Rythmik Audio F12

[Pauly]

Thanks to you too ntrain.

[bootman]

For someone with a DSP1124P or SMS-1 would it make sense just to go with the A300 amp?

You still get direct servo correct?

[ntrain42]

Feb 9, 2010 20:59:42 GMT -5 bootman said:

For someone with a DSP1124P or SMS-1 would it make sense just to go with the A300 amp?

You still get direct servo correct?

Id prolly do the xlr370 instead.............get the extra db of headroom.

[RadTech]

Feb 8, 2010 21:03:07 GMT -5 ntrain42 said:

Hehe, and if someone wants Ill show you an eD Class D plate amp. Its not a bad unit itself, but its nowhere near the quality of the Rythmik piece. You get what you pay for.

Yeah, lets see since I just bought your eDs. Anyone interested in two eD A5s-300 Sub woofers just 3 months old? PM me.

[Deleted]

Feb 9, 2010 20:59:42 GMT -5 bootman said:

For someone with a DSP1124P or SMS-1 would it make sense just to go with the A300 amp?

You still get direct servo correct?

bootman:

In all honesty, the A370 amp is the better amp. The power supply alone is worth it. Output wise it's not a big difference, but the sum of the parts is.

[ntrain42]

500 watt Class D amp. Actually hits its rated spec at about 500 watts .5% THD.......the only eD amp that does hit its rating at less than 1% distortion.

[bootman]

Feb 9, 2010 21:56:39 GMT -5 neekos said:

Feb 9, 2010 20:59:42 GMT -5 bootman said:

For someone with a DSP1124P or SMS-1 would it make sense just to go with the A300 amp?

You still get direct servo correct?

bootman:

In all honesty, the A370 amp is the better amp. The power supply alone is worth it. Output wise it's not a big difference, but the sum of the parts is.

Yeah, but it is 30% more to do so.
If you already have a means to EQ properly, the extra 1db of headroom may not be worth 30%.

I would even argue you might get better performance than just the 370 alone with a good eq.

Good stuff!

[Deleted]

How is it 30% difference?

The F12 with the 370 watt amp is $799
the A300 amp F12 is $699

[ntrain42]

All Rythmik amps use the same quality parts and basic design(Cept the 300 uses a basic transformer)on their amp boards. The 370PEQ(1 band 3 way eq) and XLR(which has XLR inputs and a master control input) versions will have one more db output roughly over the A300 along with a subsonic filter and 12/24 selectable xover.

[bootman]

Feb 10, 2010 8:54:23 GMT -5 neekos said:

How is it 30% difference?

The F12 with the 370 watt amp is $799
the A300 amp F12 is $699

I was looking at the F15.
www.rythmikaudio.com/F15.html

$699 vs $899.

At $699 I would get the F15 with a A300 if I had a way to eq it properly.
That is the best buy of the whole line.
(assuming that this A300 also has servo drive)

[Deleted]

Gotcha.

By the way, the A300 amp is Direct Servo.

[Animo]

Feb 8, 2010 20:27:33 GMT -5 ntrain42 said:

Feb 8, 2010 20:22:34 GMT -5 Pauly said:

Well, I no longer use my HT for much music anymore since I'm building a 2 channel rig in another room. I do use it for SACD though. I do think it's important to have a tight accurate sub for HT as well, and not just output and slam. My room is only 18x13, so maybe the Rythmik would be plenty. Does it still offer enough slam to make movies fun? Keep in mind, I would be buying two F15's if I ever do decide to go with Rythmik.

2 F15's in an 18x13 room would make you think your in the middle of a magnitude 5 earthquake while watching a movie at reference volume levels. Your talking about frequency extension down to 13-14hz at OVER 100db output levels in that sized room.

Pauly,
my room is 17 x 12. My eD A7s-650 does an excellent job in this space with both movies and music. No one that has heard this has had anything negative to say about it. Usually, they just walk out of here with their jaws dragging on the floor.

[ntrain42]

Feb 10, 2010 9:26:16 GMT -5 bootman said:

Feb 10, 2010 8:54:23 GMT -5 neekos said:

How is it 30% difference?

The F12 with the 370 watt amp is $799
the A300 amp F12 is $699

I was looking at the F15.
www.rythmikaudio.com/F15.html

$699 vs $899.

At $699 I would get the F15 with a A300 if I had a way to eq it properly.
That is the best buy of the whole line.
(assuming that this A300 also has servo drive)

If bang for the buck is the goal, I wouldn't hesitate to do the F15 with the A300. Again your talking only about a 1 db difference at most. Its still going to outperform the F12 with 2-4db more headroom/output. Besides about 100 watts, you lose the subsonic/rumble filter, 24/db option xover and 1 band PEQ(Or XLR master input). If you have a good processor with good sub EQ function, no reason to get the A370PEQ. If you need a bit more power you have the choice of the PEQ or XLR amp options. Win, win situation anyway you look at it regardless.

[ntrain42]

Feb 9, 2010 21:49:03 GMT -5 RadTech said:

Feb 8, 2010 21:03:07 GMT -5 ntrain42 said:

Hehe, and if someone wants Ill show you an eD Class D plate amp. Its not a bad unit itself, but its nowhere near the quality of the Rythmik piece. You get what you pay for.

Yeah, lets see since I just bought your eDs. Anyone interested in two eD A5s-300 Sub woofers just 3 months old? PM me.

You never got back to me on those settings. That xover should be set very low with your current setup. Alot of sub power with those towers you have. Tellin ya, cross em over no higher than 35-40hz and set the gains to blend in to the point where you cant tell where the bass is coming from. Ive seen time and time again where people set the gains and xover way to high, one of the most common issues. Do you have a lead on borrowing an RTA?

[RadTech]

Not yet, I downloaded the RTA software from Home Theater Shack and, ordered a Dayton mic from Parts Express.

[ntrain42]

Feb 10, 2010 10:50:28 GMT -5 RadTech said:

Not yet, I downloaded the RTA software from Home Theater Shack and, ordered a Dayton mic from Parts Express.

Good to hear, gonna tell me what your settings are at yet? LOL! Is it a secret?

[RadTech]

I have tried it many different ways including the way you suggested. Loud, low and, wallshaking is what I get.

[ntrain42]

Feb 10, 2010 11:55:56 GMT -5 RadTech said:

I have tried it many different ways including the way you suggested. Loud, low and, wallshaking is what I get.

Hehe, well I told you, output with those beasts would be substantial. And I know you can get a good musical blend with your current setup. Using an 805 right? You have the tools to get those subs to blend in meticulously. Just gotta keep the xover LOW. Let the sub be just that.......a pure SUB. Don't let em do any midbass frequencies, not with those towers you have. You want to feel them, not hear them. I actually care that your eventually going to be 100% happy with those once they are dialed in correctly. Telling me that they are BOOMY tells me they are set way to high currently.