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XPA-100
Sept 4, 2012 2:17:40 GMT -5
Post by repeetavx on Sept 4, 2012 2:17:40 GMT -5
This last weekend Emotiva announced that there will be a new monoblock available.
According to an EMOFEST report by klinejm:
"...the XPA-100 (225 W into 8 ohms, 360 W) for $449. It is essentially a UPA-1 “on steroids” (Big Dan’s words)…it is single ended (not fully balanced). It was on exhibit and will be shipping ~9/15.""
I have a concern about mismatched power outputs in the different channels of a 5.1 or 7.1 home theater system, therefore I think this amp may have an important niche.
Since the XPA-3, XPA-5, and XPA-7 all have 200 watts into 8 ohms as their nominal output, I have a problem with pairing them with an XPA-1 or XPA-2 in a "matched" system.
It is my experience that if you bump up the gain of a lesser powered amp to "match" the output of a more powerful amp, all you get is a double mismatch. What I mean by that is that the low level content will be boosted to an unnaturally high level, and then it still won't be able to output on the high level past it's rated power.
For this reason using a pair of the newly announced XPA-100s for your stereo pair, and then using one of the above mentioned amps for the surrounds should be a very good match.
That is if the XPA-100 has the resolution and finesse that is equal to, and hopefully superior to, the resolution and finesse of the surround amps. Big Dan's comment that the XPA-100 will basically be "a UPA-1 “on steroids”" is intriguing but not very informative.
I find it interesting that for a product already in production and about to appear "in the shopping cart" that we don't have many more details. Now, I understand about surprises and confidentiality. but this amp was on display at EMOFEST. Ok, so it wasn't plugged in and demonstrated, but we're only days away from being able to purchase it.
So, ok, I'll sit back and wait for the exciting details about this potentially exciting product. I have an XPA-2 already, but I would like to move up to monoblocks and do it with a system that has matching output power.
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XPA-100
Sept 4, 2012 17:47:09 GMT -5
Post by frenchyfranky on Sept 4, 2012 17:47:09 GMT -5
I own XPA-1s and XPA-5 and it blended perfectly. They both have a 32dB gain, the different available power of both amps doesn't affected the sound gain level and the audible result in a very good blending. Excuse my English, I tried to be clear as possible.
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XPA-100
Sept 4, 2012 18:24:00 GMT -5
Post by repeetavx on Sept 4, 2012 18:24:00 GMT -5
Hi frenchyfranky,
I haven't had a chance to try two emotiva amps together.
My previous Home Theater amp was a Citation 7.1. It had four channels at 130 watts. At first I used it to power the three front channels and my reciever (80 watts per channel) to handle the rear surrounds. That produced the results that I mentioned in my first post. So I got a deal on a Parasound HCA-750A and used it for the center channel (bridged) and let the Citation handle the other four. Again I found the mismatch annoying.
Certainly I will use my XPA-2 as my mains when I buy a XPA-5 for my surrounds, I just suspected that it would have the same type of results. If it doesn't, then great. But if it does, then I'm going to be looking real hard at the XPA-100's; or a different surround amp.
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XPA-100
Sept 4, 2012 19:17:52 GMT -5
Post by paintedklown on Sept 4, 2012 19:17:52 GMT -5
I own XPA-1s and XPA-5 and it blended perfectly. They both have a 32dB gain, the different available power of both amps doesn't affected the sound gain level and the audible result in a very good blending. Excuse my English, I tried to be clear as possible. +1 I have the same amp combo and there was never an issue of them not playing well together. Their gain levels are the same, so the extra power provides more headroom and the ability to play louder without straining the amp. In summation, two amplifiers being fed the same signal will seem to be the same loudness if their gain levels are the same. If the gain levels of the amplifiers are different, then their input levels would have to be adjusted somewhere up the line (generally the trim levels on your processor) such as with room correction. Hope that helps.
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XPA-100
Sept 5, 2012 7:11:18 GMT -5
Post by briank on Sept 5, 2012 7:11:18 GMT -5
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XPA-100
Sept 5, 2012 7:14:14 GMT -5
Post by briank on Sept 5, 2012 7:14:14 GMT -5
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XPA-100
Sept 5, 2012 7:30:16 GMT -5
Post by geebo on Sept 5, 2012 7:30:16 GMT -5
I just picked up an XPA-2 at Emofest and can tell you that it works very nicely with my XPA-5.
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XPA-100
Sept 5, 2012 7:31:51 GMT -5
Post by eirik84 on Sept 5, 2012 7:31:51 GMT -5
Nice picture Is that a "Tiffany-style" RCA-connector? Seems to be better quality than the ones on the UPA-series
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XPA-100
Sept 5, 2012 8:30:20 GMT -5
Post by eirik84 on Sept 5, 2012 8:30:20 GMT -5
Did you see if the XPA-200 had the same type of rca-connectors as the XPA-100 ?
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XPA-100
Sept 5, 2012 8:59:40 GMT -5
Post by jackfish on Sept 5, 2012 8:59:40 GMT -5
So much a prototype that it has an XPA-100 faceplate, but a UPA-1 back panel?
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XPA-100
Sept 10, 2012 5:28:07 GMT -5
Post by eirik84 on Sept 10, 2012 5:28:07 GMT -5
So much a prototype that it has an XPA-100 faceplate, but a UPA-1 back panel? That is not a UPA-1 backplate, maybe its a typo on the modelnumber? Here is a pic of the UPA-1s backplate: Very much the same, but the RCA-input is upgraded - So i dont think this is just a prototype
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XPA-100
Sept 10, 2012 6:07:56 GMT -5
Post by Nemesis.ie on Sept 10, 2012 6:07:56 GMT -5
Nice picture Is that a "Tiffany-style" RCA-connector? Seems to be better quality than the ones on the UPA-series Well the RCA is definitely on steroids and great to see versus the very flimsy one on the UPA-1.
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XPA-100
Sept 10, 2012 6:51:34 GMT -5
Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 10, 2012 6:51:34 GMT -5
The XPA-200 times three would be perfect to power my:
1/ Back Surrounds L+R 2/ Left Height + Left Wide 3/ Right Height + Right Wide.
Same gain as the XPR-5 and plenty of power for the 95 dB speakers. Unless the RMC-1 would be 9.3 in which case I'd need only two (+ three sub amps)
Anyone know if the 1000 Watt sub amps will be 2RU or only 1RU (possible since I presume these will be class D)
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XPA-100
Sept 11, 2012 11:08:41 GMT -5
Post by sharkman on Sept 11, 2012 11:08:41 GMT -5
So this new amp will be released on Sept 15(4 days) and there is next to no information about it except that it will be like a UPA-1 on steroids. It appears that Emotiva doesn't know anything about this amp yet, or they would have released much more information about it. It was much the same story with the UPA-500 release, although they did have a little more info for that amp.
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Post by ansat on Sept 11, 2012 13:41:04 GMT -5
2Ru and will be bridgable 2x500. Not 2 ohm stable
sent from my phone. sorry for the short response
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XPA-100
Sept 11, 2012 13:50:04 GMT -5
Post by UT-Driven on Sept 11, 2012 13:50:04 GMT -5
So much a prototype that it has an XPA-100 faceplate, but a UPA-1 back panel? If I was to hazard a guess, the face plate was signed off earlier than the back plate as they knew nothing was changing, so they had the silkscreening done in time for the prototypes. Doug
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XPA-100
Sept 11, 2012 13:50:44 GMT -5
Post by jackfish on Sept 11, 2012 13:50:44 GMT -5
So much a prototype that it has an XPA-100 faceplate, but a UPA-1 back panel? That is not a UPA-1 backplate, maybe its a typo on the modelnumber? Here is a pic of the UPA-1s backplate: Very much the same, but the RCA-input is upgraded - So i dont think this is just a prototype But it IS a UPA-1 backplate. Only the RCA jack looks different. Probably just put the XPA-100 guts in a UPA-1 chassis, and put an XPA-100 face plate on it. So, what we see is a prototype otherwise it would say XPA-100 on the back. Prototype is likely because they do not have the new chassis built for it yet.
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XPA-100
Sept 11, 2012 14:22:15 GMT -5
Post by chaosrv on Sept 11, 2012 14:22:15 GMT -5
Why would they need to design a new chassis? Just change the lettering on the back to read UPA-100. Designing a new chassis for a product that can obviously use the existing one would only prolong development and increase costs. Plus using the existing chassis would mean less retooling at the factory...again saving time & costs.
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XPA-100
Sept 11, 2012 14:33:37 GMT -5
Post by Dr. Feel Good on Sept 11, 2012 14:33:37 GMT -5
who cares about the back plate in this picture. no one is getting this amp, the one anyone orders will have the "correct" back plate and for sure the correct guts. Power...Quality.. unlimited RMS Clean Wattage...that is what matters.. not what it says on the back of the prototype! Now...lets get this puppy on the site so it can be purchased and reviewed
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XPA-100
Sept 11, 2012 15:42:22 GMT -5
Post by Erwin.BE on Sept 11, 2012 15:42:22 GMT -5
2Ru and will be bridgable 2x500. Not 2 ohm stable sent from my phone. sorry for the short response Thanks! I like short answers!
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