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May 9, 2010 1:13:14 GMT -5
Post by MukAudio on May 9, 2010 1:13:14 GMT -5
Lower gain would probably be a good thing. I imagine most buyers are going to be pairing an XPR amp with a quality pre-amp or pre/pro, so they won't need gobs of gain. The ERC-1 throws out a pretty high voltage signal, and I think the USP-1 might as well, so you've got plenty of voltage by the time you hit the amplifier.
Mark.
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XPR-2
May 9, 2010 3:27:00 GMT -5
Post by bigred7078 on May 9, 2010 3:27:00 GMT -5
I'm intrigued by the announcement in the podcast of an XPR-2. 2 x 500W. Wonder how it is going to compare to the XPA-1. I thought I heard the XPR series would be Emo's flagship series, so I am very curious to hear more about what makes these amps so special... Mark. I believe Big Dan said the XPR 2 was 500 into 4 ohms where the XPA 1 is 500 into 8. Hopefully that gain will be simmered down. ;D I thought he said 500 into 8ohms? Am I mistaken?
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May 9, 2010 4:53:46 GMT -5
Post by eirik84 on May 9, 2010 4:53:46 GMT -5
I believe Big Dan said the XPR 2 was 500 into 4 ohms where the XPA 1 is 500 into 8. Hopefully that gain will be simmered down. ;D I thought he said 500 into 8ohms? Am I mistaken? Yes, he says 2x500 watts into 8 ohms and started saying what the 4 ohm-spec would be, but he stopped. So XPR-2 = 2 x 500 watts into 8 ohms
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May 9, 2010 7:08:02 GMT -5
Post by pczach on May 9, 2010 7:08:02 GMT -5
I believe Big Dan said the XPR 2 was 500 into 4 ohms where the XPA 1 is 500 into 8. Hopefully that gain will be simmered down. ;D I thought he said 500 into 8ohms? Am I mistaken? I thought that's what I heard too. He also said 4 ohm power would be ridiculous. Now that's what I'm talkin' about!
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May 9, 2010 7:59:26 GMT -5
Post by RadTech on May 9, 2010 7:59:26 GMT -5
Big Dan said all the XPR specs at the 8:16 mark on podcast two . He gives a run down of the XPR line up and, he says 8 but, then he quickly changed to 4. This just my interpretation of what I heard, don't get a rope. I could be wrong and, I hope I am but, I didn't hear a definitive 2 X 500 into 8 ohm. It would make sense that it was 8 because, he said the XPR 7 would be 300 conservatively. If it is 2 X 500 into 8 that may be my next amp. ;D
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May 9, 2010 8:20:18 GMT -5
Post by sebastianr on May 9, 2010 8:20:18 GMT -5
I'm a little surprised (and disappointed) that there is a big difference between what was at Emofest and what looks to be the release model for the XPR-7. During Emofest, Big Dan said that the prototype unit, which was on display, had tested out on the AP Tester at 465 W at 8 Ohms and 750 W at 4 Ohms. That information was then restated on the Emonatics website. And even the article from Home Theater HiFi stated that, "it will deliver 400 watts into 8 ohms with all channels driven." Now in the most recent pod-cast, he is saying that it will be 300 W at 8 Ohms (yes, conservatively), but that is still a big difference. Anyway, I am a little disappointed but I guess that is the difference between prototypes and commercial release models. I still eagerly await the release of the XPR-7 and have reserved space on my rack for it.
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May 9, 2010 9:47:07 GMT -5
Post by ajani on May 9, 2010 9:47:07 GMT -5
I thought he said 500 into 8ohms? Am I mistaken? I thought that's what I heard too. He also said 4 ohm power would be ridiculous. Now that's what I'm talkin' about! Yep... I just listened again... It sounds like he said 500 into 8 ohms and then that the 4 ohm power would be ridiculous... So that should make the XPR-2 comparable with the XPA-1s... So I suppose you'd buy one if you'd rather have a stereo amp than a pair of monoblocks (and presumably to save a few dollars)...
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May 9, 2010 9:55:45 GMT -5
Post by RadTech on May 9, 2010 9:55:45 GMT -5
I guess the next question is will it have meters? A nice pair of big analogs! ;D
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May 9, 2010 13:57:38 GMT -5
Post by asterisk * on May 9, 2010 13:57:38 GMT -5
XPR-3 is what I would like to hear about !!!!
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May 9, 2010 14:38:26 GMT -5
Post by Pauly on May 9, 2010 14:38:26 GMT -5
Yes, I would love to see them go with a big set of analog meters as well. But then all the haters would say that Emo is just copying Mac gear lol
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May 9, 2010 14:47:50 GMT -5
Post by SticknStones on May 9, 2010 14:47:50 GMT -5
I have not bought my 2 channel amp yet and still waiting on the XMC plus I am going to upgrade my mains from the B&W 804N to the new 803 Diamond series. I am of course intrigued on this as I was already gunning for the XPA-2 and now may need to reload.
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May 9, 2010 14:48:03 GMT -5
Post by RadTech on May 9, 2010 14:48:03 GMT -5
I'm intrigued by the announcement in the podcast of an XPR-2. 2 x 500W. Wonder how it is going to compare to the XPA-1. I thought I heard the XPR series would be Emo's flagship series, so I am very curious to hear more about what makes these amps so special... Mark. I believe Big Dan said the XPR 2 was 500 into 4 ohms where the XPA 1 is 500 into 8. Hopefully that gain will be simmered down. ;D Sorry Mark, it was a little hard to hear. ;D
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May 9, 2010 16:01:48 GMT -5
Post by MukAudio on May 9, 2010 16:01:48 GMT -5
I believe Big Dan said the XPR 2 was 500 into 4 ohms where the XPA 1 is 500 into 8. Hopefully that gain will be simmered down. ;D Sorry Mark, it was a little hard to hear. ;D haha, no problem. I wasn't positive on the number either, that's why I wasn't arguing with you at all. The number is no biggie to me, as anything above 300 watts in 8 ohms will be plenty for the speakers I want to own, let alone the ones I already have. Mark.
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May 9, 2010 21:30:06 GMT -5
Post by strindl on May 9, 2010 21:30:06 GMT -5
It seems like it's going to be pretty similar to the MPS and RPA amps. So wouldn't that mean monoblock design into one chassis, with separate transformers per channel? I need to look at the retired gear to see if that's what they were. If that's the case, then I'm all for it. The MPS and RPA amps used separate toroidal transformers for each channel
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May 9, 2010 23:03:18 GMT -5
Post by Pauly on May 9, 2010 23:03:18 GMT -5
That's what I thought, thanks strindl.
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May 10, 2010 20:29:46 GMT -5
Post by roadrunner on May 10, 2010 20:29:46 GMT -5
Based on what we learned about the XPR-7 at Emofest, it would be hard to believe that the XPR-2 would possibly have less than 500 W/ch into 8 Ohms. The podcast stated that the XPR-2 would have a 3 KW power transformer. Do the math. The XPR-7 was stated to have a 3.5 KW transformer for 7 channels and was testing out at nearly 370 W/ch at 8 Ohms. It would be very hard not to expect 500+ W/ch at 8 Ohms.
If it is really coming in less than 500 W, Emotiva has intentionally made a decision to limit its power output. With the XPR-7 Big Dan was advising that anyone buying it have a 230 V circuit installed to power it. Maybe Emotiva decided to limit the power output to allow using 120 V circuits to power it. Then again, being the "'premier line" of amps, the XPR's needing 230 V circuits may be an acceptable caveat. ;D Food for thought...
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May 11, 2010 1:17:00 GMT -5
Post by tonymc on May 11, 2010 1:17:00 GMT -5
I guess the next question is will it have meters? A nice pair of big analogs! ;D I agree. RPA revisited. ;D Dan we need some analog gauges.
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May 11, 2010 1:18:36 GMT -5
Post by edoggrc51 on May 11, 2010 1:18:36 GMT -5
+1 on the gauges. ;D
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May 20, 2010 4:45:08 GMT -5
Post by brand450 on May 20, 2010 4:45:08 GMT -5
I also support the use of analog meters
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May 20, 2010 16:11:29 GMT -5
Post by thorcorps on May 20, 2010 16:11:29 GMT -5
As long as they don't affect the sound quality in any measurable way, since that's what this amp is about.......
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