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Post by Showtyme on Oct 23, 2010 15:52:37 GMT -5
Hi All!!  My Present system...... Optoma HD20 projector Yamaha DSP A1 sony dvd soon upgrading to br Paradigm Studio 100 Paradigm CC350 Paradigm Studio 60 Paradigm PW2200 Room is in lower level of home. 40 ft by 20ft. 9 ft ceilings Wet bar in one corner wood burning fireplace in other corner. Movies 60% Music 40% like loud clear music sometimes  Definetely want mono amps! Either 5 XPA1 or 5 UPA1 Will upgrade to UMC 1 when purchase amps.... Can I use power bar for amps at present time till I upgrade electrical? There are two circuits for room so I could use amps on both circuits. Two power bars. I want lots of power so not need to upgrade amps in future. Upgraditis has definetely come into my life  Any suggestions welcome |
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Post by ngmitter on Oct 23, 2010 16:24:55 GMT -5
Hey there. My setup is quite similar to yours, so I may be able to help. - UMC-1 feeding the following:
- Front: Studio 100 v3, each powered by UPA-1
- Center: Studio CC570 v3, powered by a UPA-1
- Rear: Studio 40 v3, powered by a UPA-2
My room is approximately 20' x 22' with a 16' vaulted ceiling. My living room is also open to a 16' x 14' kitchen through a large walkway and window (no glass, but not sure of the architectural term). So, I have a fairly large volume like yourself. I can play my stereo at deafening levels, and the amps don't break a sweat. They still run cool and sound phenomenal. I know I definitely don't need any more power than what they provide. I don't see how the XPA-1 is worth over double the cost. |
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Post by Showtyme on Oct 23, 2010 18:02:37 GMT -5
Hi thx for reply Hmmm but xpa 1 for more then double the power of the upa 1 that much power. Yaaaaaaaaa  My room is theatre room only. Doors to close off room Glass lots on one side of room. Actually all glass controlled by blinds |
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Post by Showtyme on Oct 23, 2010 18:42:04 GMT -5
Another question I have......
In terms of clarity of sound, will the upa 1 be that much more noticeable than the power from the dspa1?
That's why I was thinking of just going gusto and get the xpa 1s. That way for sure the sound quality loudness and clarity should be night and day!
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Post by ocezam on Oct 24, 2010 9:41:33 GMT -5
If you've got the money, to me, it's a no brainer. Always go for more power. I read lots of guys doing the math on threads like this one and stating things like "you don't need that much power. It's only + 3 or 4 decibels, can't hardly tell." Or sometimes, "the lower power amp can go to 110 decibels, who'd ever go louder than that?"
It's seldom about peak volume. It's about control. Usually the higher power amp will hold the speakers tighter and better sound will result.
Yes with everything audio, there is always a point of diminishing returns. Where that point is, is up to you and your wallet. The DSP A1 had very good amps in it. Much better than whats found in most of todays AVR's. I believe the UPA-1's would be a big step up from what you now have. The XPA-1's will annihilate the amps in your AVR.
If I were in the market, and I could get it past my wife, no question - XPA-1's in a heartbeat.
Heck, If I could get 'em past my wife, I would be in the market.
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Post by jimi on Oct 24, 2010 10:58:03 GMT -5
Just to add my $0.02
Yes, you get more power.
Which equals more volume, and control of your speakers for bass and across the freq range (esp if your spkr impedance dips over the range and is more difficult to drive).
Aside from power, its how the amp is made technically. Hifi amps can cost thousands of dollars but only output 80W.
The XPA1s are so good I use them with my Focal 1027 Beryllium speakers in my hifi only system. Very wide and deep soundstage. They seem to be very sensitive to my front end- the better my preamp and cd player the better the sound is.
If you can afford the space (and the heat) go for it, they are great value for money!
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Post by ottaone on Oct 24, 2010 11:55:27 GMT -5
XPA-1s and never have to buy amps again ... until Emo sells 2,000 watt XPA-1s. |
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Post by Showtyme on Oct 24, 2010 16:46:31 GMT -5
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Post by NorthStar on Oct 24, 2010 20:48:49 GMT -5
^ You'd be set for life dear Canadian brother from Vancouver! * Pssst, add a second sub too! It would also be a major Audio improvement. And if I may, look at pre/pros that have Audyssey MultEQ XT32 (or at least XT). Cheers, Bob (from across the Strait of Georgia) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2010 21:07:45 GMT -5
why don't you get 3 xpa-1's and 2 upa-1's for the surrounds? or is it you want all the same?
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Post by Showtyme on Oct 24, 2010 21:34:30 GMT -5
Lord of the rings. Hello fellow Canadian! Hmm well Im thinking most of the bugs are out of the umc 1 and also for the price I don't think it can b beat As for 3 xpa 1s and 2 upa 1s hmmmm yes I've thought of that combo My reasons for all xpa1s... Cool factor ;D No need to upgrade amps again unless one amp dies I have full range speakers all around. Studio 100 cc350 studio 60s in rear Either purchase is gonna b expensive so my thought is if going in this deep might as well go all out |
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Post by Showtyme on Oct 24, 2010 21:41:55 GMT -5
Sorry N8DOGG Just notice to yur another fellow canadian too! Greetings! |
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Post by ottaone on Oct 24, 2010 21:56:17 GMT -5
showtyme, i'm guessing that you can save tons in shipping by driving across the border for the pick-up. Savings might be equivalent to two ultra subs (good idea as suggested above). Just ensure that you got a pick up truck or a minivan. My son and I picked up 11 items during the july 4th sale in our SUV and just barely fit everything. |
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Post by Showtyme on Oct 24, 2010 22:10:38 GMT -5
Nope tiny car and no time to do that.....
Hmmm as for two subs? Nice suggestion. Would it have to b another paradigm pw2200?
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Post by Pauly on Oct 24, 2010 22:17:22 GMT -5
It wouldn't have to be the same sub, but I would definitely recommend that it be the same.
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Post by stiehl11 on Oct 24, 2010 22:19:33 GMT -5
I would recommend the same type of sub or at least one that has the same performance range. Like speakers, subs have individual voices and when you have 2 dissimilar voices you can tell there's 2 instead on hearing only one.
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Post by Showtyme on Oct 25, 2010 1:01:58 GMT -5
yes thats what I was thinking same sub.....well that will be down the road ...perhaps
Thnx for all the suggestions and comments......lots of info!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2010 2:04:07 GMT -5
I think any way you go, it's gonna be badass |
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Post by Showtyme on Oct 25, 2010 3:06:24 GMT -5
That is my hope ;D I have never had the opportunity to go with separates till now Emotiva gives me the opportunity to do this. Yes it will still cost lots but not nearly as much as high end separates !!! Just have to wait to see what charges will be to get gear to my place |
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Post by NorthStar on Oct 25, 2010 3:32:26 GMT -5
I think any way you go, it's gonna be badass Me two, I think the same goddamn thing! ;D * And eventually down the road, another Paradigm PW2200 sub! Hey, what Canadian brothers wouldn't do for each other!... |
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