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Post by moodyman on Feb 20, 2010 11:03:30 GMT -5
I can sadly confirm that the subwoofer equalizer has NO effect on the output of my subwoofer.
I used REW and ran sweeps from 20Hz to 150Hz. I used the right analog 2 input set to stereo. Crossover set to 80hz .I had the input set to use Manual-EQ slot 2. I had good sound coming out of the sub...but no matter what I did to the subwoofer sliders in the Manual-EQ slot2 the REW graph did not budge...I maxed them out at +10 and then put them to -10..no change to the REW graph. When I changed setting I made sure to back all the way out of the menu to make sure they "took"
I also ran sweeps from 500hz to 3Khz to see if the equalizer for the front right channel worked and they did.
If you think I missed something please point it out and I'll double check...I'm not looking to slam the UMC I just want it work...
I can work on posting pics of the REW graph...
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Post by bootman on Feb 20, 2010 11:34:16 GMT -5
Well this is disappointing.  This was one feature that I was really looking forward to. I assume you have the latest firmware installed. Pics would be most helpful to the Emotiva staff (and to us). Thanks |
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Post by moodyman on Feb 20, 2010 11:37:42 GMT -5
My FW was loaded by Emotiva before it shipped... I'm new to using REW so if anybody thinks I missed anything please say so.. For the uninitiated..the bottom numbers represent the frequency...the numbers on the left represent the amplitude of the signal in Db . As you can see the amplitude does not change even though I max out or minimize ( a 20Db difference) the frequencies bewteen 22-72 hz using the UMC subwoofer equalizer... Graph 1 No EMO-Q applied...  Manual EQ 2 applied +10 DB boost on sliders 22HZ-72Hz  Manual EQ 2 applied -10DB cut applied on sliders 22Hz-72Hz  |
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Post by moodyman on Feb 20, 2010 12:00:22 GMT -5
Same graphs...just more info...   |
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Post by bfisher on Feb 20, 2010 12:25:47 GMT -5
I dont yet have the UMC-1 to tell you if you are doing something wrong... however for your graphs, it's proper to show x axis in Log scale (hit the Freq Axis button on upper right iirc).
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Post by bobbart on Feb 20, 2010 12:27:08 GMT -5
Same problem mine had. One of the reasons I sent it back to be fixed. I wonder how many other people think their sub is being eq when it isn't actually doing anything. Is it a hardware or software problem? I'll be curious when I get mine back.
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Post by moodyman on Feb 20, 2010 12:28:28 GMT -5
I dont yet have the UMC-1 to tell you if you are doing something wrong... however for your graphs, it's proper to show x axis in Log scale (hit the Freq Axis button on upper right iirc). rgr....will the affect the results at all? |
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Post by bobbart on Feb 20, 2010 12:35:57 GMT -5
It shouldn't affect your results. You can clearly see from what you posted that the eq is not affecting the subwoofer at all. Same conclusion I came to.
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Post by DYohn on Feb 20, 2010 12:42:23 GMT -5
Did you save the EQ results into one of the memory registers than go back to the input setup to apply it?
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Post by ripcordaff on Feb 20, 2010 13:00:29 GMT -5
I can confirm that the sub EQ has no effects whatsoever on the sound. Here is an easy test. Use REW to generate a test tone at exactly one of the sub hz trim values (like 44 hz or something). While that sound is being generated, take that trim from +10 to -10. Nothing. No change in dbs. Disappointing...
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Post by moodyman on Feb 20, 2010 13:02:51 GMT -5
Did you save the EQ results into one of the memory registers than go back to the input setup to apply it? I kept making changes in Manual EQ 2 the whole time. I have the Analog 2 input set to use Manual EQ 2..stereo mode. After each change of the subwoofer equalizer I would back out of the menu's. What do you mean by "go back to the input setup to apply it" ?? |
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Post by bobbart on Feb 20, 2010 13:04:08 GMT -5
Have you guys called support? If so what did they say? I called support about this problem when I first got mine before the new firmware came out and I was told the new firmware would fix it. Obviously it didn't.
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Post by moodyman on Feb 20, 2010 13:07:24 GMT -5
To be clear..I'm NOT saying the value's EMO-Q come's up with aren't saved and applied. That may or may not work. But there is definitely an issue with the UMC saving any manual changes you may make to the sub EQ.
I have my EMO-Q results saved in Manual EQ 1. I can look into that later.
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Post by zductive on Feb 20, 2010 13:08:29 GMT -5
It would be appropriate for Dan or Lonnie to comment on this issue.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, we don't need someone saying it will be all right.
Can't we just get some idea of what problems E is working on and which ones they don't think are real.
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Post by DYohn on Feb 20, 2010 13:09:57 GMT -5
Did you save the EQ results into one of the memory registers than go back to the input setup to apply it? I kept making changes in Manual EQ 2 the whole time. I have the Analog 2 input set to use Manual EQ 2..stereo mode. After each change of the subwoofer equalizer I would back out of the menu's. What do mean by "go back to the input setup to aplly it" ?? Sounds like you did it the way I would. By "apply it" I mean exactly what it sounds like you did, which is to assign the EQ memory register to the input you're using. In my unit I could see the EQ adjustments happening in real time on my RTA in all bands, and yes I tested them all. If you're not seeing any EQ effect, then it sounds like you have a defect and an RMA issue just like Bob. Unfortunately.  |
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Post by moodyman on Feb 20, 2010 13:13:18 GMT -5
I kept making changes in Manual EQ 2 the whole time. I have the Analog 2 input set to use Manual EQ 2..stereo mode. After each change of the subwoofer equalizer I would back out of the menu's. What do mean by "go back to the input setup to aplly it" ?? Sounds like you did it the way I would. By "apply it" I mean exactly what it sounds like you did, which is to assign the EQ memory register to the input you're using. In my unit I could see the EQ adjustments happening in real time on my RTA in all bands, and yes I tested them all. If you're not seeing any EQ effect, then it sounds like you have a defect and an RMA issue just like Bob. Unfortunately. good info...just to be clear...when you adjust your subwoofer trims your 100% sure they are working?? |
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Post by DYohn on Feb 20, 2010 13:14:36 GMT -5
Sounds like you did it the way I would. By "apply it" I mean exactly what it sounds like you did, which is to assign the EQ memory register to the input you're using. In my unit I could see the EQ adjustments happening in real time on my RTA in all bands, and yes I tested them all. If you're not seeing any EQ effect, then it sounds like you have a defect and an RMA issue just like Bob. Unfortunately. good info...just to be clear...when you adjust your subwoofer trims your 100% sure they are working?? I am 100% sure. All the EQ bands have their intended effect. |
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Post by moodyman on Feb 20, 2010 13:15:30 GMT -5
Are you using REW or do you have another RTA? I will also call EMOTIVA on Monday.... OH..if anybody is interest here is a link to REW.. Room Equalization Wizard... www.hometheatershack.com/roomeq/ |
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Post by DYohn on Feb 20, 2010 13:23:31 GMT -5
Are you using REW or do you have another RTA? I will also call EMOTIVA on Monday.... OH..if anybody is interest here is a link to REW.. Room Equalization Wizard... www.hometheatershack.com/roomeq/REW is a great package. I use True RTA software with an Earthworks M30 mic through an M-Audio USB preamp. |
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Post by roadrunner on Feb 20, 2010 14:16:40 GMT -5
To be clear..I'm NOT saying the value's EMO-Q come's up with aren't saved and applied. That may or may not work. But there is definitely an issue with the UMC saving any manual changes you may make to the sub EQ. I have my EMO-Q results saved in Manual EQ 1. I can look into that later. Moodyman Just to be sure you are using the REW correctly, run the same test on your RF and RL speakers. You indicated that you were able to easily detect the changes when listening to those speakers. Make the changes and see what the REW graphs show. Then you will have confirmation that you are properly saving the setting and properly using the REW software. If this test confirms what you expect, then it would appear you have a hardware issue. Emotiva support should be able to advise you if my assumptions hold water. Good luck. ;D |
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