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Post by beastcs1 on Nov 25, 2010 21:07:39 GMT -5
Hey, So I been learning a lot, very quickly by using the forums thus far and I am very thankful! I still need some clarity on a remaining point and I wanted to start a new thread. --------------------------------------------- My Speakers: --------------------------------------------- 1.) Left/Right: Martin Logan Purities 2.) Center: Martin Logan Motif 3.) Surrounds: Martin Logan Helos 100 --------------------------------------------- My Questions: --------------------------------------------- Do I buy an XPA-5 to enhance all 5 of these speakers? or Do I buy 3x UPA-1's just to enhance my Left/Right/Center? --------------------------------------------- Couple Points: --------------------------------------------- 1.) I am interested in the most power/clarity for the buck. 2.) I am still learning so go easy on me 3.) I am more a Home Theater guy than a Music listening guy. 4.) I sit 19 feet away from speakers, room opens to a kitchen to my left and exterior wall w/ two windows to my right. I have two windows on my right wall and a big window behind my head. My subwoofer will be in the back right corner on my side of the room (only place for it). Carpet floors. Microfiber couch. --------------------------------------------- Thanks, Thomas Gray
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Post by niceguyedy on Nov 25, 2010 21:17:26 GMT -5
Without a doubt, you will see more power and clarity using mono block amps such as the UPA-1's. However, using a multi channel amp is a great way to go as well. As I've recently discovered there is some crosstalk between the channels on the multi-channel amps, however, it is minimal! If you're a purist and listen to a lot of 2 channel music, go with the mono-blocks, if it's home theater you're after, I'd go with a multi-channel amp.
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Post by beastcs1 on Nov 25, 2010 21:23:23 GMT -5
I should most certainly mention that I am a "Home Theater" guy. Great point!
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Post by wizardofoz on Nov 25, 2010 23:35:24 GMT -5
I would err on the side of power and go upa-1's for LCR and perhaps a upa-2 for the surrounds...but that's just me That is coming from a upa-7 that is in my setup to the above...I found 7.1 a bit restrictive content wise...
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Post by ntrain42 on Nov 26, 2010 0:41:09 GMT -5
The XPA-5 is an excellent HT amp. Yes, it has some crosstalk, but for movies and casual 2 channel audio its irrelevant, especially if thats what the majority of its use is gonna be. But if you plan on doing alot of critical 2 channel music listening, then I'd go with something like a pair of UPA-1's and an XPA-3(center and surrounds). Or if money is not an issue, do ALL UPA-1 monoblocks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2010 1:31:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure if all of you are familiar with the ML Purities. FYI and clarification they include their own dedicated amp. I think what the OP wants to know is would he be better off using a separate Emo amp and which one versus the dedicated ML amp in the speaker. Perhaps it would have been better to have one single thread only rather than have started three separate threads in three days on the same basic question. www.martinlogan.com/products/purity
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Post by beastcs1 on Nov 26, 2010 6:56:08 GMT -5
Hey,
I understand that the purities are powered and don't need an Amp. BUT there were some threads around the fact that the purities' internal Amp is a "switching" amp ... therefore an external eMotiva might be better suited.
"The amps in your Martin Logan's are switching amps. I feel confident you'll be a lot happier with UPA-1's or any XPA amp.
Personally, I wouldn't skimp with those speakers. I'd hop all over 2 XPA-1's. With the holiday sale they are only $1660 shipped! Your Purities will absolutely come alive with these amps!!! Let the receiver run the rest or buy UPA amps down the road. Yeah I know... twice the cost of an XPA-5 mentioned in your original post. If you can swing it financially (aren't your speakers over 3K/pair?) I think you'll be very happy you did."
Thanks, Thomas Gray
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Post by ocezam on Nov 26, 2010 10:43:54 GMT -5
I agree with chuckienut. Your answers will be the same as they were in the other threads.
There are lots of pages of info on this board. Do yourself a favor, take a few days and read through them (I did). You'll learn a lot, and in my case, I enjoyed it a lot.
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Post by Mischief on Nov 26, 2010 10:48:07 GMT -5
If you are a serious 2 channel enthusiast then mono's are the way to go. If you are heavily an HT guy there is really no need to get into mono-blocks, something like the XPA-5 is a superb multi with more than enough juice to bring any movie to life.
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Post by altpensacola on Nov 26, 2010 12:20:40 GMT -5
Without a doubt, you will see more power and clarity using mono block amps such as the UPA-1's. However, using a multi channel amp is a great way to go as well. As I've recently discovered there is some crosstalk between the channels on the multi-channel amps, however, it is minimal! If you're a purist and listen to a lot of 2 channel music, go with the mono-blocks, if it's home theater you're after, I'd go with a multi-channel amp. the amount of Crosstalk is not an issue, as the other thread clearly stated
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Post by Porscheguy on Nov 26, 2010 12:23:47 GMT -5
They are all good.......... and I'm in a position to say that :-)
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Post by niceguyedy on Nov 26, 2010 17:35:54 GMT -5
Without a doubt, you will see more power and clarity using mono block amps such as the UPA-1's. However, using a multi channel amp is a great way to go as well. As I've recently discovered there is some crosstalk between the channels on the multi-channel amps, however, it is minimal! If you're a purist and listen to a lot of 2 channel music, go with the mono-blocks, if it's home theater you're after, I'd go with a multi-channel amp. the amount of Crosstalk is not an issue, as the other thread clearly stated, yet you bring it up again? Sometime's I'm not very friendly, and I apologize.
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Post by kse on Nov 26, 2010 21:18:24 GMT -5
Honestly, any combo will sound great. However, as mentioned earlier........(and so you don't second guess yourself down the road), go with two UPA-1s for L/R and an XPA-3 for C/RS/LS.
Great for HT and you have your monoblocks for great 2ch. stereo. That is my set-up exactly, and I love it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2010 1:28:36 GMT -5
OK, no more cross talk in this thread! ;D
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Post by niceguyedy on Nov 27, 2010 1:37:40 GMT -5
OK, no more cross talk in this thread! ;D Nice!
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Post by beastcs1 on Nov 27, 2010 7:31:23 GMT -5
When it pertains to power. My Panamax Powercenter will be around 12 feet away from 1 of my purities so I will NOT be able to plug it into a High Current bank. There is a wall outlet directly behind this speaker ... What can I do to get the right power to this device?
I have also been told NOT to connect the Emotiva into a powercenter but rather ... directly into the wall. Is this true?
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Post by Porscheguy on Nov 27, 2010 9:11:23 GMT -5
When it pertains to power. My Panamax Powercenter will be around 12 feet away from 1 of my purities so I will NOT be able to plug it into a High Current bank. There is a wall outlet directly behind this speaker ... What can I do to get the right power to this device? I have also been told NOT to connect the Emotiva into a powercenter but rather ... directly into the wall. Is this true? Emo amps are internally protected from all fault events. They want you to plug it into the wall so it won't be starved for current. Or get on of these: www.psaudio.com/ps/products/detail/juicebar-ii
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