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Post by orange5814 on Feb 12, 2010 20:21:50 GMT -5
The speakers showing up that are not there is odd. I presume you are sure you or your dog/cat is not standing where the back speakers would be and being flatulent as the test runs.  Kidding aside...I do look forward to hearing what the story behind this is. After watching Lonnie's video's and learning how EMO-Q figures out the setting, the occasionally odd x-over settings make sense. But this no speaker but get a reco'd setting thing is odd. The couple times I ran it it was the left surround that was missing. When I went through the setup it showed that the back right and left were missing (which they should be) when reviewing the eq settings the back right had settings and the surround left didn't. My theory is the surround left setting got saved to the back right speaker, which makes sense cause the eq was similar to the surround right. I ran into the exact same situation with the EMO-Q setting the "back right" that does not exist. I have simply copied the settings from the " back right" and applied them to the "surround left" (which was completely flat). I had no problems updating to the new firmware, and I am really impressed with how well this thing sounds. I am going to do some manual RTA calculations and see how these compare to what EMO-Q has set. This should definitively tell me how accurate EMO-Q really is. The goal of the EQ is not to acheive a ruler flat response, but to tame the peaks, and smooth the curve. Getting rid of the "hot" frequencies by way of the EQ is far more noticeable than trying to boost the "dips." I feel that this is probably why most of what we are seeing on the EMO-Q freq. graphs is "cuts" across the spectrum. It appears that the only "boosted" frequencies are those that are either below the crossover frequency (L,R, C, SL, SR) or above the crossover frequency in the case of the subwoofer. After a bit of manual tweaking, I am extremely impressed witht the sound of the UMC-1. Thanks Emotiva. |
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Post by RSavage on Feb 12, 2010 21:49:34 GMT -5
LOL....I'd say that's an understatement in your case ;D Glad it's working for you....can't wait for mine to arrive early next week ! R |
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Post by Eskimo on Feb 13, 2010 0:28:13 GMT -5
Other than a few odd crossover settings, I'm pretty pleased how the Emo-Q helps the speakers blend nicely together.. It made a definite improvement. Now if someone could tell me what kind of tripod has that funky smaller thread in it for the Emo-Q mic?? I can't mount the mic anywhere..  |
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Post by ratmice on Feb 13, 2010 7:33:36 GMT -5
Other than a few odd crossover settings, I'm pretty pleased how the Emo-Q helps the speakers blend nicely together.. It made a definite improvement. Now if someone could tell me what kind of tripod has that funky smaller thread in it for the Emo-Q mic?? I can't mount the mic anywhere.. I'm so glad someone else mentioned this. I brought it up a couple of times already with noone responding. I guess you need a chinese tripod ;D |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Feb 13, 2010 8:10:03 GMT -5
What is the diameter of the mount? How about a picture?
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Feb 13, 2010 8:18:43 GMT -5
with the mic directed almost straight at the TV I wonder did the lab that calibrated the mic/EmoQ set it up this way by mistake? They might have a nice boom holder and can move the mic anyway they like and thought this was how it should be? Something that needs to be checked by Emotiva I think. Maybe those that got everything working well with the mic vertical could also run an EQ set with it pointed at the centre and see what they get/how it compares? Or perhaps there are different batches of mics shipped that are a bit different. All just pure speculation here. |
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Post by Bruce on Feb 13, 2010 9:53:22 GMT -5
I have a tripod to hook the mike up with an arm that swings and on the end of the arm it has a spring clip you use for the mike[puck] which you can adjust up and down.I have used it when i had my Integra 9.8 processor with AUD EQ system and had great results.I do not like AUD. EQ for my room and will not use EMO EQ as i have my room calibrated by Jeff Meirer at AccuCal and his calibrations are fantastic.I am sure you can GOOGLE and find the same kind of tripod i use as i have not seen my paperwork for purchase [Must have thrown out] This tripod i also use for maual calibration with my RADIO SHACK ANALOG METER with great results as i can position the arm were my head is in my sitting position.
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Post by ratmice on Feb 13, 2010 10:15:02 GMT -5
What is the diameter of the mount? How about a picture? No idea what the diameter is, but it's slightly smaller than a standard tripod mounting screw. Not sure that a picture would help - the mic is a 1-1/2" diameter "puck" with a threaded hole in the center of the bottom. |
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Post by Nemesis.ie on Feb 13, 2010 12:42:56 GMT -5
I mean what diameter is the threaded hole. Do you have a ruler?  |
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Post by jimbailey on Feb 13, 2010 13:07:36 GMT -5
I mean what diameter is the threaded hole. Do you have a ruler? Like ratmice said, it seems to be just slightly narrower than a standard tripod head screw but it may be just that the thread pitch is finer on the mic. Not sure measuring it with a ruler would help (it's ~3/16 in.). If I remember correctly, standard tripod screws are 10/24. I have screws that fit the Emo mic that came with audio gear for rack mounting that I believe are 10/32, but may be a closely-related metric size. Hope this helps. |
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Post by venaka on Feb 13, 2010 13:11:05 GMT -5
I mean what diameter is the threaded hole. Do you have a ruler? Right behindmy sitting position is a wall, I nailed the mic vertically on the wall centered facing my tv..Wow, Big, biG difference. To me the settings are better if you run it vertically..Has anyone ran it vertically. I was just placing it ontop of my couch, centered pretty much how the emoq video explained, but vertically i get better results. my fronts are 80 as opposed to 120 and up when i had the emoq sitting on top of couch. |
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Post by tangible on Feb 13, 2010 13:20:32 GMT -5
Standard fittings on tripod heads are 1/4-20 (consumer) and 3/8-16 (pro). Many tripods have reversible fittings which then allow for support of both sizes. Despite supposed metric world domination, main mounts remain English.
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Post by venaka on Feb 13, 2010 13:32:27 GMT -5
Standard fittings on tripod heads are 1/4-20 (consumer) and 3/8-16 (pro). Many tripods have reversible fittings which then allow for support of both sizes. Despite supposed metric world domination, main mounts remain English. ;-) or tape it on your forhead and sit on your couch |
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Post by jason1976 on Feb 13, 2010 13:39:29 GMT -5
I mean what diameter is the threaded hole. Do you have a ruler? Right behindmy sitting position is a wall, I nailed the mic vertically on the wall centered facing my tv..Wow, Big, biG difference. To me the settings are better if you run it vertically..Has anyone ran it vertically. I was just placing it ontop of my couch, centered pretty much how the emoq video explained, but vertically i get better results. my fronts are 80 as opposed to 120 and up when i had the emoq sitting on top of couch. Most of the cheaper mics don't do a good job pulling in sound from off axis angles, which might explain your results. Cudos for trying something different! |
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Post by jimbailey on Feb 13, 2010 13:45:01 GMT -5
Standard fittings on tripod heads are 1/4-20 (consumer) and 3/8-16 (pro). Many tripods have reversible fittings which then allow for support of both sizes. Despite supposed metric world domination, main mounts remain English. ;-) Yeah, 1/4-20, thanks for refreshing my memory. The (I think) 10-32 screws do fit the Emo mic, though. |
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Post by majestyk on Feb 13, 2010 16:58:34 GMT -5
Does one really need a tripod for EmoQ?
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Post by Pauly on Feb 13, 2010 17:08:00 GMT -5
Standard fittings on tripod heads are 1/4-20 (consumer) and 3/8-16 (pro). Many tripods have reversible fittings which then allow for support of both sizes. Despite supposed metric world domination, main mounts remain English. ;-) or tape it on your forhead and sit on your couch If anybody does this, I have to see pics! Too funny. |
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Post by aircav on Feb 13, 2010 17:52:55 GMT -5
Damn - tape. I came up with the forehead idea on my own but if I'd thought of tape it would have been a lot less painful than the nail
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Post by klinemj on Feb 13, 2010 17:55:09 GMT -5
My reco is to use double-sided tape for the forehead application to prevent the mic input from being covered by the tape. And, make sure to line your walls w/aluminum foil...it keeps the aliens from spying on you and reading your mind. (I have a friend who is a firefighter/paramedic, and he has some great stories on runs to people w/aluminum foil lined walls...)
Seriously though...it is interesting that venaka reports better results in his approach AND that Dan also stated in his video that he has it slightly forwardly inclined. Maybe there is something to this. I think I am going to try this on my Denon's Audyssey...I always get wacky results w/it and don't like its reco's.
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Post by venaka on Feb 13, 2010 18:06:22 GMT -5
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