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Post by Chuck Elliot on May 14, 2013 21:00:52 GMT -5
As my equipment selection for my 2 channel system has finalized. I decided to order an equipment rack. I like the Plateau stuff so I ordered a XT-A4 which is more than big enough for this system. I’ve discovered over the years that it is much easier to plan out cable routing on paper first. All the back panel pictures are available and I drew the rack from its specification sheet. Software used was Microsoft Visio and Photoshop, but many different packages will work. One obvious thing that stood out is that all power connectors are all on the left side. This is good as I can mount a small power strip to the 2” vertical on the bottom and run all the power cords down that side. This leaves the right side for signal cables. Here’s my start:  |
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Post by yeeeha17 on May 14, 2013 21:56:40 GMT -5
I stack my xsp on top of xda so it have room to vent and it never seems to get that warm from long hours of play. I think it looks better that way also IMHO
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Post by Chuck Elliot on May 14, 2013 22:06:08 GMT -5
I stack my xsp on top of xda so it have room to vent and it never seems to get that warm from long hours of play. I think it looks better that way also IMHO Easily swappable. Does the XSP-1 get warm? Not much to generate heat in there? |
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Post by yeeeha17 on May 14, 2013 22:14:29 GMT -5
Not really but emotiva have air holes on top for a reason. Actually the only Emotiva equipment that I have the umc-1 is the only one that even gets warm fast. You should be fine if you want to keep it that way
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Post by arthurz on May 14, 2013 22:27:39 GMT -5
My XSP-1 stays pretty cool. I wouldn't worry about stacking an XDA-2 on top of it – it still has reasonable legs giving the XSP some room to breathe.
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Post by GreenKiwi on May 14, 2013 23:13:22 GMT -5
Do you have stuff coming in on both an XDA-1 and XDA-2?
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Post by Chuck Elliot on May 14, 2013 23:42:13 GMT -5
Do you have stuff coming in on both an XDA-1 and XDA-2? That's the idea! The source will be the XDA-1 when I want to run both the 2-Channel and HT systems at the same time. Party Mode! |
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 15, 2013 0:05:15 GMT -5
I love Visio, it's the only reason I still have a Windows machine, I actually designed my house with it! I always draw my layouts with Visio before buying new gear to make sure everything will work together. I think you're wise to do yours like this ahead of time, besides letting you figure out your cabling, it makes an easy plan to follow when you're actually hooking things up And I also have an XDA-2 and XSP-1 stacked like you, but you cheated (or missed it), the left & right ins and outs are reversed on the XSP-1 so you need to cross the cables between these units (this actually bugs the $#!+ out of me). I've posted this before but here's my 2 channel layout from Visio (this older drawing actually has a mistake, the subs are plugged into the main outs. I didn't notice it until I was hooking them up)  Attachments:
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Post by Chuck Elliot on May 15, 2013 7:33:49 GMT -5
As do I. I've used it since before Microsoft bought it from Shapeware. It was the first program to embed Visual Basic for Applications VBA as its macro language - even before Word and Excel. Much like you I use it to draw everything from network diagrams to garden plans. All the CAD I need. |
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Post by vinylfreak on May 15, 2013 7:43:02 GMT -5
As my equipment selection for my 2 channel system has finalized. I decided to order an equipment rack. I like the Plateau stuff so I ordered a XT-A4 which is more than big enough for this system. I’ve discovered over the years that it is much easier to plan out cable routing on paper first. All the back panel pictures are available and I drew the rack from its specification sheet. Software used was Microsoft Visio and Photoshop, but many different packages will work. One obvious thing that stood out is that all power connectors are all on the left side. This is good as I can mount a small power strip to the 2” vertical on the bottom and run all the power cords down that side. This leaves the right side for signal cables. Here’s my start: OK So I guess you guys answered my question......... The software you used to create your rack layout is called Visio?? I love they way that looks! Very cool! |
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 15, 2013 11:02:51 GMT -5
As do I. I've used it since before Microsoft bought it from Shapeware. It was the first program to embed Visual Basic for Applications VBA as its macro language - even before Word and Excel. Much like you I use it to draw everything from network diagrams to garden plans. All the CAD I need. Don't know if you remember, when MSDOS 6 came out (early 90's?) they had 'events' for the release, I went to the Sacramento community center theatre to see a closed circuit broadcast of Bill Gates and an MS engineer talking about it, and showing how to do a DOS 6 upgrade. Bill was the troublemaker and asked lots of silly questions, he also pulled the plug while the upgrade was running (oh Bill!). Anyway they gave out a 3.5" floppy disk that you ran on your PC to see if it was ready for DOS 6. On that same 3.5" disk they included the first version of Visio (still then with Shapeware). I was hooked, but it also shows what's happened to software since those days, from an 800K floppy to multiple CDs, talk about bloat. Still, great software, and yes all the CAD most people need. |
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Post by Chuck Elliot on May 15, 2013 11:17:37 GMT -5
As do I. I've used it since before Microsoft bought it from Shapeware. It was the first program to embed Visual Basic for Applications VBA as its macro language - even before Word and Excel. Much like you I use it to draw everything from network diagrams to garden plans. All the CAD I need. Don't know if you remember, when MSDOS 6 came out (early 90's?) they had 'events' for the release, I went to the Sacramento community center theatre to see a closed circuit broadcast of Bill Gates and an MS engineer talking about it, and showing how to do a DOS 6 upgrade. Bill was the troublemaker and asked lots of silly questions, he also pulled the plug while the upgrade was running (oh Bill!). Anyway they gave out a 3.5" floppy disk that you ran on your PC to see if it was ready for DOS 6. On that same 3.5" disk they included the first version of Visio (still then with Shapeware). I was hooked, but it also shows what's happened to software since those days, from an 800K floppy to multiple CDs, talk about bloat. Still, great software, and yes all the CAD most people need. Software has changed a lot since I started writing code for the PC in 1983. I worked for a company call Innovative Software developing a program called The Smart Software System. We would rewrite functions just to save a handful of bytes. These totaled up making the program faster and quicker to load. This mattered when your minimal target was an 8088 processor with 256K memory. OOP languages are filled with bloat IMO with every version of programs getting bigger and bigger. A few years back I loaded Windows 3.1 and Word 2 on a "new" PIII system just for fun. Agreed this is old school, but man Windows loaded like lightning as did Word. |
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Post by arthurz on May 15, 2013 11:29:52 GMT -5
Yeah, C++ was the performance villain for a while, but it's a brave new world now – people don't even blink at interpretation anymore. Not only that, but other than Javascript jitters, mainstream interpreters get slower all the time. Python is terrible, but Ruby probably started as a practical joke. On the other hand, the abstractions easily available now are just ridiculous, and you'll have to admit, today's software would be simply infeasible to write with the languages, libraries, and tools of 20 years ago. I'd say we're getting functionality = lg(bloat) . |
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Post by Chuck Elliot on May 15, 2013 11:54:36 GMT -5
...today's software would be simply infeasible to write with the languages, libraries, and tools of 20 years ago.... I'd have to say that I disagree, but I do know there is no going back. I too live in the world of C# and VB.Net every day. But, I don't think there's anything in C++ that I couldn't write in C. The issue with abstraction is that for a lot of today's programmers the operation of fundamental data structures is lost. Also, once you wrote a function in plain vanilla "C" you more or less had it for life. It was also much easier to transport to a dissimilar system. Try taking MS-C# to MAC-Objective C - it's not a port it's a rewrite as all the objects are different. |
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Post by arthurz on May 15, 2013 12:07:47 GMT -5
We probably agree more than you think. I shiver when I see people doing things without considering what happens to L0 cache lines . C++ vs C – sure, they're barely different, except the former makes it really easy to write bloat. However, take something like Haskell, Erlang or Scala and you're orders of magnitude more productive. Then, of course, there's the super old Common Lisp, which was easily as productive and decades ahead of the competition. On the client side, the comparison between old vs. new is even more stunning. Think about the UI "toolkit" offered in Windows 3. I think the most complex abstraction on tap was the menu bar . Agreed about portability, but that's the price we pay for the power inherent in the new frameworks and richer abstractions. Your C abstractions may have been for life, but let's say you implemented a collection and now you're integrating with someone else's collection. How do you add the two? It's crazy to think people didn't even use the same string abstractions. During my days at Microsoft I had the displeasure of having to deal with Powerpoint code for a little while. I swear, without exaggeration, there were TENS of distinct string classes in that project at the time (you _can_ blame this on C++...). Powerpoint offered an interesting lesson on the unintended side effects of C++ too – at one point there was a MASSIVE improvement in the startup time when all static initializers were precompiled (using a custom tool). |
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Post by hemster on May 15, 2013 12:19:08 GMT -5
LISP and Prolog were light years ahead. Been into software for a very long time.
But I digress... let's try to keep on topic here. If people want to discuss s/w, maybe open a new thread...
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Post by hemster on May 15, 2013 12:20:06 GMT -5
BTW, I also use Visio for all my planning. |
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Post by Chuck Elliot on May 15, 2013 12:34:35 GMT -5
...let's try to keep on topic here..... Sorry I guess I sort of hijacked my own thread! |
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Post by vinylfreak on May 15, 2013 12:43:57 GMT -5
Thanks
Just downloaded Visio.
Gonna try to learn how to use it.
Sorry didn't mean to derail this thread. ;D
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Post by AudioHTIT on May 15, 2013 13:41:50 GMT -5
I also didn't mean to compare the power and functionality of the early versions of Visio with the latest releases (I'm using 2010). There are so many features that make the job easier and more attractive (and some I've never used). Yes, it's bigger, but it's worth it.
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