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Post by jgeiger on Feb 10, 2010 22:34:54 GMT -5
Tonight was my first full TV watching night since the update and for me, it was mixed.
My biggest issue before the upgrade was the loss of audio when pausing/ff my dvr. While it only happened once tonight, once is too often, so I'm a bit concerned.
Also, when turning off the system, the front panel showed "Power off" went blank, and never turned off. Repeated attempts to turn off via the remote failed, and I had to flip the hard switch in back...
I've also had other EmoQ issues that I've emailed support about directly...
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Post by jimbailey on Feb 10, 2010 22:55:17 GMT -5
Just thought I'd comment on EmoQ which I never ran until the update. I ran it 4 times to try to get it locked in, but the crossover and distance settings were out of whack every time. I adjusted the crossover settings and reduced the lowest frequency on all channels which were all set to +10, which sounded completely horrible. Once I made these tweaks everything just sounds PRISTINE. Also, the strange thing too is after 4 EmoQ runs the distances were all set greater than actual distance by as much as 3 feet! I couldn't accept this and kept going back within +/- 6" of the actual distance, and it just didn't sound right. Surround just didn't sound like surround, and there wasn't much of a sound field. I finally just set it back to the EmoQ values and low and behold I have a sweet sound field. I have no idea what's going on. Is EmoQ making that much of a room correction? This is similar to what mine is doing. Distances too long and whacko crossover settings. I did the same as what I think you did: went with the Emo-Q speaker EQs except for the low end. However, I did bring the distances down to the correct values. Hope it's not just display value anomaly. Some folks seem to be getting acceptable results. |
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Post by teknoid on Feb 10, 2010 23:52:22 GMT -5
First download works fine, on second, power cycles a few times and then 'no response'. Power cycled everything, no joy. Vista 32-bit. Tried gain tonight with my work Win7 32-bit laptop, same response *until* I plugged in the laptop. Now I get a raft of different errors: download code fail @ 0x600200! 2:36 into
33.4% FlashErase Fail 0x682c00 2:50 into
Download ISP Code File!
Since the UMC is now inop, I'll try the other laptop again (powered up) and then call Support for help/rma/pixie dust, etc... Not so popular with the wife at this point...  James |
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Post by sja69va on Feb 10, 2010 23:53:04 GMT -5
After many hours, staying up till 3 a.m. on a work night, I finally got my update to take after work tonight! I was able to get it to work on a Windows 7 Home Premium, 64-bit install.
Thanks to dima for the newer driver suggestion. I was stumped on the fact that only the SDK was being offered. You have to install the SDK to get at the driver install. I also ran the update after booting in Safe Mode with the wireless turned off going from about 12 processes running to only 5 including the installer. My USB cable was 3' long. With all this it still took numerous attempts and multiple receiver power downs/ups to force the installer to actually reinstall the firmware instead of repeating the test cycle. I hope this helps someone, especially the coders responsible for this PIA process.
The good news is how great my system sounds! I too am down a subwoofer (a replacement amp is on its way) so I have yet to run Emo-Q.
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Post by moe on Feb 11, 2010 0:14:47 GMT -5
I had a friend stop over this evening,he's a member here.He's been trying to update his UMC with no luck,64 bit Vista.We hooked it to my laptop(32 bit Vista) and it installed in about 7 minutes.It was much quicker than when I installed mine(since starting at step 6).The whole process is very simple,too bad different computer systems make it a hassle.
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Post by teknoid on Feb 11, 2010 0:50:02 GMT -5
First download works fine, on second, power cycles a few times and then 'no response'. Power cycled everything, no joy. Vista 32-bit. Tried gain tonight with my work Win7 32-bit laptop, same response *until* I plugged in the laptop. Now I get a raft of different errors: download code fail @ 0x600200! 2:36 into
33.4% FlashErase Fail 0x682c00 2:50 into
Download ISP Code File!
Since the UMC is now inop, I'll try the other laptop again (powered up) and then call Support for help/rma/pixie dust, etc... Not so popular with the wife at this point... James "Download Complete." - about _)(*& time. I don't think it is disabling anti-virus, bad cords, safe mode, not browsing, reboot between breaths - I think you just have to do it 2 7 - 1 times... though for the record, this was the first time I minimized the update program, laid my hand on top of the USB cable, and browsed my favorite Harley site during the update. So, take note those of you who are still having challenges ...  J |
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Post by hemster on Feb 11, 2010 0:52:05 GMT -5
Oh, so I need to browse the Harley site.. not Nina Hartley? So that's something to watch for when I do my update this weekend I guess! lol  |
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Post by brettjb on Feb 11, 2010 1:16:11 GMT -5
...though for the record, this was the first time I minimized the update program, laid my hand on top of the USB cable, and browsed my favorite Harley site during the update. So, take note those of you who are still having challenges ... J Glad you got it going, teknoid... FWIW, mine also finally worked the one time I was doing all sorts of things that we've been cautioned we shouldn't (browser was open, IM client running, no reboot, etc...) Maybe that's the key: distract the CPU, so it doesn't realize what it's doing until it's too late!  |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Feb 11, 2010 6:14:10 GMT -5
Oh, so I need to browse the Harley site.. not Nina Hartley? So that's something to watch for when I do my update this weekend I guess! lol I hear it goes faster if you browse a sports-bike site instead. ;D |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Feb 11, 2010 6:22:26 GMT -5
If it is consistanly reporting 250 for the fronts then that is what it is reading as a the first -3db. Becuase of the high xover on the mains it sets the sub to higher xover as well. Why would Emo-Q be looking for the first -3db point of a downward sweep? The goal is to find out how low the speakers can go, right? Shouldn't it be looking for the last -3db point? Plus, it would probably be better to look for a -9db point or something. Bad speakers and room modes could easily trigger a false -3db reading anywhere. - LoopinFool Agreed, I tried REW for the first time last night and found I had a -5db "flat valley" between 300 and 500hz or so. Yamaha YPAO does not set the x-over to 200 (highest it has) but to 100 (which I still find too high). I also see why I need a new sub, my ears were not lying to me - it has an 8db peak from about 60hz to 80hz (or perhaps that's overlap with the mains?) and pretty much nothing below 30.  Although my el-cheapo from the back of the shelf mic may not having been giving a proper picture - but it did seem to match up with my hearing. There was another drop around 5Khz. I fiddled with the PEQ manually for the front three (how do you get REW to send test for an individual speaker? If seems to just do L/R and sub) and now dialogue seems much clearer. Sorry for wandering off-topic. |
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Post by jmilton on Feb 11, 2010 7:26:39 GMT -5
See post #370 for pictures of EmoQ and my commentary.....
Direct all inquiries to my lawyer.
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Post by akbungle on Feb 11, 2010 8:36:04 GMT -5
Agreed, I tried REW for the first time last night and found I had a -5db "flat valley" between 300 and 500hz or so. Yamaha YPAO does not set the x-over to 200 (highest it has) but to 100 (which I still find too high). Although my el-cheapo from the back of the shelf mic may not having been giving a proper picture - but it did seem to match up with my hearing. There was another drop around 5Khz. I fiddled with the PEQ manually for the front three (how do you get REW to send test for an individual speaker? If seems to just do L/R and sub) and now dialogue seems much clearer. Sorry for wandering off-topic.Actually that is helpful. It reminds me to try this when I get my UMC-1 next week.  |
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Post by gocolts on Feb 11, 2010 9:20:22 GMT -5
A few commments and a question.
1) FW update went ok, and I know nothing about computers.
2) Dolby True HD via a Toshiba XA2 HD DVD player, being bitstreamed, loses the signal any time you forward ahead a chapter, so you have to choose a different input and go back to it with the UMC-1, and it picks it up again. Annoying, but I just switched the XA2 to output PCM and it doesn't do it...
What are people setting their subwoofer crossovers to? Mine won't let me set it to anything but some odd numbers that you have to hold down the arrows forever to even let me change. Same thing for the rear surround crossovers....
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Post by venaka on Feb 11, 2010 9:26:11 GMT -5
See post #370 for pictures of EmoQ and my commentary..... Direct all inquiries to my lawyer. very nice , I see you set your fronts to 80. I left mine # emoQ status. 120 for l/r and 130 for center. |
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Post by jimsfield on Feb 11, 2010 9:26:52 GMT -5
I successfully updated last night, through no fault of my own. I got different screens and messages than the instructions led me to anticipate. I even turned my laptop off during the updating process, not realizing where I was in the process. I turned it back on and reran the update and when it finished I pressed Mute, Status, Volume UP and voila! version 5.46.07.xxxxxx. The spelling of my inputs was garbled so I did a factory reset and input my settings. I lost audio sync once and had to reselect inputs to restore it. I’m going to run Emo Q this weekend. I may report back.
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Post by ratmice on Feb 11, 2010 9:34:21 GMT -5
Tonight was my first full TV watching night since the update and for me, it was mixed. My biggest issue before the upgrade was the loss of audio when pausing/ff my dvr. While it only happened once tonight, once is too often, so I'm a bit concerned. Also, when turning off the system, the front panel showed "Power off" went blank, and never turned off. Repeated attempts to turn off via the remote failed, and I had to flip the hard switch in back... I've also had other EmoQ issues that I've emailed support about directly... I have both these problems on a semi-regular basis: no sound after pause and not really turning off. Last night I also had the unit get stuck on stereo. What I mean by this is I was watching a DD 2.0 source on my cable box, I was filipping through the different DSP modes (DD, Neo, PlIIx etc...). When I got to stereo it would not let me change modes again. Had to power cycle to regain control. I didn't have the heart to run EMO-Q again because I didn't want to get frustrated. One other thing I don't understand is why many have to run it multiple times to get it dialed in. That makes no sense at all. It's not averaging, or anything like it. It should be a run once and you're good to go - or EMO should mention that you have to run it more than once. Crazy! |
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Post by jmilton on Feb 11, 2010 9:48:50 GMT -5
See post #370 for pictures of EmoQ and my commentary..... Direct all inquiries to my lawyer. very nice , I see you set your fronts to 80. I left mine # emoQ status. 120 for l/r and 130 for center. Actually, EmoQ set them at 80...which is my choice setting anyway. Was I lucky or what? |
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Post by Eskimo on Feb 11, 2010 12:14:49 GMT -5
Anyone else have issues with a PCM stream at 176.4 not playing audio via HDMI? (early PS3 playing a SACD, either 2 channel or multi-channel) I had to disable that in my PS3's setup menu, but it works fine at the next step down (88khz or whatever that is)
I noticed the UMC took a little longer to shut down, but it did fully power off after a bit (maybe 10-15 seconds)
I still have an issue with the subwoofer out being low on all sources, but EMO-Q did a better job this time by far. It reported my sub as being further away than it is, but I've got an EQ in-line with the sub amp, so I assume it's taking that delay into account.
I did have to drastically adjust the speaker levels manually though, but the EQ sounds pretty good so far.
And folks, let's not forget, most other processors make you re-setup **everything** from scratch when they're updated!! I don't mind re-labeling a few inputs.
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Post by ratmice on Feb 11, 2010 12:27:14 GMT -5
Anyone else have issues with a PCM stream at 176.4 not playing audio via HDMI? (early PS3 playing a SACD, either 2 channel or multi-channel) I had to disable that in my PS3's setup menu, but it works fine at the next step down (88khz or whatever that is) I noticed the UMC took a little longer to shut down, but it did fully power off after a bit (maybe 10-15 seconds) I still have an issue with the subwoofer out being low on all sources, but EMO-Q did a better job this time by far. It reported my sub as being further away than it is, but I've got an EQ in-line with the sub amp, so I assume it's taking that delay into account. I did have to drastically adjust the speaker levels manually though, but the EQ sounds pretty good so far. And folks, let's not forget, most other processors make you re-setup **everything** from scratch when they're updated!! I don't mind re-labeling a few inputs. Except that all the input settings are lost as well - audio/video setting , triggers etc... - at least when I did it. |
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Post by hikinokie on Feb 11, 2010 12:38:36 GMT -5
Does this thing work ok if you DON'T mess with the emo-q?
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