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Post by goodeye on Jan 28, 2010 13:03:08 GMT -5
This question is aimed at anyone who has both a Oppo BDP-83 Blu-ray player AND a Emotiva ERC-1 cd player.
I have the Oppo Blu-ray player which I use for playing my CD's. I'm just wondering if there is any appreciable audio quality differences between the 2 machines. I would really like to hear from someone who actually has both machines in the same system.
Thanks,
Greg
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Post by Bruce on Jan 28, 2010 13:24:45 GMT -5
I have both machines and a USP-1.The Oppo using 2 CH analog is a good CD player.The ERC-1 is a much better player for CD using 2 CH. analog.Pairing the ERC-1 with a USP-1 is an AWESOME CD player as it relay lites up the ERC-1 and makes the analog sound much smoother.The OPPO BDP-83 is a great BLU RAY,SACD and DVD AUDIO player.The OPPO is one of the best DVD converter players i have seen and I have had a few from many competitors.The OPPO should look great with your PANASONIC display.
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Post by darkvisions on Jan 28, 2010 15:23:01 GMT -5
I have both and I agree with Bruce, the ERC-1 sounds better using 2-Channel analog for CD's.
I love both and will not be removing them from my system anytime soon!!
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Post by goodeye on Jan 28, 2010 17:27:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies. My BDP-83 is connected only via HDMI and I will leave it like that but if I purchase a ERC-1 I will connect it via the analog connectors.
Greg
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Post by tosob on Jan 31, 2010 17:16:18 GMT -5
I'm in the market for a cd and blue ray player, on a limited budget. My current equipment list is. panny 50" plasma, umc1 and an ips1. which would be the best set up
oppo bdp80 and an erc1 total about $700
oppo bdp 83 total $500
oppo bdp 83 and an erc1 total $900
oppo bdp 83 se total about $900
which gives me the best bang for the buck? which gives me the best sound?
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Post by SteveB on Jan 31, 2010 20:12:01 GMT -5
If you are on a tight budget, I would recommend buying the BDP-83 which will give you the best picture for your 50" plasma and very good CD quality. Then keep an eye out for a used ERC-1. That is what I did. You do see used ERC-1's coming around. I saved about $130. For CD use, I would recommend using the BDP-83's dedicated analog CD output terminals. I was very happy with the CD audio quality with the BDP-83 until I found a used ERC-1. It was infinitly better than the two Sony CD players I was using!
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Post by Samuel on Feb 1, 2010 10:32:12 GMT -5
I will agree with most here that the ERC-1 is way better at playing CD's that the OPPO-BDP-83. I have both and will be keeping them for a long time. Also try a HDCD with the ERC-1 and it will blow you away, if you have Dire Straits SACD, it also comes with the HDCD track and will play as such on the ERC-1. Sound is WOW!!!!
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Post by Bruce on Feb 1, 2010 11:51:56 GMT -5
I just played Brothers In Arms[Dire Straits] using my ERC-1 and the USP-1 and the sound is AWESOME!!!
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Post by akai on Feb 1, 2010 13:40:51 GMT -5
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Post by LCSeminole on Feb 1, 2010 18:23:41 GMT -5
I'm in the market for a cd and blue ray player, on a limited budget. My current equipment list is. panny 50" plasma, umc1 and an ips1. which would be the best set up oppo bdp80 and an erc1 total about $700 oppo bdp 83 total $500 oppo bdp 83 and an erc1 total $900 oppo bdp 83 se total about $900 which gives me the best bang for the buck? which gives me the best sound? thanks\ If you don't like buying used, especially equipment with internal moving parts like a cd transport, then go after a B-Stock ERC-1 at Emotiva, save $50 and have the assurance that Emotiva will take care of you if anything goes wrong in the shipping and no headaches with an eBay seller that says file a claim with UPS.  |
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Post by tosob on Feb 1, 2010 19:13:19 GMT -5
Thanks for all the responses. Alot of people seem to really like the erc-1 and the oppo 83. Akai, thanks for the link to the 83se, nice review. Looks like it will be the 83 and the erc1 or the 83se. Tough decision, I have a while since emotiva just clean out my pockets for a while.
thanks again
marty
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Post by sanjaygolf on Feb 1, 2010 19:20:10 GMT -5
I'm in the market for a cd and blue ray player, on a limited budget. My current equipment list is. panny 50" plasma, umc1 and an ips1. which would be the best set up oppo bdp80 and an erc1 total about $700 oppo bdp 83 total $500 oppo bdp 83 and an erc1 total $900 oppo bdp 83 se total about $900 which gives me the best bang for the buck? which gives me the best sound? thanks\ How important are the features on the Oppo? If all you're worried about in the BR player is BR PQ then there are many cheaper options available. You could easily get a BR player for $100 and then get the ERC and only be out ~500. But if you do have a lot of regular DVDs and very picky about their PQ then I'd go for the Oppo BDP83. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2010 12:12:25 GMT -5
I will agree with most here that the ERC-1 is way better at playing CD's that the OPPO-BDP-83. I have both and will be keeping them for a long time. Also try a HDCD with the ERC-1 and it will blow you away, if you have Dire Straits SACD, it also comes with the HDCD track and will play as such on the ERC-1. Sound is WOW!!!! I have both and I would echo the sentiment that the ERC-1 is superior for CD playback. I also have the Dire Straits SACD but have not popped into the ERC yet (have done so on the Oppo in mutli channel . . wow) but I will do so today. |
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Post by snodog on Feb 2, 2010 22:21:01 GMT -5
Interesting where did you find B-stock Erc-1's? I didnt know there was B-stock here, sometimes that is the best deal especially with a full warranty.
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Post by NorthStar on Feb 2, 2010 23:02:37 GMT -5
This is a very interesting thread, and I can totally relate to what people are saying (I myself used my CD player with HDCD decoding, from its analog stereo output). But I must confess, I do it less & less as the Dacs in recent receivers or pre/pros are much up to date than my lovely Dacs in my CD player. There is a sound barrier that I just or just about to reach & pass beyond. Am I the only one?
* But, it fascinate me in these days and ages, that people are still using analog connections!
Would it be much easier to simply use the digital Coaxial or HDMI outputs and inputs to listen to CD 2-channel stereo? And with the advantage of using digital bass management?
And also the advantage of a good digital room EQ?
The sound quality doing it this way should be still significant enough and pleasant to make the jump, no?
Any thoughts?
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Post by snodog on Feb 2, 2010 23:43:59 GMT -5
Well it depends for me I guess, if by using the HDMI to the UMC for SACD even though it converts it down, as long as the sound is about the same I probably wont get the analogs, but if there is a noticeable difference then I will.
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Post by budgetaudiophile on Feb 3, 2010 13:51:17 GMT -5
This is a very interesting thread, and I can totally relate to what people are saying (I myself used my CD player with HDCD decoding, from its analog stereo output). But I must confess, I do it less & less as the Dacs in recent receivers or pre/pros are much up to date than my lovely Dacs in my CD player. There is a sound barrier that I just or just about to reach & pass beyond. Am I the only one? * But, it fascinate me in these days and ages, that people are still using analog connections! Would it be much easier to simply use the digital Coaxial or HDMI outputs and inputs to listen to CD 2-channel stereo? And with the advantage of using digital bass management? And also the advantage of a good digital room EQ? The sound quality doing it this way should be still significant enough and pleasant to make the jump, no? Any thoughts? It all depends on what you're connecting it to, I suppose. I doubt you'll find too many recievers or pre-amps that have superior DACs than what's found in the ERC-1 for two channel playback. I use analog outputs from the ERC-1 to analog inputs in my Outlaw 990 in direct mode (i.e., no processing done on the Outlaw). It sounds great hooked up this way. If you want to go the transport/DAC method, there are more expensive options out there that may not net you a whole lot. Using a receiver to do the DAC for CDs is the last place I'd do it, unless you have an old CD player with inferior DACs built in. Also keep in mind that jitter can be an issue, as well. A well designed CD player can deal with jitter internally. Bypassing the DACs may or may not impact this (depends on design). |
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Post by teedub21 on Feb 5, 2010 2:34:26 GMT -5
Any one compare the 83se to the erc1? I was debating on getting this player since it plays every disc out there. Figured I'd run the analog outs to my usp1 and the hdmi to my umc1 *when they show up that is.
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Post by glock3540 on Mar 1, 2010 13:55:48 GMT -5
Hi Guys,
I just ordered a BDP-83 last night. Now I can give my beloved PS3 a break and now use it just for games when the kids come over.
I also own appx 550 regular DVD's and look foward to the improved SD DVD picture quality
you guys have been talking about. (only a 100 or so Blu Rays but I am steadily adding! lol)
God Bless,
Brian
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Post by red5ive on Sept 7, 2010 14:34:16 GMT -5
I hate to dig up an old thread, but with the XDA-1 looming and me contemplating an ERC-1 or a BDP-83, what would be the best choice if either will be used as a CD transport to the XDA-1? I'm leaning toward the BDP-83 as a Uni player as it is also DLNA compliant and can stream from a media server. Any thoughts?
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