your rack is that it is taller than your MPS-2, but from looking at your photo it looks like you MIGHT just have enough room to squeeze it in. Of course, the XPR-7 may cost just a "little" more. lol Just think, with the XPR you could use it as an arc welder during your down periods. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D After just posting a long winded soap box reply in another thread... this made me laugh!!! I only have about an inch above my MPS-1... but if I wanted to be real hard core, I could modify my Sanus stand and pull out the shelf above... then I would have plenty of room. I guess I did not think about the weight, since it does not appear to be modular like the MPS series... you would save a bunch of weight of all that extra structure holding the modules together, fans etc. Has there been confirmation on voltage requirements, will it be 220v?. Any good Arc Welder runs off 220v!!!
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