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Post by flyhigh on Apr 9, 2011 11:46:04 GMT -5
I've been using a set of the Emotiva "X" interconnects (1m) in my set up for several weeks. They seem to work quite well, but I really don't have anything else here to compare them with.
Off the cuff, I feel that there may be a "something" slightly rolled in the very top end that lends to a bit of sweetness. A sort of "roundness" of tone that I keep hearing. It could just be me too.
I'd be curious to hear what others think of them.
-Fly
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Post by briank on Apr 9, 2011 12:46:55 GMT -5
Very good ic's and I have also heard that "sweetness" that you mentioned but I've never thought of them being rolled off on the top end. Good tone, good dynamics. One of the best choices in that price range. They do have a little bit of grain to them though and this is were they lose out to better and much more expensive ic's. The Blue Jeans LC-1 is smoother but it's also flatter sounding and a little darker than the X-series. Just have to experiment and see what you like and what works best in your system. It's a synergy thing. :-). Audiogon us a great place to get good deals on some of the more expensive cables. Selling my 1 meter Zu Varial RCA's for $285 if you want to try 'em. Definitely no roll off with them and very dynamic. ;-)
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Post by Mischief on Apr 9, 2011 12:59:57 GMT -5
I like the sound and look of the X's but I have had several fail after 6 months and it is too much hassle to send them back
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Post by iceman66 on Apr 9, 2011 13:02:59 GMT -5
I like the sound and look of the X's but I have had several fail after 6 months and it is too much hassle to send them back How did they fail? Short? Open? The 'veil' returned?
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Post by briank on Apr 9, 2011 13:47:13 GMT -5
Dog chew toy? :-)
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Post by flyhigh on Apr 9, 2011 15:48:32 GMT -5
OK...I guess the next time I'm back in the States I'll have to get a 1m set of my normal interconnect...if for no other reason than to have a familiar benchmark by which to "compare" the Emo-X product. For the record, I really do NOT believe in cable magic. I know which ones I like,(all from proaudio/broadcast) but they're not "audiophile enough" to bandy about online. I'd get voted off the island for sure!! The Emo's work good. No complaints, but because it can be so hard to have things reliably sent here...I had to get something decent within a tight window of opportunity when I was back in the states. Emo came thru for me there. I'm eager to simply hear about what others think about the Emos. We can compare notes. Thanks as always... PS: If anyone has an accurate capacitance measurement (pf/M) on the Emo-X's....I'd like to see it.
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Post by solarrdadd on Apr 9, 2011 20:32:22 GMT -5
is it not enough that you have purchased cables that are of good quality and work well?
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Post by Mischief on Apr 9, 2011 20:35:53 GMT -5
I like the sound and look of the X's but I have had several fail after 6 months and it is too much hassle to send them back How did they fail? Short? Open? The 'veil' returned? Complete fail. I thought I was having the dreaded channel drops on the UMC but turned out to be bad cables. I haven't taken them apart to see what happened though.
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Post by flyhigh on Apr 9, 2011 21:17:09 GMT -5
is it not enough that you have purchased cables that are of good quality and work well? They are of good quality, and they do work well IMO. It seemed to me that the Emotiva forum would be an ideal place to compare our opinions of an Emo product. Yes, it was "enough" that they're nice ICs, and I don't need anyone's affirmation to convince me that my $38/pr was reasonably well spent. By the same token, we could all purchase our equipment, and then hunker down with our opinions kept under a blanket...but that sort of takes away from the fun of all this. Yes? If it's bothersome to discuss "accessories" in the accessories forum, then perhaps the reader can simply move on to something more interesting to them. Sorry if I've wasted anyone's time with such a ridiculous topic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2011 23:32:19 GMT -5
is it not enough that you have purchased cables that are of good quality and work well? They are of good quality, and they do work well IMO. It seemed to me that the Emotiva forum would be an ideal place to compare our opinions of an Emo product. Yes, it was "enough" that they're nice ICs, and I don't need anyone's affirmation to convince me that my $38/pr was reasonably well spent. By the same token, we could all purchase our equipment, and then hunker down with our opinions kept under a blanket...but that sort of takes away from the fun of all this. Yes? If it's bothersome to discuss "accessories" in the accessories forum, then perhaps the reader can simply move on to something more interesting to them. Sorry if I've wasted anyone's time with such a ridiculous topic. You haven't wasted my time. I like reading this one. The X Series IC's worked great for me but at the moment i am using Zu Audio IC's, which can be had for a lot cheaper (than retail) on Zu Audio's eBay page
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Post by solarrdadd on Apr 10, 2011 8:27:54 GMT -5
is it not enough that you have purchased cables that are of good quality and work well? They are of good quality, and they do work well IMO. It seemed to me that the Emotiva forum would be an ideal place to compare our opinions of an Emo product. Yes, it was "enough" that they're nice ICs, and I don't need anyone's affirmation to convince me that my $38/pr was reasonably well spent. By the same token, we could all purchase our equipment, and then hunker down with our opinions kept under a blanket...but that sort of takes away from the fun of all this. Yes? If it's bothersome to discuss "accessories" in the accessories forum, then perhaps the reader can simply move on to something more interesting to them.
Sorry if I've wasted anyone's time with such a ridiculous topic.you could have left all of that out. notice i never went into one thing bolded. putting remarks like that in your responses is how things get started. i wrote what i wrote because you didn't seem truly satisfied with the fact that your cables were nice and they worked good for you. then you had to try and justify things by giving the old "but we can all learn something". i thought we did learn something initially that you were happy with the cables build and the end results. mind you that if you are satisfied and are just trying to get data and opinions from other that's fine too; and i hope you get the results you are looking for. i don't intend to sneak in anything to you like you did. i hope you do find out whatever your trying to find out.
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Post by flyhigh on Apr 10, 2011 10:29:10 GMT -5
Moving right along... I think the next time I'm in the good ole USA...I'll get a 1m set of Blue Jeans LC-1 (Belden), or my trusty LV-61S (Canare) and just have a little comparison. I've really learned to appreciate the Belden/Canare cables over the years, especially if lengthy runs are involved. It always works well. What's more, IMO the Canare connectors are incomparable, and should make even the most jaded person a bit weak in the knees. They're nice. The above cables and the Emos are priced similarly, so it'd be fun just to give it a whirl. See if there is any real difference in those cables in such short runs. Maybe...maybe not. Worst that can happen is that I wind up with a spare set of interconnects...and nobody ever died from that. Well, I guess there was that one time, but the risks seem minimal. -Fly
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Post by briank on Apr 10, 2011 13:46:53 GMT -5
The Blue Jeans LC-1 is a great cable. I still use a pair. Haven't tried the Canare. Did try the Belden 10 gauge speaker wire but didn't like it as it sounded coarse and male voices sounded congested. However, I am extremely picky and can never just plug, play, and be happy. Every cable I try is compared to others and scrutenized for hours and hours. I thing I need professional help sometimes.
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Post by NezFF on Apr 29, 2011 21:40:04 GMT -5
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Post by lpniles007 on Apr 30, 2011 17:14:10 GMT -5
I just completed my all Emo system (except for some awesome custom speaker cables by NezFF) and I found the X series digital coax cable to be harsh sounding compared to an older Audioquest I had sitting around IMHO.
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Post by jamrock on Apr 30, 2011 17:46:38 GMT -5
I have an all Emo interconnect in the 'X' Series. In fact, I just received 2 days ago, and is using a 4M X-Series HDMI cable for my laptop to the UMC-1. It perfectly transmit all data so far. Unfortunately, I can't address any 'roll off of high frequencies' since ALL my connections are either HDMI or digital optical. You can't alter binary 1's and 0's. The RCA's from the UMC-1 to the power amps do not reflect any frequency roll off to my ears.
If interconnect cables make any change in frequency response output, it is a very poorly designed cable. Get rid of it!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2011 9:59:24 GMT -5
I just completed my all Emo system (except for some awesome custom speaker cables by NezFF) and I found the X series digital coax cable to be harsh sounding compared to an older Audioquest I had sitting around IMHO. Not to incite a riot, but how can a "digital" cable sound different? If they are transmitting 1s and 0s then there really isn't an in between. The absence of any signal would cause complete audio dropouts, so the only other possibility would be capacitance in the cable altering digital state. Is that truly possible?
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Post by jmilton on May 25, 2011 10:06:53 GMT -5
I just completed my all Emo system (except for some awesome custom speaker cables by NezFF) and I found the X series digital coax cable to be harsh sounding compared to an older Audioquest I had sitting around IMHO. Not to incite a riot, but how can a "digital" cable sound different? If they are transmitting 1s and 0s then there really isn't an in between. The absence of any signal would cause complete audio dropouts, so the only other possibility would be capacitance in the cable altering digital state. Is that truly possible? Oh no!!...You invoked the "subject which must not be mentioned".
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Post by DYohn on May 25, 2011 10:12:35 GMT -5
No, it isn't.
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Post by Wideawake on May 25, 2011 12:27:46 GMT -5
I just completed my all Emo system (except for some awesome custom speaker cables by NezFF) and I found the X series digital coax cable to be harsh sounding compared to an older Audioquest I had sitting around IMHO. lpniles, have you tried the X series on cable risers? home.comcast.net/~ridgestreetaudio/CableStand.html
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